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islander200 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Sky reporting Ashley Young to start ahead of Danny Rose on Monday. Walker,Stoned and Maguire the back 3. Henderson to get the nod ahead of Dier Quote
MarkBRFC Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I'd rather go for the naturally left footed Rose. I'd go Walker right wing back, Stones, Cahill & Maguire as the back 3, with Rose on the other side. Henderson/Dier can't really see much of a difference there. Rest of the side picks its self I think. 1 Quote
Husky Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said: The whole group is suspect. Could an easier group be drawn. They are all easy groups for the 2 that qualify. Besides, Saudi Arabia are better than Russia according to FIFA. ? It's no mean feat to beat a better team 5-0. When was the last time England did that at the World Cup Finals? I just have memories of us struggling past the might of Trinidad & Tobago etc. Furthermore, when the World Cup is extended it will just mean a load more toss the minnow games that are hardly worth watching. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 15, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted June 15, 2018 I always seemed to have the idea that there were less goals at a World Cup in the main, I suppose Russia put paid to that theory. My mate made the suggestion yesterday that the Saudi players might have been tired as it was the last day of Ramadan yesterday? Either way, I didn't think Russia would have been so much better than them..... Quote
JAL Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 How can Southgate select the error strewn Everton goalkeeper Pickford over the less error strewn keeper Butland ? Then Southgate goes and picks the error strewn Stones another ex Evertonian dummy alongside untried Maguire for a world cup game. Hope it comes off Gareth then there's pitching Sterling with Kane mmmm..... Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 15, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, JAL said: How can Southgate select the error strewn Everton goalkeeper Pickford over the less error strewn keeper Butland ? Then Southgate goes and picks the error strewn Stones another ex Evertonian dummy alongside untried Maguire for a world cup game. Hope it comes off Gareth then there's pitching Sterling with Kane mmmm..... He hasn't even picked the team yet, so you're basing this ramble on rumour. Wait until Monday before slagging off the squad, eh? In the words of Graeme Souness: 'We've got to wee with the willy we've got'. Quote
roverandout Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, islander200 said: Not that an easy group. Yeah Saudi Arabia are poor and was an easy first game but Uruguay are an excellent side and I echo others who have them tipped as dark horses.Egypt arnt a bad side either and have more than just Salah. I would say England's group is just as easy.Cant say I know much about Panama but you wouldn't expect them to be up to much.Tunisia and Egypt are similar I suppose but Tunisia don't have a player of Salah's standing.And Uruguay and Belgium are of similar quality although imo Uruguay are the better of the two Belgium are far better than uruguay..aside from their front two i dont get the hype over them Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 15, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, roverandout said: Belgium are far better than uruguay..aside from their front two i dont get the hype over them 100%. Godin is class at the back, but other than that, man for man Belgium are way better. Belgium's achilles heel will be in the dug out..... 1 Quote
JAL Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, K-Hod said: He hasn't even picked the team yet, so you're basing this ramble on rumour. Wait until Monday before slagging off the squad, eh? In the words of Graeme Souness: 'We've got to wee with the willy we've got'. Why wait till Monday it's just a few points of note that I'm questioning beforehand that's all. Edited June 15, 2018 by JAL Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 15, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, JAL said: Why wait till Monday it's just a few points of note that I'm questioning beforehand that's all. Because you don't even know what the team is yet, nobody does! I wouldn't say there's much difference between any of the goalkeepers, in terms of quality tbh. Neither are spectacular, but Butland has probably made more errors of late, certainly at club level.... Quote
islander200 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, roverandout said: Belgium are far better than uruguay..aside from their front two i dont get the hype over them Godin is one of the best centre halfs in the world?Jimenez isn't a bad player either both would walk into the England team. I don't agree that Belgium are a far better side at all.Its close between the two of them Uruguay have been terrible in the opening 45 v Egypt though Quote
Husky Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I thought they might have given Mo Salah a run out. Egypt could sneak this one 1-0. Though I guess they don't want him to get cropped by the 'dirty' Uruguayans. Quote
roverandout Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 38 minutes ago, islander200 said: Godin is one of the best centre halfs in the world?Jimenez isn't a bad player either both would walk into the England team. I don't agree that Belgium are a far better side at all.Its close between the two of them Uruguay have been terrible in the opening 45 v Egypt though Two decent centrebacks and two world class forwards. They dont have much else. Belgium player for player are much better. England are equal to uruguay Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 15, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted June 15, 2018 Uruguay look like they've snatched it late. Reckon Egypt will be ruing the decision not to get Salah off the bench.... Quote
Backroom Tom Posted June 15, 2018 Backroom Posted June 15, 2018 Egypt manager absolutely Gary Bowyered it. Game was there for the taking going into the last ten and they shut up shop instead of throwing Salah on. Deserved to lose after that 1 Quote
Husky Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Possibly good news for Russia, depending on how you look at it. Quote
islander200 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, roverandout said: Two decent centrebacks and two world class forwards. They dont have much else. Belgium player for player are much better. England are equal to uruguay On paper Belgium have the advantage but still 4 Cavani,Suarez,Godin and Gimenez would start in a combined 11. I'm not saying there is a massive difference but from watching both play numerous times then i think Uruguay just shade it. That could be down to the management of Belgium as they should be much better than they are. Iv not been impressed with Uruguay today but if on top form I think they would beat England.Id be hoping England would win though Quote
Stuart Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Slavan Bilic has just broken the golden rule of invited pundits and made a great point about the negative effect our broadcast media has on England. I paraphrase but: ”Why do you always show clips of England players missing penalties or John Terry crying on the pitch or Joe Hart, with music like from The Omen? The players always watch this before games” He went on to make a bigger deal about it but that was nail on the head. We always highlight failure. It’s like we have to wallow in pity and mourning all the time. Why can’t they promote our good results or moments? Edited June 15, 2018 by Stuart 1 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, Stuart said: Slavan Bilic has just broken the golden rule and made a great point about the negative effect our broadcast media has on England. I paraphrase but: ”Why do you always show clips of England players missing penalties or John Terry crying on the pitch or Joe Hart, with music like from The Omen? The players always watch this before games” He went on to make a bigger deal about it but that was nail on the head. We always highlight failure. It’s like we have to wallow in pity and mourning all the time. Why can’t they promote our good results or moments? I wonder how this compares to other countries. Apparently the Brazilian, Italian, French and Spanish press & broadcasters can be brutal at times, but I guess that it might be slightly easier to shrug off if you've got a recent history of success. Quote
Audax Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 4 points, a draw from one of Russia's remaining matches should see them advance. Egypt is up against it some but 4 points would likely see them advance as well. Quote
Audax Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Morocco Iran on, I'm not partial to Morocco or anything. They keep on bidding on the World Cup and they get turned down. It sounds like Qatar greased the wheels and got the World Cup for next time. So, Morocco like UK, have been getting a sour deal. We will see. Quote
JAL Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, K-Hod said: Because you don't even know what the team is yet, nobody does! I wouldn't say there's much difference between any of the goalkeepers, in terms of quality tbh. Neither are spectacular, but Butland has probably made more errors of late, certainly at club level.... Reporter Sam Cunningham of the Independent newspaper following England in Russia reports on Jordan Pickford 'cocking up' in England's first training session at Spartan Zelenogorsk. The stats show and I've seen Pickford drop bollocks on premiership pitches, far too many, to be even considered for a world cup tournament. Pickford out ! Edited June 15, 2018 by JAL Quote
Backroom Tom Posted June 15, 2018 Backroom Posted June 15, 2018 Entertaining game again this one, really open, low on quality but fun to watch 1 Quote
Audax Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Indeed, a fast moving game, these two teams will go on to face Portugal and Spain. I know players have been on the ground and such, one just went out ailing but overall, often the "lower-echelon" teams play pretty clean, just my humble opinion..... and then, the traditional powers, some at least, seem to pull more tricks. I just like the spectacle of the WC. Quote
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