Bigdoggsteel Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 I see a lot of these teams being named by journalists on social media recently. Usually the team looks something like this Schmeichael Neville Terry Ferdinand Cole Ronaldo Keane Scholes Giggs Shearer Henry You have others who are often named like Beckham, Gerrard, Drogba, Viera, Lampard, Cantona, Adams, Rooney etc etc I never see Hendry there. Is it because of what he has gotten up to post career, or was he just not one of the greats? Any others do you think, Sherwood? Sutton?
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J*B Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 39 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I see a lot of these teams being named by journalists on social media recently. Usually the team looks something like this Schmeichael Neville Terry Ferdinand Cole Ronaldo Keane Scholes Giggs Shearer Henry You have others who are often named like Beckham, Gerrard, Drogba, Viera, Lampard, Cantona, Adams, Rooney etc etc I never see Hendry there. Is it because of what he has gotten up to post career, or was he just not one of the greats? Any others do you think, Sherwood? Sutton? I don't think anyone can make a case for Hendry, Sherwood or Sutton being ahead of Terry, Ferdinand, Keane, Scholes or Henry in their respective primes when the likes of Adams, Viera, Lampard, Gerrard, Drogba, Rooney, Cantona are on the bench.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: I see a lot of these teams being named by journalists on social media recently. Usually the team looks something like this Schmeichael Neville Terry Ferdinand Cole Ronaldo Keane Scholes Giggs Shearer Henry You have others who are often named like Beckham, Gerrard, Drogba, Viera, Lampard, Cantona, Adams, Rooney etc etc I never see Hendry there. Is it because of what he has gotten up to post career, or was he just not one of the greats? Any others do you think, Sherwood? Sutton? Neville is lucky to get into that team, what about Marcel Desailly instead of Ferdinand ?
OJRovers Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Bale surely worth a mention. Kaba Diawara criminally overlooked too.
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 7, 2017 Author Posted September 7, 2017 Desailly and Bale are good shouts. I suppose Desailly was in decline when he arrived in England and Bale, while unplayable, won nothing.
Blow-in Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Not a Blackburn player but how Dennis Irwin is not on the list as Right Back is downright criminal in my opinion.
Dreams of 1995 Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Neville is lucky to get into that team, what about Marcel Desailly instead of Ferdinand ? Ferdinand is one of the greatest defenders to play in England. He can't miss out on the team. He was quick, good in the tackle, good with the ball, good in the air and a good leader. Everything you want from a centre half. Sol Campbell is overlooked too often. Campbell and Ferdinand for England definitely filled you with more confidence than bloody Cahill and Jones.
Lancs Rover Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Paul McGrath, anyone.? After reading his autobiography, I think he's worth two places in the team! ?
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 7, 2017 Moderation Lead Posted September 7, 2017 I think the team was selected on longevity tbh. So, Shearer as he is the all-time record PL goalscorer pretty much has to be in there. Whilst a lot of Rovers lads were obviously instrumental in our success, they never did it to the same level after leaving us.....
Salgado Is Still A Hero Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 57 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Where's Denis Bergkamp ? Wherever he is, I hope it's ahead of Rooney.
Give 'Em the Axe Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, K-Hod said: I think the team was selected on longevity tbh. So, Shearer as he is the all-time record PL goalscorer pretty much has to be in there. Whilst a lot of Rovers lads were obviously instrumental in our success, they never did it to the same level after leaving us..... Precisely. Part of the rationale for the team that Lineker, M***hy, Shearer, and Wright put together for the BBC was longevity and honors in the Premier League.
Give 'Em the Axe Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Blow-in said: Not a Blackburn player but how Dennis Irwin is not on the list as Right Back is downright criminal in my opinion. Absolutely, 200% agree with you there. A dedicated, hardworking, no-nonsense pro with both steel and class in abundance. The mind boggles at how much of a fee he'd command these days. Incredible player and definitely one of our (RoI) all-time greats. Either flank, like. No difference!
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 7, 2017 Author Posted September 7, 2017 43 minutes ago, Give 'Em the Axe said: Precisely. Part of the rationale for the team that Lineker, M***hy, Shearer, and Wright put together for the BBC was longevity and honors in the Premier League. Their team was laughable due to the fact that was their rational, yet they left Roy Keane out. A few personal gripes came into play there.
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 7, 2017 Author Posted September 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, Give 'Em the Axe said: Absolutely, 200% agree with you there. A dedicated, hardworking, no-nonsense pro with both steel and class in abundance. The mind boggles at how much of a fee he'd command these days. Incredible player and definitely one of our (RoI) all-time greats. Either flank, like. No difference! Penalty and free kick specialist too.
Give 'Em the Axe Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Penalty and free kick specialist too. And a crackin' haircut.
Bigdoggsteel Posted September 7, 2017 Author Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, Give 'Em the Axe said: And a crackin' haircut. No nonsense ,practical and with a touch of class. Just like the man himself.
joey_big_nose Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I see a lot of these teams being named by journalists on social media recently. Usually the team looks something like this Schmeichael Neville Terry Ferdinand Cole Ronaldo Keane Scholes Giggs Shearer Henry You have others who are often named like Beckham, Gerrard, Drogba, Viera, Lampard, Cantona, Adams, Rooney etc etc I never see Hendry there. Is it because of what he has gotten up to post career, or was he just not one of the greats? Any others do you think, Sherwood? Sutton? To be honest it's hard to argue with that lineup. Also telling that Scholes is in there, and the two players who kept him out of the England team and ultimately led to his retirement - Gerrard and Lampard - are not. Defense is not that great - none of those names except for maybe Cole was truly world class - but there isn't really many better names I can think of.
Oldgregg86 Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Blow-in said: Not a Blackburn player but how Dennis Irwin is not on the list as Right Back is downright criminal in my opinion. Because he was a left back
Blow-in Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said: Because he was a left back He could play either side and did regularly. I felt he would have an easier time displacing Neville who was a great defender but imo not in the same class as Cole
Oldgregg86 Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 No one I'm premier league history comes close to cole left or right in imo
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said: No one I'm premier league history comes close to cole left or right in imo 6 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said: No one I'm premier league history comes close to cole left or right in imo When he was at his peak Cole was as good a left back as I've seen play for England. Up there with Ray Wilson. Terry Cooper and Kenny Sansom were also top class.
Backroom Mike E Posted September 8, 2017 Backroom Posted September 8, 2017 14 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: To be honest it's hard to argue with that lineup. Also telling that Scholes is in there, and the two players who kept him out of the England team and ultimately led to his retirement - Gerrard and Lampard - are not. Defense is not that great - none of those names except for maybe Cole was truly world class - but there isn't really many better names I can think of. Scholes was great to watch, but not a true 'great' and certainly not ahead of Gerrard or Lampard. I think he suffers from being so vastly overrated now because of how criminally underrated he was in his playing days. This twitter thread explains my thoughts nicely (and adds a few bits), btw you can all read it, twitter not needed: http://www.givemesport.com/1092549-chelsea-fan-produces-amazing-rant-on-twitter-about-paul-scholes
donnermeat Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 When Zizou calls you the best midfielder of your generation, then for me you are a great player.
oldjamfan1 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike E said: Scholes was great to watch, but not a true 'great' and certainly not ahead of Gerrard or Lampard. I think he suffers from being so vastly overrated now because of how criminally underrated he was in his playing days. This twitter thread explains my thoughts nicely (and adds a few bits), btw you can all read it, twitter not needed: http://www.givemesport.com/1092549-chelsea-fan-produces-amazing-rant-on-twitter-about-paul-scholes Scholes was a footballer's footballer. Sir Alex Ferguson realised what he was missing when he retired the first time - and talked him into pulling his boots on again. That sort of move is virtually unprecedented at that level, I would think. That suggests he was irreplaceable! And as much as I despise the club he played for, I would have had him in the England team in central midfield before Gerrard and Lampard every time. That isn't to say they weren't a couple of great players as well. The timing of his tackling let him down on occasions but that's about the only slight flaw he had in his game.
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