matt83 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, DE. said: I've been impressed with Iran so far. A lot of energy, defending like their lives depend on it, but have also managed a few counter attacks and looked dangerous on the break. Spain really struggling to break them down. Apparently Iran haven’t lost a competitive game in 4 years and have kept 18/22 clean sheets. Quote
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Husky Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, DE. said: I've been impressed with Iran so far. A lot of energy, defending like their lives depend on it, but have also managed a few counter attacks and looked dangerous on the break. Spain really struggling to break them down. The usual ITV clowns weren't impressed. Anyway, it's all over now. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool! Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) If Iran get this goal now VAR has absolutely killed the emotion of it Edited June 20, 2018 by Oldgregg86 Quote
Husky Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Haha. What a clown at the end, wasting time. I haven't seen such a stupid throw in since the 90s ☺️? Quote
ChrisPriceBaldSpot Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Spain don't look like they would cause us too many problems. In fact I would say Belgium and the Mexicans have been the best teams so far. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said: Spain don't look like they would cause us too many problems. In fact I would say Belgium and the Mexicans have been the best teams so far. And us..we perfomed alot better than belgium did and against a better team..belgium looked laboured..agree on mexico Edited June 20, 2018 by roverandout Quote
roversfan99 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Belgium are not a good team, they have individuals who are always going to score goals but overall im not convinced. Martinez is a terrible manager, they play 3 at the back with Boyata in the middle (they will try and rush Kompany back before our game but thats a risk in itself) and with Carrasco (an attacking winger playing in China) as one of the wing backs. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Martinez is a joke..i fancy us to get a result against them if we have already qualified..a van gaal or a hiddink would get this belgium team to a semi final Quote
Audax Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 I think Mexico is a great team, I also think, a team might get way up for one specific game, the problem if you are a "giant killer" and have a let down the next game BUT... they should cruise to the knockout rounds and then, everyone is doing there best. For so long, when Brazil was so good, there was almost only one team in Europe that could best them, France did it in '98 and '06.... it's almost like people think, good, that team beat the best team out there... now Germany and perhaps others have now defeated the once vaunted champs... not to knock 'em, just history. Quote
Audax Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Spain Portugal, IMO, was a game for the ages, yet, was only in the group stage, who knows if one would see such a dynamic match in the knock out rounds.....so, I'm just waiting and seeing about these countries. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 21, 2018 Backroom Posted June 21, 2018 I don't think anybody except Russia has really shown what they can do yet. Belgium had a good second half against Panama, but... it's Panama. Seems like most are trying to get to the knock out stages using the least amount of effort. Makes sense but other than Spain/Portugal it hasn't made for an exciting start to the tournament. All of these set piece goals though. Allardyce would be in his element! Quote
Audax Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 36 year wait for Peru to get back into the World Cup, I don't see them losing, maybe a draw. Quote
speeeeeeedie Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 7 hours ago, DE. said: I don't think anybody except Russia has really shown what they can do yet. Belgium had a good second half against Panama, but... it's Panama. Seems like most are trying to get to the knock out stages using the least amount of effort. Makes sense but other than Spain/Portugal it hasn't made for an exciting start to the tournament. All of these set piece goals though. Allardyce would be in his element! I think that it's been a good world cup. Yesterday's 1-0's may have looked dour but both Morocco and Iran played very well. Spain - Portugal was a classic. Australia - Denmark was a bit boring, and the draw means that the Aussies need Peru to beat France or they are going home. Quote
Husky Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Audax said: 36 year wait for Peru to get back into the World Cup, I don't see them losing, maybe a draw. But they've already lost to Denmark. Plus France are one of the main VAR teams. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 21, 2018 Backroom Posted June 21, 2018 Peru are useless in front of goal. It's why they're going to be going home very soon. 1 Quote
Husky Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, DE. said: Peru are useless in front of goal. It's why they're going to be going home very soon. A lot of the 'minnows' seem to be able to play some pretty football, but their finishing is appalling (as we also saw yesterday). So far France are definitely no.1 in the raggiest team in the tournament table. A very dubious VAR penalty and 2 lucky deflections. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 21, 2018 Backroom Posted June 21, 2018 Going to be so gutted if France end up with six points from two games. They've been dreadful. 1 Quote
Audax Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 I gave Peru some credit here, they can't score to save themselves. I give the winning teams credit too, they aren't winning for no reason at all. Another example of the shift in power to the European teams really. Quote
Audax Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) There's a reason Peru defeats New Zealand but are totally contained vs. France, this just insn't coincidence. Based on Argentina only drawing Iceland, total respect to Iceland, South America should almost have a spot taken away and given to another team. Peru a good run up to the WC, friendly wins vs. Iceland, Scotland, Saudi Arabia and Croatia, one would really thought, they'd do more today. Edited June 21, 2018 by Audax Quote
Husky Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, Audax said: There's a reason Peru defeats New Zealand but are totally contained vs. France, this just insn't coincidence. Based on Argentina only drawing Iceland, total respect to Iceland, South America should almost have a spot taken away and given to another team. I think the future expansion of the tournament is to assure that teams like Italy and Holland don't miss out. Quote
Husky Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) France could go far in this tournament. They are stodgy and lucky - heaven help anyone that plays them if any of their stars start showing a bit of magic too. Edited June 21, 2018 by Husky Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 21, 2018 Backroom Posted June 21, 2018 Unless France step up their game significantly they're going to be sent home by the first decent team they face. It's possible they're saving their effort for the more difficult matches, but if I was a French supporter I'd be pretty concerned. Peru generally gave a good account of themselves but like a lot of teams in this tournament look very poor in front of goal. Quote
roverandout Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 France look overrated to me so far..mbappe has done nothing to warrant the hype..in fact rashford did more in 20 mins the other night than this guy has done in 2 games (the tap in aside). No doubting they have quality but they play like this against stronger teams, they are going out. Quote
speeeeeeedie Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Husky said: France could go far in this tournament. They are stodgy and lucky - heaven help anyone that plays them if any of their stars start showing a bit of magic too. 14 minutes ago, DE. said: Unless France step up their game significantly they're going to be sent home by the first decent team they face. It's possible they're saving their effort for the more difficult matches, but if I was a French supporter I'd be pretty concerned. 11 minutes ago, roverandout said: France look overrated to me so far..mbappe has done nothing to warrant the hype..in fact rashford did more in 20 mins the other night than this guy has done in 2 games (the tap in aside). No doubting they have quality but they play like this against stronger teams, they are going out. I've been having this debate myself. France are a hard team to figure out. They are through with 2 wins yet look utterly unconvincing. They are stocked with talent but don't seem to know how to best use it. Giroud starting has to be concerning. If they do click they'll be up there. If they keep plodding they'll be out sooner rather than later. I also agree with DE"s point regarding finishing. There are only a few teams with players who look like they can score. Fortunately England have one of those players. In World Cup's gone by shots from outside the box were commonplace (Mexico 86 was fantastic for long range goals). I've not seen many players even trying to shoot from 20+ yards out. Quote
Husky Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Regarding the fans it looks like a lot of the other countries are massively supported (a lot from countries we are told are 'poor'). Yet there are hardly any England fans over in Russia. Is this all part of the 'big lie' and in fact it's England that is one of these poverty stricken countries (often known as rip off Britain)? Is it all Theresa May's fault for screwing the people over and playing her part in trying to cause trouble with Russia? The mind boggles. Now onto the game . . . lol . . . . . Quote
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