[Archived] Plymouth Away - 3rd February 2018

[Jim Royle]

13 minutes ago, AdamRochina said:

No Payne today then. Idiot 

So says the principle idiot

[blueboy3333]

 

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Give it a rest. Most of us called it before the off and were proved entirely correct. Going like for like Samuel for Graham is hardly a positive move at 2 down either and bringing off Smallwood to protect him from a yellow is tantamount to waving the right flag as far as today's game is concerned.

Mowbray has done well overall recently but that doesn't mean to say he should be exempt from criticism when he gets it wrong.

Also wish Smallwood would get a yellow then the suspension would be out of the way before we get down to the nitty gritty. This trying to nurse him through games without picking up a yellow is not helping us at all.

You called nothing. You just had a whinge about Conway. You called Bennett and Graham all season. You're clueless.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, alcd said:

If it stays as it is - 5 points behind Shrews who show no sign whatsoever of flagging whereas Rovers always need to score at least  2 to win any match. Looks like the play-offs and I don't fancy this lot. Teams that can't defend win nothing.

We're on equal points with Shrews if they only draw. Where do you get 5 behind from?

[Roboftherovers82]

well shrewsbury  still have charlton/scunthopre/bradford  away so i pray they drops points at those but seeing how we played  today i am now worried we will drop points we shudt 

[jim mk2]

 

Northampton our bete noires losing at home to Rochdale last time I looked

[Gogger]

Have we created a single chance this game? How can we not change things up when its clearly not working. mindboggling.

[Al]

Just now, alcd said:

If it stays as it is - 5 points behind Shrews who show no sign whatsoever of flagging whereas Rovers always need to score at least  2 to win any match. Looks like the play-offs and I don't fancy this lot. Teams that can't defend win nothing.

Where are you looking? We are on equal points at the moment.

[Tugay's Right Foot]

There is still no urgency, is there. To be fair, Samuel’s been doing okay since coming on. We need shots to score goals though.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Give it a rest. Most of us called it before the off and were proved entirely correct. Going like for like Samuel for Graham is hardly a positive move at 2 down either and bringing off Smallwood to protect him from a yellow is tantamount to waving the right flag as far as today's game is concerned.

Mowbray has done well overall recently but that doesn't mean to say he should be exempt from criticism when he gets it wrong.

Also wish Smallwood would get a yellow then the suspension would be out of the way before we get down to the nitty gritty. This trying to nurse him through games without picking up a yellow is not helping us at all.

Proved correct - hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it. Before every match TMs selections have been questioned - then people either slip into the background when proved wrong - or come all self righteous when they think they are correct. It sounds like most players are playing poorly today with passes mis placed - don't see how Conway playing would make any difference.

How was Smallwood playing ? Do you know he was taken of to avoid a yellow card - or that having played mid week he thought Evans might bring some energy ?

 

 

[Roboftherovers82]

for  whatever  reason our lads cant  see to preform vs the lower end of the table we dropped way to many  points against those i  rather just play  top 6 evey week

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

 

You called nothing. You just had a whinge about Conway. You called Bennett and Graham all season. You're clueless.

Yet again Mowbray has reacted to a team rather than let them worry about us. I thought he had learnt, the last time he did this was the Oldham game where he thought Ward would help defend against a big donkey.

The guy has got to be positive and take the game to opponents.

Conwy playing was always handing the momentum to Plymouth so was easy to call

[G Somerset Rover]

Just now, Gogger said:

Have we created a single chance this game? How can we not change things up when its clearly not working. mindboggling.

Their keeper has had bugger all to do of note. Not good enough but what do you expect when you pay them too much respect and make subs like that.

[tomphil]

1 minute ago, DE. said:

I guess Samuel's £400k fee plus half decent wages has to be justified somehow. As for Evans, well, if there was a list of people not to bring on when you're chasing a game he'd surely be up near the top.

Honestly while people have been looking at other players lack of contribution I've always been looking at this guy and asking what he brings. Yes it's a pointless exercise keep shunting a big lump of a striker on the wing and that's down to the manager but lack of application is on the player and he isn't a good finisher anyway.

 

[USABlue]

No gonads, like I said protecting the 2-0.  Not going to get it done like this.  Playoffs at best.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Simply awful!

[blueboy3333]

Just now, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Yet again Mowbray has reacted to a team rather than let them worry about us. I thought he had learnt, the last time he did this was the Oldham game where he thought Ward would help defend against a big donkey.

The guy has got to be positive and take the game to opponents.

Conwy playing was always handing the momentum to Plymouth so was easy to call

Conway is responsible for us not being able to defend and everybody else playing shit. Right you are.

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

 

You called nothing. You just had a whinge about Conway. You called Bennett and Graham all season. You're clueless.

I dont think its harsh to say that Bennett has had a poor season.

Hes played most of the season in a natural wide role, and no goals and a couple of assists is quite frankly terrible for a player who last season seemed competent in the level above.

That said, he has had a couple of good all action central performances recently but they are the exception.

[SoldierMo]

So we leave a player on the bench with two assists in last two games brilliant

[roversfan99]

Just now, tomphil said:

Honestly while people have been looking at other players lack of contribution I've always been looking at this guy and asking what he brings. Yes it's a pointless exercise keep shunting a big lump of a striker on the wing and that's down to the manager but lack of application is on the player and he isn't a good finisher anyway.

 

A shocking way to spend 500k.

[DE.]

Just now, tomphil said:

Honestly while people have been looking at other players lack of contribution I've always been looking at this guy and asking what he brings. Yes it's a pointless exercise keep shunting a big lump of a striker on the wing and that's down to the manager but lack of application is on the player and he isn't a good finisher anyway.

I suppose Mowbray saw something in him at Coventry that made him think Samuel could be a useful player at this level. Hasn't really worked out yet and Samuel certainly wouldn't cut in in the Championship, so it wouldn't surprise me if he left in the summer whether we go up or stay down. Depends what we're paying him though!

[USABlue]

Rev is correct, let's have Smallwood get his yellow.  Perfect Mowbary stuff though that isn't it, caution first.

[Al]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Conway is responsible for us not being able to defend and everybody else playing shit. Right you are.

How many times? Conway is not responsible. Mowbray is!

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

 

You called nothing. You just had a whinge about Conway. You called Bennett and Graham all season. You're clueless.

Graham didn't turn up until the end of November and was being called all sorts on here by the majority of the messageboard up to that point.  Bennett has been terrible on the right wing all season and has only shown some form since being moved into the middle. 

A blind man on a gallopping horse can swe Conway is finished. As I've been saying all season it's highly likely Mowbray's over-reliance on his old favourites will cost us.

 

[Roboftherovers82]

i cant see this lot winning the play off team full off bottlers this team is good enough  to walk this  league why is it not cause of tm i tried  to support him but i have had enough this 18 game unbeaten crap just been covering  the cracks

ofc today looks like shrewsbury will drop points and we go and @#/? it up as per normal  never make it  easy for themselves 

[yorkblues]

Start again next week COYB