philipl Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I thought the Qataris emerged after Venkys bought the club ? As for the Australian was that the character called Dan something where it was never clear whether there were actually funds in place ? I agree with you that the debt is now effectively irrelevant. It is now so large that there is no prospect of it being paid off by the club's operations so it only comes in to play on a sale Qataris had two goes, once with the Trust in 2007 which never became public knowledge and once with the Raos which did. The Australian wasn't called Dan and was worth £7bn at the time he was interested. He was the guy who organised the Sydney Olympics. Quote
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Mashed Potatoes Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, philipl said: Qataris had two goes, once with the Trust in 2007 which never became public knowledge and once with the Raos which did. The Australian wasn't called Dan and was worth £7bn at the time he was interested. He was the guy who organised the Sydney Olympics. Thanks. The Australian does not appear to have followed through on his interest in English football anywhere else so I would guess that it may not have been that serious. Quote
Amo Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, philipl said: Qataris had two goes, once with the Trust in 2007 which never became public knowledge and once with the Raos which did. The Australian wasn't called Dan and was worth £7bn at the time he was interested. He was the guy who organised the Sydney Olympics. If the Qataris were serious, the Trust would've bit their hands off. The fact they sold to a bunch of Indian chicken-farmers proves they weren't fussy. 1 Quote
LeftWinger Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Found this interview with Daniel Williams about a proposed takeover in June 2007. The bit in bold and italics is quite the prediction So any takeover would involve substantial funds being made available to the manager to spend in the transfer market? Yes. The institutions we have who are interested in doing this deal - and they have to remain confidential until the very end if we do end up doing a deal - are very, very large investment institutions and you don't make an investment in a Premiership football club without being willing to dig into your pockets, and make money available to ensure the club does well in the Premiership. Say we bought the club for £40m - not that that's the figure - and then said right go out and get us into Europe, we'd probably find ourselves in the Championship, and then League One after that (if we didn't then invest further). https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/1480619.buy-out-bidder-exclusive-interview/ Quote
speeeeeeedie Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, perthblue02 said: Think it was a Soccer club in the US, Rochester or something similar springs to mind 2007 story about the proposed 67 million Rovers takeover LINK Correct. After his failed attempt at Rovers he moved on to the Rochester Rhinos. That one didn't work out either for him. Rochester are currently not playing, they hope to come back next season. 1 Quote
tomphil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Amo said: If the Qataris were serious, the Trust would've bit their hands off. The fact they sold to a bunch of Indian chicken-farmers proves they weren't fussy. With tantric in charge of that one i'm sure many wheels were greased once he'd sweet talked Barry and his shonky friends into it. Quote
philipl Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Amo said: If the Qataris were serious, the Trust would've bit their hands off. The fact they sold to a bunch of Indian chicken-farmers proves they weren't fussy. A lot of water passed under many bridges between 2007 and 2010. If you read the link Vinjay posted, 2007 was the start of the events which lead up to the 2014 judgement. Absolutely no way would the Trust have entertained most of the 2010 bidders in 2007. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, philipl said: Qataris had two goes, once with the Trust in 2007 which never became public knowledge and once with the Raos which did. The Australian wasn't called Dan and was worth £7bn at the time he was interested. He was the guy who organised the Sydney Olympics. Can you discuss in more detail both bids. Was the Australian Michael Knight Did we not play in Austraila in tournement that involved Rangers? Was that part of him getting to know the club? Edited November 5, 2019 by chaddyrovers Quote
tomphil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 I wish he'd come back the Aussies understand football. Quote
Vinjay Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Can you discuss in more detail both bids. Was the Australian Michael Knighy Did we not play in Austraila in tournement that involved Rangers? Was that part of him getting to know the club? Michael Knight chairman of the Sydney organising committee. No mention of billionaire status though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Knight_(Australian_politician) Quote
perthblue02 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Did we not play in Austraila in tournement that involved Rangers? Yes, we also played Sydney If it is the same person who Phillip is aware of as that was part of the Australian consortium (rumours were very strong here and the wealth figure quoted adds up) he and his family were shareholders of Sydney and became major shareholders two years later, sold up this year. The person rumoured to be part of the consortium was Frank Lowy (Westfield Corporation). Also linked to Leeds around the same time Edited November 5, 2019 by perthblue02 2 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, perthblue02 said: Yes, we also played Sydney If it is the same person who Phillip thinks it was as part of the Australian consortium (rumours were very strong here and the wealth figure quoted adds up) he and his family were shareholders of Sydney and became major shareholders two years later, sold up this year. The person rumoured to be part of the consortium was Frank Lowy (Westfield Corporation) Just read up a bit on Sir Frank, amazing story ....... and not to bad a boat.......if only. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, perthblue02 said: Yes, we also played Sydney If it is the same person who Phillip is aware of as that was part of the Australian consortium (rumours were very strong here and the wealth figure quoted adds up) he and his family were shareholders of Sydney and became major shareholders two years later, sold up this year. The person rumoured to be part of the consortium was Frank Lowy (Westfield Corporation). Also linked to Leeds around the same time Thanks for info. Was a bid ever made and did discussion take piece over a bid? Quote
perthblue02 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Just now, chaddyrovers said: Thanks for info. Was a bid ever made and did discussion take piece over a bid? No idea, Phillip will probably know more, rumour is that some people with interests in the Venky's deal going through made sure that was the only option on the table Anyway all water under the bridge now, so anybody got plans for the glorious 10 year anniversary next year wonder if the V's will get the band back together Edited November 5, 2019 by perthblue02 1 Quote
tomphil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, perthblue02 said: No idea, Phillip will probably know more, rumour is that some people with interests in the Venky's deal going through made sure that was the only option on the table Anyway all water under the bridge now, so anybody got plans for the glorious 10 year anniversary next year wonder if the V's will get the band back together Wonder if one of their friends is booking that fleet of Bentleys again ? Quote
perthblue02 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, tomphil said: Wonder if one of their friends is booking that fleet of Bentleys again ? I'll chip in to crowdfunding for the fake snow if mother nature doesn't come to the party 3 Quote
tomphil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, perthblue02 said: I'll chip in to crowdfunding for the fake snow if mother nature doesn't come to the party Ha ha if anyone talks them into coming again it certainly won't be at that time of year ! An end of season dead rubber probably but if it did snow in April/May and they got belted again it's obviously global warming to blame nothing else ? Quote
philipl Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, perthblue02 said: No idea, Phillip will probably know more, rumour is that some people with interests in the Venky's deal going through made sure that was the only option on the table Anyway all water under the bridge now, so anybody got plans for the glorious 10 year anniversary next year wonder if the V's will get the band back together Steve Kean is hated already. If what I hear what he did is true and became public knowledge, it would be him and not Guy Fawkes on the bonfires of Blackburn tonight. 3 Quote
unsall Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 On 21/10/2019 at 15:40, tomphil said: They looked like a made up company anyway. I can assure you they aren’t a made up company, had a box for years but didn’t renew for this season, guy who owns company rarely made an appearance, rather go to the races, but let his friends in every week,who,btw have taken on the box this season, as already said probably got a bit of free advertising this season until signs removed from stand. 1 Quote
Proudtobeblue&white Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, philipl said: Steve Kean is hated already. If what I hear what he did is true and became public knowledge, it would be him and not Guy Fawkes on the bonfires of Blackburn tonight. Do hint! 1 Quote
philipl Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, Proudtobeblue&white said: Do hint! I replied to the post suggesting that efforts were made to ensure the Kentaro-backed Venky's were the only bidders. The Australians were a major threat then they were somehow out of the equation and not because they had done anything or had lost interest apparently. Quote
Proudtobeblue&white Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Interesting....I get the inference. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, philipl said: I replied to the post suggesting that efforts were made to ensure the Kentaro-backed Venky's were the only bidders. The Australians were a major threat then they were somehow out of the equation and not because they had done anything or had lost interest apparently. did you know the Australians bidders personally? Quote
tomphil Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 12 hours ago, philipl said: Steve Kean is hated already. If what I hear what he did is true and became public knowledge, it would be him and not Guy Fawkes on the bonfires of Blackburn tonight. If half of what he allegedly did is true it's no wonder he went hiding as far away as he could. Hopefully something will catch up with him one day, i notice he hasn't had his mates in the media big him up for a while. Apart from that tit on Talkcrap of course. Quote
lraC Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 The people that Kean were connected to, could have caused more damage to BRFC to anyone in the clubs 144 year history. There are lots of little snippets of information all over the place and if anyone who ever backed the cretin, knew what was really going on, then they are almost as bad. Kean made a packet, as did others and if some of what went on wasn't illegal, I will eat my hat. 2 Quote
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