J*B Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't like to pick at any player unfairly, but I did some research on Elliot Ward the other day. If ever there was a definition of a journey man , it would not be him, as journeymen usually play for their clubs. His entire career is pretty much him signing for clubs ,mostly on loan, and then not playing for them. It would make you wonder why we actually signed him? At 33 now his best days are behind him, and that is extremely worrying. I would definitely look at getting him out somehow. Would others agree? Never knew he was 33. What a deceiving hair do. Explains why he's so slow.
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ChrisPriceBaldSpot Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't like to pick at any player unfairly, but I did some research on Elliot Ward the other day. If ever there was a definition of a journey man , it would not be him, as journeymen usually play for their clubs. His entire career is pretty much him signing for clubs ,mostly on loan, and then not playing for them. It would make you wonder why we actually signed him? At 33 now his best days are behind him, and that is extremely worrying. I would definitely look at getting him out somehow. Would others agree? 20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't like to pick at any player unfairly, but I did some research on Elliot Ward the other day. If ever there was a definition of a journey man , it would not be him, as journeymen usually play for their clubs. His entire career is pretty much him signing for clubs ,mostly on loan, and then not playing for them. It would make you wonder why we actually signed him? At 33 now his best days are behind him, and that is extremely worrying. I would definitely look at getting him out somehow. Would others agree? At the time of signing him both Lowe and Evans were fit and the medical team were left twiddling their thumbs. We need a New Colin Hendry, at this rate I would settle for the Colin of today though!
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 17, 2017 Author Moderation Lead Posted August 17, 2017 A defender that can and more importantly likes to defend would be nice tbh. I'm sick of us signing/settling for players who can 'do a job' in a position, just sign some specialists for goodness' sake!
tomphil Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Ward was a poor signing by Lambert but he was probably in the category of cheap back up although no doubt they got him in on a good contract that doesn't match his ability. Jobs for the boys has been a recurring theme under Vs just too easy for managers and their agent pals to foist a mate or 3 onto good wages at Rovers. I know it happens but not to the extent it keeps happening here. In the case of Ward though his wages can't be astronomical otherwise they'd have had him through the door but then again who would want him ? He's a big ponce.
tomphil Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said: At the time of signing him both Lowe and Evans were fit and the medical team were left twiddling their thumbs. We need a New Colin Hendry, at this rate I would settle for the Colin of today though! They don't come along like that anymore though sadly the game doesn't allow his type to flourish they get it drilled out of them, not allowed to breath on your opponents. Instead you get a generation of ball watching defenders who'll wait until it's in their space before clearing it rather than the that ball is mine, me first mentality.
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, tomphil said: They don't come along like that anymore though sadly the game doesn't allow his type to flourish they get it drilled out of them, not allowed to breath on your opponents. Instead you get a generation of ball watching defenders who'll wait until it's in their space before clearing it rather the that ball is mine, me first mentality. Yep. Leicester won the Premiership with 2 old fashioned centre halves who just clicked that season, coincidence?
ruggles1995 Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Lenihan not in the squad again..... zzzz getting boring now, hes not exactly the worlds best defender. Cash in take 1.5-2mill then rebuild the back 4 with the cash. Or at minimum 2 new CBs.
tomphil Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said: Lenihan not in the squad again..... zzzz getting boring now, hes not exactly the worlds best defender. Cash in take 1.5-2mill then rebuild the back 4 with the cash. Or at minimum 2 new CBs. If he's going it'll be stage managed so it's a late one on deadline day and that cash then covers what's been spent. It's the Venky way and it'll happen if not him then someone else I can't see how else a club with our financial probs could suddenly go out and spend without some guarantor of it being covered. That being the case it may well open up for Wharton to get a look in once a wage space has been made, lots of rumours about his contract situation and wouldn't be surprised if one of the usual suspects has that stitched up good and proper hence why he's not getting on for league games yet.
rhodie Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said: Lenihan not in the squad again..... zzzz getting boring now, hes not exactly the worlds best defender. Cash in take 1.5-2mill then rebuild the back 4 with the cash. Or at minimum 2 new CBs. Sure I read on here somewhere he has damaged his metatarsal, that would take a good while to heal if he has.
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 30 minutes ago, rhodie said: Sure I read on here somewhere he has damaged his metatarsal, that would take a good while to heal if he has. He is jogging but can't sprint. All sounds like he is injured. No conspiracy
JAL Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't like to pick at any player unfairly, but I did some research on Elliot Ward the other day. If ever there was a definition of a journey man , it would not be him, as journeymen usually play for their clubs. His entire career is pretty much him signing for clubs ,mostly on loan, and then not playing for them. It would make you wonder why we actually signed him? At 33 now his best days are behind him, and that is extremely worrying. I would definitely look at getting him out somehow. Would others agree? Absolutely thought he'd actually left last season then surprised to see he's still here.
AllRoverAsia Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 No conspiracy re Lenihan? I'm ok to watch the clock tick down and see what happens. Not even suggesting anything will. PssngMSL
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: No conspiracy re Lenihan? I'm ok to watch the clock tick down and see what happens. Not even suggesting anything will. PssngMSL Will you come out and say you were wrong if he doesn't leave?
Stuart Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 2 hours ago, tomphil said: If he's going it'll be stage managed so it's a late one on deadline day and that cash then covers what's been spent. It's the Venky way and it'll happen if not him then someone else I can't see how else a club with our financial probs could suddenly go out and spend without some guarantor of it being covered. That being the case it may well open up for Wharton to get a look in once a wage space has been made, lots of rumours about his contract situation and wouldn't be surprised if one of the usual suspects has that stitched up good and proper hence why he's not getting on for league games yet. You realise when this happens it'll be called hindsight. For now, stop being so negative!
Stuart Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Will you come out and say you were wrong if he doesn't leave? I will. Will you if he does?
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Norwich are signing that Raggett guy from Lincoln city who was mentioned here the other day. Loaning him back to LC
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, Stuart said: I will. Will you if he does? I will if he goes for less than 4.5 million.
JHRover Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I will if he goes for less than 4.5 million. What if its 'undisclosed'?
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, JHRover said: What if its 'undisclosed'? I was expecting that question I imagine they will have to be very transparent about the fee after all the talk of only selling if a valuation is met
donnermeat Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I was expecting that question I imagine they will have to be very transparent about the fee after all the talk of only selling if a valuation is met So it will likely be undisclosed then.
JHRover Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I was expecting that question I imagine they will have to be very transparent about the fee after all the talk of only selling if a valuation is met Transparency and Blackburn Rovers aren't two things that work well together. Expect Cheston to spoonfeed a few dollops of BS to the Telegraph who will then print 'believed to be in the region of £x' stuff aimed to try and convince supporters a good deal has been had for the club coffers and that we simply had to sell him for such a price. Like with Marshall when they tried to con us into thinking we got millions for him and it was a good deal for Rovers when we got nothing of the sort.
Neil Weaver Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 39 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I imagine they will have to be very transparent about the fee after all the talk of only selling if a valuation is met Let your imagination run riot then
Boaty Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, Neil Weaver said: Let your imagination run riot then If I let my imagination run riot, as I do, occasionally, I can guarantee an average footballers transfer fee won't be involved.
ChrisPriceBaldSpot Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: He is jogging but can't sprint. All sounds like he is injured. No conspiracy Maybe Mulgrew, Ward and Whittingham have the same injury then!
47er Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 4.5 million? Really? If it didn't go into Balaji's back pocket I'd take that.
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