Backroom Tom Posted June 25, 2018 Backroom Posted June 25, 2018 Ronaldo booked after a VAR review, borderline one but I think the ref got it right, the fact a lot think it’s a red shows how much it’s still down to opinion no matter how many angles you see. VAR helps but it can’t make it all perfect Quote
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Ewood Ace Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 If this game had a decent ref Iran would be level at the very least. The officiating so far in this tournament has been excellent but this ref has been awful. Quote
Backroom Tom Posted June 25, 2018 Backroom Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Ewood Ace said: If this game had a decent ref Iran would be level at the very least. The officiating so far in this tournament has been excellent but this ref has been awful. What’s he got wrong? I’ve not seen anything obvious 1 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Just now, Tom said: What’s he got wrong? I’ve not seen anything obvious Gave Portugal a pen then never was and then failed to give Iran one for a similar incident. Should have sent Ronaldo of and has given every 50/50 or soft decision to Portugal. At last he gives Iran a decision although he couldn't really not. Edited June 25, 2018 by Ewood Ace 2 Quote
Backroom Tom Posted June 25, 2018 Backroom Posted June 25, 2018 Ok now that’s one that didn’t need reviewing he’s become a little too reliant this ref. Tricky game to ref as both teams have acted awfully around him Hes just given a penalty now to Iran that never was a penalty after reviewing VAR, user error that Quote
Ewood Ace Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 And now Spain equalise to go top of the group Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 25, 2018 Backroom Posted June 25, 2018 Fair to say Spain and Portugal are nothing to be scared of. 3 Quote
arbitro Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Tom said: Ok now that’s one that didn’t need reviewing he’s become a little too reliant this ref. Tricky game to ref as both teams have acted awfully around him Hes just given a penalty now to Iran that never was a penalty after reviewing VAR, user error that But the VAR considered all the incidents to be clear and obvious errors. That is four people studying incidents from lots of angles and then supported by the on field referee. It's farcical and I think will become even more ridiculous when we get to the knock out stage. 1 Quote
Husky Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 England aren't lucky enough to win this tournament. You gotta have a ragometer off the scale. 1 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Very exciting game that. Iran have been a credit to the tournament Quote
joey_big_nose Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Thought VAR was doing okay till saw that Iran vs Portugal game. It was utterly utterly farcical. Quote
Audax Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, arbitro said: But the VAR considered all the incidents to be clear and obvious errors. That is four people studying incidents from lots of angles and then supported by the on field referee. It's farcical and I think will become even more ridiculous when we get to the knock out stage. Arbitro: Can the VAR room rule one way and the referee reject it? It almost seems that happened in the Egyptian/Saudi match. Thanks. Quote
Claytons Left Boot Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Just how can the modern day footballer be refereed. Watching the Portugal v Iran game and the lot of them are like petulant school boys. I love football but, as one who has had a keen interest in Rugby League for twent five years, cannot believe how every single decision is argued by the players and nothing is done about it. Any one who surrounds the ref, mouthing off, should be booked. End of. Turning to VAR, what a farce. No way was that a penalty. Again, it should be like Rugby League. Let the ref referee the game. Give him the responsibility but, if he is not sure about some major decision, let him ask the VAR team for a second look. The football way is going into it way too deeply and taking the responsibility away from him. He may as well not be on the pitch. I won’t go into the blatant cheating, rolling about, feigning injury and so on. Effing *ankers. 3 Quote
Husky Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Imagine if England had qualified like Spain or Portugal. Everyone would be saying we are shit and have got no chance. 1 Quote
jim mk2 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Iran could/should have won that in the last 2 minutes. That miss will haunt their player for the rest of his life - assuming the Supreme Leader doesn't throw him in jail Edited June 25, 2018 by jim mk2 Quote
AdamRochina Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Iran should leave with heads held high ..conceded two goals in a group with Portugal and Spain. .one which is a wonderful goal.. they have mixed it with the best and looked comfortable ..I clapped them at the final whistle. Well done Iran Quote
roverandout Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Think spains best days are behind them..pass..pass..pass..go backwards..pass..pass..pass..lose the ball Quote
arbitro Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Audax said: Arbitro: Can the VAR room rule one way and the referee reject it? It almost seems that happened in the Egyptian/Saudi match. Thanks. Yes the referee can disagree with the VAR but it will be a brave referee who does that. I said last week that once an incident is referred by VAR as a clear and obvious error the on field referee will be under huge pressure to go against their advice. 2 Quote
Stuart Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 VAR certainly isn’t making the game as sterile as it was feared by some. However, a bad referee will still be a bad referee even with a better tool at his disposal. And tonight’s candidate was a duck egg. What doesn’t help though is that the referee is not being given a view of the most conclusive angle to base his decision on. 1 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Typical BBC no credit for Iran all the refs doing. Quote
Backroom Tom Posted June 25, 2018 Backroom Posted June 25, 2018 So I’ve said from the start that I think VAR has been good this tournament - that brings us to today, firstly Ronaldo penalty, good decision, red card - good decision, Iran penalty - shambolic. The problem that I see emerging is refs are using it as a safety net and constantly checking, the clear and obvious error line is being lost already. The tech could work but refs need to be stronger and better - but if they were then we would have never needed it. Used when appropriate this could work, as it is it’s far to prevelant and nearly every incident that half was referred. At the same time it just allowed a perfectly good goal for Spain that would have been ruled out otherwise. 1 Quote
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