[Archived] THE BATTLE FOR PROMOTION....WON.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If we'd have won well last night I could have seen Shrewsbury preparing their team for the play-offs in future games. Resting key players or guys with slight injuries. As it is we've thrown them a life line with that half arsed performance.

We are 5 points ahead and its still in our hand..lets not worry just yet

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

Two of our five games are against Peterborough and Charlton too.

I saw most of the Shrewsbury game on Sunday and they didn't play well but a lot of their wins have been by a narrow margin. I said the other day that this could be a pivotal week. Wigan won, we drew and the pressure is back on Shrewsbury who I think will see tomorrow's game as must win. I think we'll know a lot more by 9.45 tomorrow night.

I know that already..watch tomorrow game will be interesting

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I think teams have done it before matey. Maybe a bit nearer the end of the season.

Which teams?

29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

May I ask what exactly Samuel has done, not only this season but in his career, to suggest that he has the ability and talent to score goals regularly at this or indeed Championship level?

No you cant cos we had this Samuel debate before and we just going over the same points. Lets just agree to disagree on this issue. 

[superniko]

I'm not sure if it's already been mentioned but Plymouth in 5th place sit closer to the relegation zone than they do the top 2.

9 points from 5 matches will do it for us. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

21 minutes ago, superniko said:

I'm not sure if it's already been mentioned but Plymouth in 5th place sit closer to the relegation zone than they do the top 2.

9 points from 5 matches will do it for us. 

We're not worried about Plymouth at the  moment.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

37 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We are 5 points ahead and its still in our hand..lets not worry just yet

I know that already..watch tomorrow game will be interesting

Which teams?

No you cant cos we had this Samuel debate before and we just going over the same points. Lets just agree to disagree on this issue. 

Didn't Huddersfield send the second team to Big Club towards the end of last season so they could rest players for the bigger games ?

[superniko]

13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We're not worried about Plymouth at the  moment.

Obviously, it was more a statement about how far ahead the top teams are in this league. Well done for blissfully missing the point. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, superniko said:

Obviously, it was more a statement about how far ahead the top teams are in this league. Well done for blissfully missing the point. 

Well done for stating the blindingly obvious.

[Paul]

5 hours ago, den said:

A number of posters make this point TS. I must be seeing things differently these days, because I thought we looked a better team than Gillingham last night and I thought we ran hard and battled hard. Where we fell down in my opinion, is exactly the opposite to your point that we regularly out skill opponents - last night we didn’t have the quality, we couldn’t find that bit of flair. That’s how the manager saw it as well. I don’t fault them for effort at all, I applaud them for it.

Den can I ask if you went? I didn’t and I haven’t seen iFollow, or whatever it’s called. I’m asking because all I’ve read here is entirely negative, fair enough if this is what people saw, and I’m really interested in this as the counter argument. I think I’ve seen one other similar post which I’ve taken great note of. 

[Paul]

10 hours ago, den said:

Rovers are in a great position. 13 points will see us promoted, even if Shrewsbury win all their last 6 games.

This is exactly how I see it. I was very worried we would lose last night. I felt it was the game in our final six which represented the biggest threat. I would not have been surprised at a 2 or 3 goal defeat. I base this more on gut feeling, long journey etc. than anything else. Obviously I wanted a win as this plus victory at Bristol Rovers would have piled the pressure on to Shrewsbury.

Shrewsbury can’t afford to drop points on Thursday. If they do this will be a huge boost to Rovers in precisely the same manner as many are saying our draw last night was to The Shrews. I feel the 13 points you talk of will be a big ask though I can believe it will happen. Defeat for Shrewsbury and we need 10 points which is very achievable. 

With every game that passes and we remain above our rivals the greater the pressure on them.

The talk is of Shrewsbury winning all six. Their form this season suggests this is highly unlikely with consecutive victories of 3, 4, 2, 2, 2, 3. If I’ve checked this correctly it would take an almost 100% turn around in their general form. No arguing they’re good but 6 in a row? No.

Contrast this with Rovers at 4, 2, 6, 2, 2, 4, 4

For me Shrewsbury’s general form is more variable than Rovers and it’s more likely we will win the 3 or 4 on the bounce which will probably be needed.

I still believe we will go up at Doncaster or Charlton, more likely Charlton. We have tickets for the last four games so whenever it is we will be there. 

[had.e.nuff]

I was looking through the programme from last night at the league table from the original date of the match and it looks a lot better after last nights game .

17/03/2018

1	Blackburn Rovers	37	22	10	5	70	35	35	76
2	Wigan Athletic	34	21	8	5	63	23	40	71
3	Shrewsbury Town	35	21	8	6	47	26	21	71

 

11/04/2018

1	Wigan Athletic	40	26	8	6	81	27	54	86
2	Blackburn Rovers	41	25	11	5	75	36	39	86
3	Shrewsbury Town	40	24	9	7	55	33	22	81

[den]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

Den can I ask if you went? I didn’t and I haven’t seen iFollow, or whatever it’s called. I’m asking because all I’ve read here is entirely negative, fair enough if this is what people saw, and I’m really interested in this as the counter argument. I think I’ve seen one other similar post which I’ve taken great note of. 

Watched it on ifollow Paul.

[Paul]

Form:

Rovers

L L W W W W L D W W L D W D D W W W W W W D W D D W W D W W D W W W W D W W W W D

Shrewsbury

W W W D W W W W D W W D D W W L W L L D W W D W W L D W W L W L D W W W D W L W

[blueboy3333]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

Den can I ask if you went? I didn’t and I haven’t seen iFollow, or whatever it’s called. I’m asking because all I’ve read here is entirely negative, fair enough if this is what people saw, and I’m really interested in this as the counter argument. I think I’ve seen one other similar post which I’ve taken great note of. 

You've taken great note of the post you want to believe because it's positive but ignored the negativity that doesn't suit? Even though you didn't see the game? You're close to having an agenda....

[Cherry Blue]

23 hours ago, had.e.nuff said:

I was looking through the programme from last night at the league table from the original date of the match and it looks a lot better after last nights game .

17/03/2018

1	Blackburn Rovers	37	22	10	5	70	35	35	76
2	Wigan Athletic	34	21	8	5	63	23	40	71
3	Shrewsbury Town	35	21	8	6	47	26	21	71

 

11/04/2018

1	Wigan Athletic	40	26	8	6	81	27	54	86
2	Blackburn Rovers	41	25	11	5	75	36	39	86
3	Shrewsbury Town	40	24	9	7	55	33	22	81

You make a good point had.e.nuff.

Wigan had 3 games in hand over us and could have gone 4 points clear. As at now they can only go 3 points ahead if they win their 1 game in hand.

Shrews (come on Bradford!!) had 2 games in hand and could have gone 1 point clear. Now they have game in hand and could be 2 points behind with inferior goal difference.

23 hours ago, Paul said:

Form:

Rovers

L L W W W W L D W W L D W D D W W W W W W D W D D W W D W W D W W W W D W W W W D

Shrewsbury

W W W D W W W W D W W D D W W L W L L D W W D W W L D W W L W L D W W W D W L W

Most Shrews (come on Bradford!!!) have won in a row is 4 and only on 1 occasion. We've done 6 in a row with 3 lots of 4s.

Trying to convince myself that we are still going up but a Bradford win on Thursday would be a massive boost.

[Paul]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

You've taken great note of the post you want to believe because it's positive but ignored the negativity that doesn't suit? Even though you didn't see the game? You're close to having an agenda....

Where did I say I "want to believe" Den's opinion? I said I was interested in the "counter argument." I also said I've taken great note of a poster who I know has a deep knowledge of the game and was there. I asked Den if he went because I've heard him talk, in real life, about football on numerous occasions and I value his opinion based on the knowledge I know he has. 

There is nothing in this to suggest I want to believe what these two posters have to say but I have very much taken on board their opinions. Many of the other posts surrounding last night are from people I don't know, they could be ones with agendas.

Generally I associate "having an agenda" as a rather negative turn of phrase. I'm struggling to understand why I should be feeling negative. As you have chosen, again, to suggest words which I didn't write I have the feeling the person who is close to having an agenda is not me.

[Oldgregg86]

On 4/10/2018 at 11:53, Bbrovers2288 said:

Carttermole without doubt is an upgrade on anything we have defensively in midfield. Some of you need to open your eyes with Smallwood, after an initial bright start he has faded badly to become one of our worst and least effective players, if he stays it’s for a sub place. Can I remind you he couldn’t secure a place in the same Rotherham team that went down without a whimper. Should’ve said Whittingham to be going too. We need a mixture of steel and experience badly, team just now is far too lightweight, as Wigan showed when they eventually overpowered us.

think u will find the majority of that list are either out of contract or being relegated. Mcgeady wouldn’t have been mega bucks at Preston for example. 

Funnily enough the ones u said weren’t ridiculous - the pboro lads- are the most expensive quoted. Go figure. 

As for Hanley, if you believe he is a good defender then god help you, the Aberdeen boy has took his place in Scotland team and ten times better.

those thinking that’s a 50 mill budget don’t know football and I said those are players to enquire about not sign them all. So clearly didn’t understand post. For the record I don’t play football manager

You should. Don't forget to add a manger and release all the Burnley players before  you start

[Vinjay]

Yeah not like you have ever censored me for attacking the Walker Family before hiding that post the other day. Just a one off right? No agenda! 

 

 

[Oldgregg86]

4 hours ago, Paul said:

Den can I ask if you went? I didn’t and I haven’t seen iFollow, or whatever it’s called. I’m asking because all I’ve read here is entirely negative, fair enough if this is what people saw, and I’m really interested in this as the counter argument. I think I’ve seen one other similar post which I’ve taken great note of. 

I did and it was garbage. Take my word for it 

[Rover_Shaun]

Pure unadulterated garbage. A waste of a good Facebook stream 

[Vinjay]

Just read the excuse for taking Dack off. What nonsense. I guess he's feels it's "honest" but that's what makes it annoying! I can't stand any form of mental weakness especially when it's flaunted so casually. I don't know if Dack felt that way or not. Maybe Mowbray thought he did even if it was subconsciously. In Dack's position I would be tempted to come out and express disagreement but suppose we don't need any arguments at the moment between players/management. 

[blueboy3333]

40 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:

I did and it was garbage. Take my word for it 

Don't be negative. We are always brilliant. 

[den]

11 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Don't be negative. We are always brilliant. 

A bit OTT.

No one has said it was brilliant, no one has said it was good. For me we were the better of the two teams last night. That means what it means. We were and are a better team than Gillingham. The main point I was making was that our problem - and the reason we didn’t win the game, was that we simply didn’t/couldn’t create enough, or play well enough - but we were superior to Gillingham on the night. It’s been said that we lacked the effort which I totally reject. I saw plenty of effort/endeavour and plenty of graft, but we couldn’t direct it in the right direction. There are a lot of fans who always relate a poor performance with the team not trying. It happens all the time, but IMO it’s rarely the case. As for lack of effort last night, I can’t think of one single reason why a team that’s top of the league with 6 games to go and with three teams playing for two places wouldn’t run their socks off. They did. It’s easier though just to say it was crap.

[Oldgregg86]

As a spectacle it was worse than crap however I won't dig them out on effort. I thought mowbray got it tactically wrong yesterday and made poor substitions. I agree we are a far superior side to Gillingham making it all the more frustrating. The biggest problem Imo  was the tempo the game was played at. It was far to laboured and slow. The big guy at the back for the gills who got Mom won everything and when Graham went off we where still pinging high balls over the top. I would of started Payne and brought dack on for the last half an hour to give the team a boost and scare the opposition. If your bringing Samuel on he has to play up top and not out wide. After the subs I will be honest and say I wasn't sure who was playing where And what mowbray was attempting to achieve. He got this one badly wrong but I won't beat him with a stick for it. The effort was their and I'm sure he will put it right for Saturdays game and for the Williams bashers out there he had another good game yesterday

 

[47er]

5 hours ago, Paul said:

As you have chosen, again, to suggest words which I didn't write I have the feeling the person who is close to having an agenda is not me.

I didn't write that I wanted TM sacked in the summer but you addressed my post  on the basis that I did!

What goes around comes around eh?!!!!! 

[Paul]

5 hours ago, 47er said:

I didn't write that I wanted TM sacked in the summer but you addressed my post  on the basis that I did!

What goes around comes around eh?!!!!! 

If you say so. Your post, as I recall as I’m not going to look for it, was open to interpretation mainly, in my view, that you don’t see Mowbray as our long term manager. That’s how I read it and that is what I explained. 

The difference is I didn’t criticise you only saying what I understood. I didn’t accuse you of having an agenda etc.

I asked den his a question about his opposite view to the vast majority. Nothing else. It’s hard to understand why people get so exercised about this - unless of course they are the ones with an agenda.

Last comment on this for me as this type of exchange achieves nothing. 

[chaddyrovers]

Dack fit for Saturday game

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/16152806.Bradley_Dack_will_be_fit_for_Bristol_Rovers_trip__admits_Tony_Mowbray/