Mercer Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Oh dear. Hope this isn't bad. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-vs-malta-live-score-11108976
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davulsukur Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Absolutely the worst news we could have had
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Surely out for the weekend. He should just retire from that international football craic on focus on his captaining duties
G Somerset Rover Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, Mercer said: Oh dear. Hope this isn't bad. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-vs-malta-live-score-11108976 He was certain to leave in the summer according to you Mercer, so any minutes we get out of him is a bonus...
JacknOry Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 what a surprise. and i was told we didn't need anymore cbs. This random we brought in better be good.
Backroom DE. Posted September 4, 2017 Backroom Posted September 4, 2017 Shocked he lasted this long in all honesty.
Crimpshrine Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 This somehow became inevitable when the news broke about Lenihan's injury. Not only the captain and best defender but one of our few regular goal scorers. Bad news indeed
skous18 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 we are playing Rochdale , Scunthorpe and Wimbledon next if Wharton and Platt cant step up now, whats the point of having them
Mercer Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 Let's hope it's not another metatarsal. Always ominous when the boot is off.
bboy Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Who we left with Ward, Wharton, new guy, Williams Platt ??? Hopefully can do a short term job in this poor league. Brightside is it may be a while until we play 3 at the back again
JHRover Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Sadly predictable and frankly outrageous that we're in this position after 4 games. We all knew Mulgrew and Ward would sustain injuries before January and with Lenihan out since Southend this new lad from MK had better be ready. I agree though, the calibre of opposition coming up means our £3 million per year academy needs to come good.
Butty Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 It's okay though because according too some on here we have 6 players who can play Centre half . Don't have faith in any of those supposed centre backs other than the two injured ones in Lenihan and Mulgrew. Whoever comes in will hopefully prove me wrong but not good too be in this situation.
philipl Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Came on here hoping against hope that this injury is not as bad as it looks.
AllRoverAsia Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 7 hours ago, skous18 said: we are playing Rochdale , Scunthorpe and Wimbledon next if Wharton and Platt cant step up now, whats the point of having them Wage bill turnover % shares
AllRoverAsia Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Mercer said: Let's hope it's not another metatarsal. Always ominous when the boot is off. We will know if it is in a month or so
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Butty said: It's okay though because according too some on here we have 6 players who can play Centre half . Don't have faith in any of those supposed centre backs other than the two injured ones in Lenihan and Mulgrew. Whoever comes in will hopefully prove me wrong but not good too be in this situation. Yes very easy to have 6 first choice centre halves... And to keep them all happy... You can just sign players in case someone gets injured. In that case we would have 8 centre halves. People on here on one hand are giving out that we signed Harper because he is taking the place of our own youth, on the the other hand then they are saying they don't want Wharton or Platt to start. People seem to just find their angle to complain, even if it totally contradicts what they are saying in another thread
Dreams of 1995 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Yes very easy to have 6 first choice centre halves... And to keep them all happy... You can just sign players in case someone gets injured. In that case we would have 8 centre halves. People on here on one hand are giving out that we signed Harper because he is taking the place of our own youth, on the the other hand then they are saying they don't want Wharton or Platt to start. People seem to just find their angle to complain, even if it totally contradicts what they are saying in another thread Yes you can. It's called strength in depth. All good teams have it. We play 46 games including mid-week, the carabao cup (when we were in it), FA Cup and the checkatrade trophy. Way over 55 games if you have a decent run in a cup. That's more than enough games to keep players happy with sensible rotation. Especially considering two of your centre halves are injuries waiting to happen.
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said: Yes you can. It's called strength in depth. All good teams have it. We play 46 games including mid-week, the carabao cup (when we were in it), FA Cup and the checkatrade trophy. Way over 55 games if you have a decent run in a cup. That's more than enough games to keep players happy with sensible rotation. Especially considering two of your centre halves are injuries waiting to happen. We have 6 center halves, you can't keep signing 7 ,8, 9 center halves IN CASE someone gets injured and expect to keep everyone happy. You also can't expect to keep the standard the same.
arbitro Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Yes very easy to have 6 first choice centre halves... And to keep them all happy... You can just sign players in case someone gets injured. In that case we would have 8 centre halves. People on here on one hand are giving out that we signed Harper because he is taking the place of our own youth, on the the other hand then they are saying they don't want Wharton or Platt to start. People seem to just find their angle to complain, even if it totally contradicts what they are saying in another thread I think people are frustrated at not bringing a centre half earlier that the last day of the window. Leaving it that late meant we were severely restricted to who we could get. If the Lenihan injury had been diagnosed earlier there might have been more effort to get Henaghan in (who I'm sure would have fitted the bill) rather than leaving it too late and restricting the chances of being gazumped.
Dreams of 1995 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: We have 6 center halves, you can't keep signing 7 ,8, 9 center halves IN CASE someone gets injured and expect to keep everyone happy. You also can't expect to keep the standard the same. Nope you can expect at least 5 of them centre halves to be more than capable of stepping up to the plate. Downing aside, whose history suggests he can play a full season at this level, who else would you say is fit to play there? Williams? Then who plays LB? Mowbray missed a chance to properly reinforce the defence. Let's hope he doesn't pay for it.
JHRover Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Yes very easy to have 6 first choice centre halves... And to keep them all happy... You can just sign players in case someone gets injured. In that case we would have 8 centre halves. People on here on one hand are giving out that we signed Harper because he is taking the place of our own youth, on the the other hand then they are saying they don't want Wharton or Platt to start. People seem to just find their angle to complain, even if it totally contradicts what they are saying in another thread Promotion/league winning SQUADS have depth, options and backup. Every side in history has suffered at least one or two injuries to important players over the course of a 46 game season. Those who succeed are the ones who are best prepared for that and have the personnel to deal with it. Many fans, myself included, have been concerned by the depth of this squad particularly at the back and up front all summer. Now, only 4 games into the season, the squad is going to be tested. Nobody seriously expected Mulgrew to play 46 games and maintain his international place and neither will Elliott Ward. The minute Lenihan suffered his injury at Southend then we should have brought in another CB at least on loan. Nobody can seriously expect us to have 6 first choice CBs and keep them all happy. I expect at least 3-4 proven quality CBs with 1-2 lads from the reserves ready/able to step in if necessary. The manager, like those before him, has been reluctant to trust the U23s so far as seen by his recruitment of kids from WBA and Liverpool on deadline day. I suspect our academy costs more per year than Rochdale's entire wagebill, so if it isn't going to bear fruit now then when will it?
AllRoverAsia Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, arbitro said: I think people are frustrated at not bringing a centre half earlier that the last day of the window. Leaving it that late meant we were severely restricted to who we could get. If the Lenihan injury had been diagnosed earlier there might have been more effort to get Henaghan in (who I'm sure would have fitted the bill) rather than leaving it too late and restricting the chances of being gazumped. We were never seriously in for Henaghan. Sheff U had him earmarked all window whether or not they pursued Lenihan. If I know that then surely TM/MV did too.
islander200 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 8 hours ago, JHRover said: Sadly predictable and frankly outrageous that we're in this position after 4 games. We all knew Mulgrew and Ward would sustain injuries before January and with Lenihan out since Southend this new lad from MK had better be ready. I agree though, the calibre of opposition coming up means our £3 million per year academy needs to come good. Mowbray won't use the academy wether they are ready or not
arbitro Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, AllRoverAsia said: We were never seriously in for Henaghan. Sheff U has him earmarked all window whether or not they pursued Lenihan. If I know that then surely TM/MV did too. From watching that clip of deadline day at Sheffield United my impression was that they only became interested in Henaghan at the last minute. My point though was that we simply left it too late, ended up losing him and pretty much panic bought.
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