chaddyrovers Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Oldgregg86 said: iF. Big if. We have lost to Doncaster, and Wimbledon at home already plus defeats to Oldham and Southend. Are you confident we will take 6 points from Blackpool and Fleetwood. I'm not. If I was then I would still be backing him All depends whether the players actually turn up and put in a proper shift and played to their ability and stop hiding. Players need to work hard and remember what the club badge stand for.
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chaddyrovers Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, davulsukur said: He couldn’t get us to “our level” against Oldham or AFC Wimbledon. It’s actually a miracle he’s not out of a job this very second. not my view. I wouldn't be sacking him after 11 games.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: we are 3 points of the playoffs with 2 games in hand. and we haven't played to our level yet. I have not reach panic stations yet How do you know this isn't our level ? If you had have witnessed today's " performance " you'd be wondering like I am.
arbitro Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 We have scored 15 goals so far. Mowbrays naive comment of 80 goals to get promoted looks a long, long way off tonight.
Oldgregg86 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: All depends whether the players actually turn up and put in a proper shift and played to their ability and stop hiding. Players need to work hard and remember what the club badge stand for. True . The question is .... Is TM capable of doing that. So far all the signs point to he cant
roversfan99 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: All depends whether the players actually turn up and put in a proper shift and played to their ability and stop hiding. Players need to work hard and remember what the club badge stand for. Remind me who bought half of them and who is in charge of motivating them?
blueboy3333 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Bluebarley said: Bedwetters out in force, chill for FFS. Have you just got up?
Mercer Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: All depends whether the players actually turn up and put in a proper shift and played to their ability and stop hiding. Players need to work hard and remember what the club badge stand for. Don't think Sir Alex, Jose or Conte needed to worry about the players not turning up. Your post says it all - Mowbray commands little respect, there is no fear. Holiday camp scenario.
chaddyrovers Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, roversfan99 said: Remind me who bought half of them and who is in charge of motivating them? why should players need motivating? they get paid hell of a lot more than the average person to do a job we would love to do for that amount of money. Playing for the club and fans should mean their play to their ability and give 100% whether they are having a good game or bad game. Its time these players step up and stop hiding. I would love to see these to a normal job like working in warehouse environment and doing a proper job! do you need motivating in your job? I don't I just go in and do my job to the best of my ability
Hasta Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bluebarley said: Bedwetters out in force, chill for FFS. I take it you didn't go?
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Bluebarley said: Bedwetters out in force, chill for FFS. All that tells me is that you weren't there today.
roversfan99 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: why should players need motivating? they get paid hell of a lot more than the average person to do a job we would love to do for that amount of money. Playing for the club and fans should mean their play to their ability and give 100% whether they are having a good game or bad game. Its time these players step up and stop hiding. I would love to see these to a normal job like working in warehouse environment and doing a proper job! do you need motivating in your job? I don't I just go in and do my job to the best of my ability First thing you notice in a side managed by an under par manager is a drop in motivation. That said, a lack of tactical plan is the main thing.
Skiptonrover Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Hasta said: I take it you didn't go? No mate family bereavement. Back to football was it a bad performance?
Hasta Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Bluebarley said: No mate family bereavement. Back to football was it a bad performance? Yep. The kind of performance where you don't simply walk away and 'chill'.
chaddyrovers Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, roversfan99 said: First thing you notice in a side managed by an under par manager is a drop in motivation. That said, a lack of tactical plan is the main thing. so the players give up and that acceptable is it? its time these players realised that they are playing a club and the fans and their job paid more than the average fan earns. its about time players stop hiding and grow a set of balls and start performing. nothing should the players from giving 100% all the time. also notice you didn't answer my question to you but as per usual you just ignore it
Hasta Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: so the players give up and that acceptable is it? its time these players realised that they are playing a club and the fans and their job paid more than the average fan earns. its about time players stop hiding and grow a set of balls and start performing. nothing should the players from giving 100% all the time. also notice you didn't answer my question to you but as per usual you just ignore it I really don't see players giving up Chaddy. I just see average ones with no game plan. However, if they still really aren't giving 100%, what are the options? Either put a load of kids in or sack Mowbray.
Skiptonrover Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Hasta said: Yep. The kind of performance where you don't simply walk away and 'chill'. Ok don't chill get upset about it that will change things won't it?
roversfan99 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: so the players give up and that acceptable is it? its time these players realised that they are playing a club and the fans and their job paid more than the average fan earns. its about time players stop hiding and grow a set of balls and start performing. nothing should the players from giving 100% all the time. also notice you didn't answer my question to you but as per usual you just ignore it Did I say that. For me the biggest problem is his tactical incompetence, not a lack of effort, its a lack of ideas. And half of the squad are his signings, why is he signing so many players with bad attitudes if you think thats what they have? If its the players fault only, why not keep Coyle? What question?
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: why should players need motivating? they get paid hell of a lot more than the average person to do a job we would love to do for that amount of money. Playing for the club and fans should mean their play to their ability and give 100% whether they are having a good game or bad game. Its time these players step up and stop hiding. I would love to see these to a normal job like working in warehouse environment and doing a proper job! do you need motivating in your job? I don't I just go in and do my job to the best of my ability Yeah there will be grafters like you that put a shift in. There'll be other people that will be busting a gut to get promoted etc. Then there'll be the ones on their mobile phone when the gaffer isn't watching, the ones that are stood by the clocking machine at 4-25, ready and waiting to bail out. After that you get the wasters who just do the minimum to avoid getting fired. If your management is lax before you know it the wasters have demotivated the grafters. Well football teams are just the same, even pro teams. That's our problem, we haven't got enough grafters like you Chaddy and we've got too many wasters.
Hasta Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Bluebarley said: Ok don't chill get upset about it that will change things won't it? Unfortunately not.
LDRover Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: why should players need motivating? they get paid hell of a lot more than the average person to do a job we would love to do for that amount of money. You've answered your own question there Chaddy. If you think back to when Souness took over, he cracked a few heads and turned things around quickly and that was down to attitude changes rather than any fancy tactics. Same needed now, someone to instil a bit of fear, a Roy Keane type.
Backroom Tom Posted October 14, 2017 Backroom Posted October 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: not my view. I wouldn't be sacking him after 11 games. Didn't you advocate sacking De Boer after 4-5 games?
Skiptonrover Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hasta said: Unfortunately not. Them 2 words pretty much reinforce what I originally started with don't they not?
chaddyrovers Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Did I say that. For me the biggest problem is his tactical incompetence, not a lack of effort, its a lack of ideas. And half of the squad are his signings, why is he signing so many players with bad attitudes if you think thats what they have? If its the players fault only, why not keep Coyle? What question? yes it sounded like it. look at the players ive mention with bad attitude. players like Ward, Williams and Graham for a start. Coyle proved it by results that he wasn't good enough. But I bet the players will tell you that Coyle was a good manager and good to work with. I say this after listening to Nigel Reo Coker comments on talksport this week. My 1st reply had a question so look back and stop expecting me to do the work for you. it was a simple question 3 minutes ago, Hasta said: I really don't see players giving up Chaddy. I just see average ones with no game plan. However, if they still really aren't giving 100%, what are the options? Either put a load of kids in or sack Mowbray. I would put a couple of kids in. Bruce did it and results turned around and now are 7th. when he did that they well in bottom 6
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