Harry Chapman

[GHR]

Two well taken goals today. Good to see him getting what seems to be a proper opportunity rather than his fleeting appearances for us of recent months. Best of luck to him.

[Sparks Rover]

5 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

It’s up to him, does he want it enough? Maybe this move will wake him up a it.

I'm with you.  Never got a sniff here...just got the impression he wasn't in Tony's "Get-Along-Gang" and being young struggled to navigate his way past smarter professionals who have the managers ear...the lad will do well when he matures.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

20 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I'm with you.  Never got a sniff here...just got the impression he wasn't in Tony's "Get-Along-Gang" and being young struggled to navigate his way past smarter professionals who have the managers ear...the lad will do well when he matures.

He had his chances and didn’t take them. Plenty of young players have seized their chances and are regularly involved in the match day squads. Travis being a prime example.

 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

4 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

He had his chances and didn’t take them. Plenty of young players have seized their chances and are regularly involved in the match day squads. Travis being a prime example.

 

He didn't have his chances. How many games did he start, even in L1? Very few yet when he played in L1 he looked a class above most. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Chapmans new boss Cotterill has been in hospital with Covid for two weeks. 

[Sparks Rover]

10 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

He had his chances and didn’t take them.

Rubbish.  Benno played instead.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

10 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

He didn't have his chances. How many games did he start, even in L1? Very few yet when he played in L1 he looked a class above most. 

He’s had enough cameo appearances in the Champ and not done much. Said a lot that Middlesbrough were willing to let him go. Not saying he’s a write off and it will be interesting to see how he does over the next 3 months with a run of games. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

He’s had enough cameo appearances in the Champ and not done much.

Again, untrue. 

[Andy]

15 hours ago, riverholmes said:

Injuries permitting - which, I think, is a concern for him, based on his record - I think Chapman can do an Alan Judge and flourish in the Championship with another club, after being let go. I see Chapman, in a few years, playing at a higher level than Brereton - injuries permitting, again.

It's a shame that we won't get any money for him, assuming he leaves for a free this year. However, I'm partly glad he's going and will get an opportunity to prove himself, including his attitude, which has been cast doubt upon during his Rovers spell. Given the formation we play and the preference for persevering with Brereton and having Dolan and Rothwell, his chances were even more limited. Moreover, Shrewsbury have given him the No.10 position, based on his debut, and, I think that that might be his best position, especially, if, as it seems, he has lost some pace as a result of injuries.

 

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

Chapman will be nowhere near that.

A few stepovers and goals in League 1 won’t change that.

[Mattyblue]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

 

Assuming we don’t get there, what are you seeing that would interest a PL club and a top international side like Chile?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

52 minutes ago, Andy said:

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

Chapman will be nowhere near that.

A few stepovers and goals in League 1 won’t change that.

I like to see a confident player Ben. Good luck next week against QPR, if you get selected that is.

Edited January 31, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Uddersfelt Blue]

4 minutes ago, Andy said:

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

Chapman will be nowhere near that.

A few stepovers and goals in League 1 won’t change that.

As much as Brereton has improved this season he is nowhere near Prem level. Chile international? Really? 
 

Two cracking goals with either foot from Chapman in League 1 may be his level. Maybe Brereton could do with a spell there. 

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

49 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Again, untrue. 

Well, my comment is subjective so you can disagree but it’s not ‘untrue’. How long did it take Dolan to impress? Chapman has had game time. Not much, but enough to make an impression in my opinion. He failed to take those chances.

Edited January 31, 2021 by magicalmortensleftpeg

[Ewood Ace]

11 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

He had his chances and didn’t take them. Plenty of young players have seized their chances and are regularly involved in the match day squads. Travis being a prime example.

 

Got his chances? The lad never started a game. He has had 12 sub appearances in 2 years the longest he got given on the pitch was 25 minutes. His amount of game time in the League in his 2 years since signing is just 196 minutes (so just over two full games). Compare that with the amount of chances and sub standard performances we have seen from the likes of Buckley and Brereton over the same time.

[Ewood Ace]

11 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Well, my comment is subjective so you can disagree but it’s not ‘untrue’. How long did it take Dolan to impress? Chapman has had game time. Not much, but enough to make an impression in my opinion. He failed to take those chances.

And after his first bad performance Dolan was dropped to the bench where he has remained ever since. Dolan like Chapman will end up a victim of Mowbray's bizarre use of wide players.

[Ossydave]

I'd like to give Mowbray a few drinks and ask him exactly what his issue is with Chapman. He's a stubborn old thing and whatever it is he has done seems unforgivable! 

[Hasta]

10 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Well, my comment is subjective so you can disagree but it’s not ‘untrue’. How long did it take Dolan to impress? Chapman has had game time. Not much, but enough to make an impression in my opinion. He failed to take those chances.

Brereton was awful for two years and still got chance after chance.  Chapman got nowhere near that amount of time.

Edited January 31, 2021 by Hasta

[joey_big_nose]

On 31/01/2021 at 11:05, Andy said:

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

Chapman will be nowhere near that.

A few stepovers and goals in League 1 won’t change that.

I mean he's improved a bit this season, but what on earth makes your think BB will be in the prem?!?

[rigger]

On 31/01/2021 at 11:05, Andy said:

Brereton will be playing in the Prem within a few years.

Possibly even internationally (with Chile).

Chapman will be nowhere near that.

A few stepovers and goals in League 1 won’t change that.

Scottish prem maybe!

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

8 minutes ago, rigger said:

Scottish prem maybe!

Northern Prem

[MarkBRFC]

On 31/01/2021 at 22:25, Hasta said:

Brereton was awful for two years and still got chance after chance.  Chapman got nowhere near that amount of time.

That's because one cost £7m and the other didn't.

[neophox]

We will have a better and fitter Harry Chapman next season. Good for him to go on loan as I cant see him have a start place at Rovers at the moment but maybe next season?

[Mattyblue]

Out of contract in the summer so I imagine we’ve seen the last of him here...

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

25 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Out of contract in the summer so I imagine we’ve seen the last of him here...

I would have thought he's playing for a contract at Shrewsbury at the moment.

[USABlue]

We crack me up. So Haary doin well at a league one club and we are positively salivating.  If he was not iurs and we were looking to sign him we'd be moanin it's only league one.  Looks to me like he's woke up and smelled the coffee.  Was not doin it here, by some accounts a.poor attitude.

  Bides well fornus if he can get fit, mentally right so.e confidence and come back and have a right good go.  If he chooses to.  chances are if his contracts up he'll be off.  Right now he is olaying for his footballing future, do or die right now.