Championship 2017/18

[Parsonblue]

36 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Leeds want Paul Heckingbottom to be their new manager and are hoping to reach a deal later today according to their local paper. Barnsley on a shocking run so a bit of a surprise.

Barnsley have just given Heckingbottom a new deal - within the last few days - so Leeds are going to have to pay.  Leeds are the classic example of a club that continually changes managers and achieves nothing as a result - other than large compensation packages that they have to pay out to managers and coaching staff.

[JHRover]

Just now, Parsonblue said:

Barnsley have just given Heckingbottom a new deal - within the last few days - so Leeds are going to have to pay.  Leeds are the classic example of a club that continually changes managers and achieves nothing as a result - other than large compensation packages that they have to pay out to managers and coaching staff.

Apparently he might have a release clause in his new deal which enables him to leave for a smaller amount of compensation. Not sure what all the fuss is about with Heckingbottom as he was heavily linked to Sunderland and Forest earlier this season despite Barnsley struggling. I suppose he's done well to keep them up considering their relatively limited resources but he's hardly set the world alight. Leeds fans don't seem particularly happy at the prospect but then again they probably expect a world class manager turning up.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Leeds want Paul Heckingbottom to be their new manager and are hoping to reach a deal later today according to their local paper. Barnsley on a shocking run so a bit of a surprise.

Very good choice imo. 

24 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Apparently he might have a release clause in his new deal which enables him to leave for a smaller amount of compensation. Not sure what all the fuss is about with Heckingbottom as he was heavily linked to Sunderland and Forest earlier this season despite Barnsley struggling. I suppose he's done well to keep them up considering their relatively limited resources but he's hardly set the world alight. Leeds fans don't seem particularly happy at the prospect but then again they probably expect a world class manager turning up.

Done a great job keeping them up last season and plays good football. 

Plus he acheived promotion with Barnsley when he was caretaker after Johnson walk out for Bristol City job. 

Leeds fans need to stop thinking their big club cos they arent. Still obsess with Don Revie years there. Move on ffs. But Leeds need to give a manager proper time to get them promotion instead of a quick fix approach

I believe he turn the Sunderland job down after Grayson left. 

[Rover_Shaun]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very good choice imo.

Its an odd choice given his career to date. Though you were willing to back Coyle in the face of all sense, reason and evidence so it stands to reason ??

Edited February 5, 2018 by Rover_Shaun

[jim mk2]

3 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Barnsley have just given Heckingbottom a new deal - within the last few days - so Leeds are going to have to pay.  Leeds are the classic example of a club that continually changes managers and achieves nothing as a result - other than large compensation packages that they have to pay out to managers and coaching staff.

 

The flip side of that is Watford who changed their manager 4 (yes 4) times in their promotion season to the Premier League and have continued to change managers ever since while cementing their place in the top league. 

[roversfan99]

Whereas Stoke recently sacked Hughes after it went stale, too much stability.

[Butty]

4 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

Bristol City looked like a team who have over achieved and are now hitting the wall ! 

There are quite a few  poor teams in the Championship , if it hadnt been for Redknapp and Huddersfield shenanigans , we would still be there only just mind !

Very poor league this season I agree. 

[DE.]

5 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Barnsley have just given Heckingbottom a new deal - within the last few days - so Leeds are going to have to pay.  Leeds are the classic example of a club that continually changes managers and achieves nothing as a result - other than large compensation packages that they have to pay out to managers and coaching staff.

It's working pretty well for Watford though. The big difference being they've set their club up with frequent managerial changes in mind, and considering the nature of football these days you could say they're well ahead of the curve.

[JHRover]

Swansea and Southampton are slightly less extreme variations on Watford. All 3 have the ability to change 'head coach' frequently and yet manage to survive on it. Its not a model I'd like us to follow with a revolving door of foreigners but can't really criticise them too much as it pays off. I don't think its good for the game in the long term but it has and done the job for them. Chelsea another lot who manage to carry on being successful under frequent managerial changes.

Leeds and Forest have been two of the worst in the Championship at working their way through a range of managers in succession, seemingly confusing themselves with it all, yet the reality is that they've managed to stay in the Championship through it whereas our chopping and changing and then sticking with a wrong un in Coyle for too long ultimately consigned us to the 3rd division. If we'd have been a bit more trigger happy last season and given Coyle the boot when it was obviously not working then we might have survived, instead we left it until late February when any manager would struggle against such limited time to keep any club up.

Edited February 5, 2018 by JHRover

[jim mk2]

 

You have to hand it to Watford - the people running that club must have so many contacts around Europe with their fingers on the pulses of the best up and coming coaches. How they managed to get out of the Championship with 4 coaches in one season defies belief really. Southampton were in League One about 5 years ago so it shows what can be achieved with good people running the club. Swansea are another well run club. For those who remember the 1960s and 70s the likes of Watford, Brighton, Swansea, Bournemouth  were all 3rd or 4th division clubs - the idea that that they would ever be in the equivalent of the old first division would have been inconceivable. . 

[DE.]

It's no coincidence that the degradation of the club's structure - from the boardroom to everything surrounding it - coincided with our plummet from the PL to our current position. Managers have come and gone but very few of them have been able to successfully work with the skeleton structure we have in place. Bowyer nearly made it work but once the funding stopped it was game over. Mowbray is doing an OK job at present, but when you're able to buy the best players in the division your team is going to be competitive. We won't be able to do the same if we get promoted unless Venky's pump in significantly more money. 

I remember how dismissive certain people on here were when the likes of Williams and Finn left. Losing those kinds of people was just as if not more damaging than sacking Sam Allardyce. Once we had Agnew, Babu, Shaw, etc running the show it was curtains for us as a club with any serious ambitions. We're not really any better off in that department now, so once funds dry up I imagine we will begin to struggle again. 

[Butty]

The Birmingham City board is prepared for a substantial increase in losses on the Hong Kong stock exchange following Harry Redknapp's spending spree as manager in summer 2017. (Birmingham Live)

Just saw this on the BBC gossip column, and if ever there was a sentence to sum up Dodgy Arry this would be up there  This video can never be forgotten either.. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk

[Tom]

Joao and Rhodes up front tonight for Wednesday and Joao has scored already

Having seen both of them I think that could be a really handy partnership 

[Bigdoggsteel]

15 hours ago, Tom said:

Joao and Rhodes up front tonight for Wednesday and Joao has scored already

Having seen both of them I think that could be a really handy partnership 

Interesting alright, both bring different strengths and questions for defenders. May be a good one  

[chaddyrovers]

The #Chairboys have rejected an approach from a Championship club to speak to Gareth Ainsworth in relation to their managerial vacancy: https://t.co/KUXd9tnQue

Must be Barnsley job

[Tom]

Like to see Ainsworth in a bigger job; fancied him at Ewood a couple of times when we've had the vacancy.

[JHRover]

Sounds like Ainsworth, Jack Ross and Karl Robinson have all rejected the opportunity at Barnsley. That's quite a grim looking list for a side struggling in the Championship but with supposed rich new foreign owners. Think they have to be favourites for relegation unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat with the appointment.

[Admiral Nelsen]

55 minutes ago, Tom said:

Like to see Ainsworth in a bigger job; fancied him at Ewood a couple of times when we've had the vacancy.

He would've been top of my list by a million miles if Tony had walked in the summer. Working wonders on a small budget & still refers to Rovers as 'we' on the odd occasion you get him on the radio.

Magnificent hair too.

[JHRover]

https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2018/february/jose-morais/

Barnsley appoint Jose Morais as manager.

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2018/february/jose-morais/

Barnsley appoint Jose Morais as manager.

No surprise there. 

No experience in the championship. Enjoy it! Seem like they wanted a coach not experience manager

[had.e.nuff]

19 minutes ago, JHRover said:

https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2018/february/jose-morais/

Barnsley appoint Jose Morais as manager.

It looks like he changes his job more than he changes his socks

[Tom]

1 hour ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

He would've been top of my list by a million miles if Tony had walked in the summer. Working wonders on a small budget & still refers to Rovers as 'we' on the odd occasion you get him on the radio.

Magnificent hair too.

100% with you on the hair 

[JHRover]

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No surprise there. 

No experience in the championship. Enjoy it! Seem like they wanted a coach not experience manager

Chinese owners appoint Portuguese head coach.

Might be trying to emulate their compatriots at Wolves where it has worked well or possibly something more sinister as the 'network' grows in English football.

[LDRover]

2 hours ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

He would've been top of my list by a million miles if Tony had walked in the summer. Working wonders on a small budget & still refers to Rovers as 'we' on the odd occasion you get him on the radio.

Magnificent hair too.

Yes, he's premier league when it comes to his hair.

[arbitro]

2 hours ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

He would've been top of my list by a million miles if Tony had walked in the summer. Working wonders on a small budget & still refers to Rovers as 'we' on the odd occasion you get him on the radio.

Magnificent hair too.

I spoke to Gareth immediately after the Brentford game and he told me he didn't even get an interview when Coil got the job.