[Archived] Transfers Part 3

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

He's said (I think) he wants four players. So one will be a keeper, another a forward. So we can afford both, even if they're on loan.

The worry is players head gets turned and we have to sell a couple because they ask to leave. Then we're in trouble because we'll need to bring in 6 or 7. Not easy at this stage. Mowbray, like Coyle last season, is practically having to put  a new team together in just a couple of months.

The last time we got out of this league we did it on a solid defence. Most teams get promotion that way. Not on conceding 2 every game and hoping to score 3. A quality keeper and a strong defence is vital.

 

I know a few of us keep harking back to Gordon Lee in the summer of '74, but he brought in several new signings in a few weeks to build a promotion team.

Hawkins, Beamish, Oates and Hilton spring to mind, but I think there were a few more as well.

[blueboy3333]

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/connor-ripleys-dad-confirms-could-254717

Hopefully Stuart, father and agent of Connor, is telling his son to get down to Ewood.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, MGPensioner said:

alright then, where were we lacking against Carlise that we couldn't / didn't win ?

Next week against better opponents that result will be unacceptable.

 

so far it is 14 out and 6 in. net minus 8. expecting 2 more out.

worried tbh !

We conceded three because our defence was appalling by all accounts. We needed to score 4 to win. Not a realistic way to mount a promotion challenge needing to score so many goals every week.

I'm worried too, because if we lose a Centre-Half or Raya to injury we'll be stuffed by Christmas. Likewise, if we lose Danny Graham we're in trouble. Samuel isn't proven, although he could turn out to be very good.

We still need players in key areas.

[JacknOry]

30 minutes ago, MGPensioner said:

promotion chances? ?

 

I doubt we can afford both. I mean the striker needs to be proven if we are to have any chance and will therefore cost £££. Unveiling blueboy (undisclosed) or MGP (free) will not get us promoted.

 

In the old days didn't they manage with 2 keepers?

They also didn't bother / need a GK on the bench.

You win games by putting the ball in the net pal. We need to win EVERY game.

We all know we need 1 more striker at least but a backup keeper is now a must as well.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, MGPensioner said:

we shouldn't be wasting money on a keeper to warm the bench.

Fisher can do that.

Graham is bound to get injured a few times during the season and we ain't got any more quality strikers.

If we intend "smashing" the league title we will need goals goals goals.

Proven Striker please 

A keeper is a must and we don't want to have Fisher coming on against Southend if Raya did get injury.

we need 4 players in

 

1 hour ago, MGPensioner said:

promotion chances? ?

 

I doubt we can afford both. I mean the striker needs to be proven if we are to have any chance and will therefore cost £££. Unveiling blueboy (undisclosed) or MGP (free) will not get us promoted.

 

In the old days didn't they manage with 2 keepers?

They also didn't bother / need a GK on the bench.

You win games by putting the ball in the net pal. We need to win EVERY game.

you doubt we can afford? why? we spend 1.5 million so far this summer.

You get promotion by keeping clean sheets and scoring goals. Both must be right to get promote from this league 

54 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

He's said (I think) he wants four players. So one will be a keeper, another a forward. So we can afford both, even if they're on loan.

The worry is players head gets turned and we have to sell a couple because they ask to leave. Then we're in trouble because we'll need to bring in 6 or 7. Not easy at this stage. Mowbray, like Coyle last season, is practically having to put  a new team together in just a couple of months.

The last time we got out of this league we did it on a solid defence. Most teams get promotion that way. Not on conceding 2 every game and hoping to score 3. A quality keeper and a strong defence is vital.

 

think he said 3 or 4 players he wants to sign.

keep saying we don't need to sell either and supposedly told Mulgrew and Lenihan they are staying and neither asked to leave.

41 minutes ago, MGPensioner said:

alright then, where were we lacking against Carlisle that we couldn't / didn't win ?

Next week against better opponents that result will be unacceptable.

 

so far it is 14 out and 6 in. net minus 8. expecting 2 more out.

worried tbh !

the Carlisle game was friendly and did we put out strongest team? no we didn't. we were missing 4 players due to minor injuries and in Whiitingham case he didn't start. Expect Mulgrew, Gladwin, Lenihan and Whittingham to all start on Saturday/

14 out? most of them needed to go who were out of contract apart from Mahoney and possible Guthrie I wouldn't have keep any of them. From the loan players only Gallagher performed all season, Joao and Emnes had their moments but far too inconsistent for me. Hendrie was a waste of a loan and Hoban was injured alot

worried? about what?

41 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/connor-ripleys-dad-confirms-could-254717

Hopefully Stuart, father and agent of Connor, is telling his son to get down to Ewood.

Lets hope he does come here and challenges Raya for the number 1 jersey. If he doesn't I would go for Turnbull

[Waggy76]

1 minute ago, MGPensioner said:

apparently every employee has been given a letter last week to volunteer for redundancy.

KPMG report still to surface by actions.

lots of reasons to be worried here in the real world Chris

oh and the squad 

Does that include Cheston and Suhail ?

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, Waggy76 said:

Does that include Cheston and Suhail ?

Quite! 

[darrenrover]

I can't understand the clamour for an additional keeper given our current plight. If Raya picks up an injury, we'll need to loan a keeper.

If it's a case of priorities as it surely must be, surely we need a brute of a centre half and a proven prolific goalscorer at this level, first and foremost.

[Parsonblue]

1 hour ago, blueboy3333 said:

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/connor-ripleys-dad-confirms-could-254717

Hopefully Stuart, father and agent of Connor, is telling his son to get down to Ewood.

Really can't see him coming here to sit on our bench.  From what I've seen of him he would start behind Raya who is really starting to look the part.

[Oldgregg86]

On 7/29/2017 at 13:54, roverstdt said:

To be honest I am happy with the defence I would only add if we sold someone as I would like to see Wharton giving a go. 

You can't be giving players " a go". He has to be up to scratch to play week in week out with the confidence that if someone is injured he can step up to the plate otherwise we need a body in. I'd love wharton to be that guy and personally think he is able but this isnt the checkatrade trophy . We can't just give them a go. Mowbray has to decide if he is good enough or not and live and die by his choice 

[Oldgregg86]

1 hour ago, MGPensioner said:

promotion chances? ?

 

I doubt we can afford both. I mean the striker needs to be proven if we are to have any chance and will therefore cost £££. Unveiling blueboy (undisclosed) or MGP (free) will not get us promoted.

 

In the old days didn't they manage with 2 keepers?

They also didn't bother / need a GK on the bench.

You win games by putting the ball in the net pal. We need to win EVERY game.

This is the most niave post I have ever read. The game has moved on since you could play with a broken neck pal

[blueboy3333]

18 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

I can't understand the clamour for an additional keeper given our current plight. If Raya picks up an injury, we'll need to loan a keeper.

If it's a case of priorities as it surely must be, surely we need a brute of a centre half and a proven prolific goalscorer at this level, first and foremost.

We can't loan a keeper once the window shuts.

[Mike E]

Priorities imo:

Hard nut centre back

Striker (Would LOVE Bogle!)

Backup experienced goalkeeper

Another extra centre back (although I personally believe Wharton will be good enough to be a solid 3rd choice, at least, before long).

[blueboy3333]

14 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

Really can't see him coming here to sit on our bench.  From what I've seen of him he would start behind Raya who is really starting to look the part.

Never seen him play. He could be better than Raya.

[darrenrover]

11 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

We can't loan a keeper once the window shuts.

Has the rule changed regarding goalkeepers? I understand that the loan situation generally has changed to coincide with the transfer window but thought exceptions would be made for goalkeepers with it being a specialist position.

Ridiculous if so. Perhaps we need to put Evans through his paces with the gloves on (Garneresque).

[Baz]

Id imagine Ripley is unlikely to go on loan, as his contract is up at the end of next season. Boro will probably rather take cash now, than lose him for nothing in 12 months.

[pick32]

Wouldn't like Ripley if it's going to hamper  Raya first team opportunities, already got a young 1st choice keeper sign and old mentor to be his number 2 that doesn't command a fee either.

[JAL]

1 hour ago, Oldgregg86 said:

This is the most niave post I have ever read. The game has moved on since you could play with a broken neck pal

What's nave about the post as it seems you've attracted the care in the community band.

[Baz]

39 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Wouldn't like Ripley if it's going to hamper  Raya first team opportunities, already got a young 1st choice keeper sign and old mentor to be his number 2 that doesn't command a fee either.

I don't care if we hamper Rayas development, I just want the best keeper available to be signed and played. I think back to when we had John Filan, and how everyone thought he was excellent, and the difference Brad made when we brought him in. If Raya is good enough he will play, if not, then he won't (disclaimer: at most clubs anyway).

Rayas is a good shot stopper, but he's still only young for a goalkeeper, and I wonder if his good performances are in some way a reflection of how poor Steele was.

 

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, darrenrover said:

Has the rule changed regarding goalkeepers? I understand that the loan situation generally has changed to coincide with the transfer window but thought exceptions would be made for goalkeepers with it being a specialist position.

Ridiculous if so. Perhaps we need to put Evans through his paces with the gloves on (Garneresque).

7 day loans allowed...i.e. very emergency & very short term

[Oldgregg86]

50 minutes ago, MGPensioner said:

no it hasn't 

11 men vs 11 men

on the grass

it's a simple game

11 v 11 over 46 games . 11 players that can get injured, suspended, lose form etc. 

[Oldgregg86]

19 minutes ago, JAL said:

What's nave about the post as it seems you've attracted the care in the community band.

What's niave about not putting a keeper on the bench. You need an agent jal. You would make a killing on the stand up circuit

[sjsbrfc]

48 minutes ago, MGPensioner said:

no it hasn't 

11 men vs 11 men

on the grass

it's a simple game

Oh, those Brazilians, you know? Circa 1970? Broke the mould. Theory out the window. Free expression of football. Uncategorisable. Is that a word? It is now! You know? Far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Rush goalie. Two at the back, three in the middle, four up front, one's gone home for his tea. Beans on toast? Possibly, don't quote me on that. Marvellous

[RoversClitheroe]

Who was it on here that was serious in saying we should sign Joe Hart on loan? ??

[Husky]

On 29/07/2017 at 16:37, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray has said we don't need to sell and have no reason  to believe he lying to the fans?  do you?

also someone posted on here that Mowbray has told Mulgrew he staying and he accept it and don't asked to leave.

Have the board given him their backing too? As that endorsement is always 100% sure isn't it? Even at well run clubs.