Mattyblue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) The main reason folk bought 1875 membership was to get first dibs for small allocation away days at new grounds. Fleetwood, Bristol Rovers and Wimbledon being the main three - though in the end two out of the three went to general sale anyway! This won’t be an issue anywhere in the Championship (definitely not at the prices you get charged) so good luck flogging memberships. Edited May 4, 2018 by Mattyblue 2 Quote
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JHRover Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said: On another note, i read that the 1875 membership has gone up from £5 to £10 for season ticket holders next season, with only the £5 paid back as club cash. Just now, Mattyblue said: The main reason folk bought 1875 membership was to get first dibs for small allocation away days at new grounds. Fleetwood, Bristol Rovers and Wimbledon being the main three - though two out of the three went to general sale anyway! This won’t be an issue anywhere in the Championship (definitely not at the prices you get charged) so good luck flogging memberships. Yep, the reason I bought it was purely to be eligible for 1st dibs on away tickets. Given nowhere (except maybe Burton/Shrewsbury at a push) will get snapped up by members only I might not bother. The club cash thing was a waste of time for me, if I could have put it towards this season ticket I'd have been quite happy with a £50 rise if £25 was covered by the club cash. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Can't believe what I' m reading above. Firstly there's no justification whatsoever for reduced price season tickets for under 25's many of whom will be working. Secondly these early bird prices will presumably be cheaper than this seasons "standard" prices when the discount period expires. Honestly, some people expect the Club to go out and spend 10-15m on players but in the next breath expect the tickets to be virtually given away. You never understood about the U25's, just as you never understood about making walk-on tickets cheaper for the run-in. It wouldn't make a difference you said. Tomorrrow's gate has got an answer for you. For your last line you've strayed into Worzel Gummidge territory. I'll leave you to your confusion.... Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Pricing is good but bad move in that respect. No it isn't. Not if you want to fill the ground. Gummidge mode on - Honestly, some people expect fans from a poor town to fork out a small fortune to watch average football and then wonder why there aren't 100,000 on every week. Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted May 4, 2018 Backroom Posted May 4, 2018 Club should look to grab some initiative in rewarding our remarkable away support. Could be done by implementing our own 'Twenty's Plenty' campaign to fans who went to 5 or more away games: Whatever the cost of a ticket to an away game, anything over £20 is covered by the club. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Firstly, would be a total supporter of the prospect of safe standing. Shrewsbury I believe are implementing it. They, like a lot of clubs, are also implementing cheap tickets for U25's. Our club isn't clever enough. 1 Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, tomphil said: Why do people fixate on the maximum possible walk on price? It's quite simple really, you pays your money (or you don't pay) at the start of the season and you takes your choice! FFS! Because some people can't afford/justify a ST. Quote
tomphil Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, blueboy3333 said: FFS! Because some people can't afford/justify a ST. They can damn well turn up with their ST holding mate/brother/wife/son etc then toddle off and sit in a cheaper part of the ground if they haven't got the means to turn up every week or pay top dollar then Quote
old darwen blue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 And we all forget why there are home fans in the Darwen End. This was a decision by the club to get a group of singing supporters at both ends of the ground as it should be. Remember Selhurst in 89 when Palace were behind both goals and we were shoved in that corner? It helped them that day and who can deny that Rovers support being in the Darwen End hasn't helped our home form this season? Pass the word around the Darren End tomorrow lads n lasses, operation takeover the Jack Walker Lower soon to be launched. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, tomphil said: They can damn well turn up with their ST holding mate/brother/wife/son etc then toddle off and sit in a cheaper part of the ground if they haven't got the means to turn up every week or pay top dollar then They should have a 'poor people's' ticket scheme where the peasants are made to wash dishes for the Ribble Valley Set (and Rev) at the £120 buffet in exchange for a stamp in a book. Get 20 stamps and you get 50p off a £30 ticket to watch us against Wigan in a mid-table Championship battle on a Tuesday night in January. At half-time you'll be walked around the ground in leg-irons to be laughed at. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, meadows said: Both, you won’t get an adult ST at Deepdale for less than £400. Unless they drastically change tack next time. And the crowds at North End are dreadful, even though they are having their best season for years. 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Just now, blueboy3333 said: No it isn't. Not if you want to fill the ground. Gummidge mode on - Honestly, some people expect fans from a poor town to fork out a small fortune to watch average football and then wonder why there aren't 100,000 on every week. If you think £319 per season to watch football is a '"small fortune" there's obviously no point debating the subject further as you're not prepared to take it seriously. That works out at just £35 p.m. on direct debit and anyone who Can't afford that or isn't prepared to spend a bit less on other aspects of their socialising should not be thinking about wasting money on football but spending their money on essentials like food and household bills instead. Same with the comment about the 1875 membership going up to £10 above. Are we actually moaning about what is effectively a fiver for ticket priority if needed for a big game and which may still entitle the holder to a match by match discount on walk on prices? Never a truer word spoken than by Gordon years ago. Edited May 4, 2018 by RevidgeBlue Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: That works out at just £35 p.m. on direct debit anyone who Can't afford that or isn't prepared to spend a bit less on other aspects of their socialising should not be thinking about wasting money on football but spending their money on essentials like food and household bills instead. Football for the rich. You appal me. Edited May 4, 2018 by blueboy3333 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, blueboy3333 said: Football for the rich. You appall me. Football for the working. Being able to afford £35 p.m. hardly qualifies you as rich. I wouldn't actually be opposed to very cheap tickets to anyone who is out of work for whatever reason either. Certainly a much better idea than rolling out cheap tickets to 25 year olds who are working. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, blueboy3333 said: They should have a 'poor people's' ticket scheme where the peasants are made to wash dishes for the Ribble Valley Set (and Rev) at the £120 buffet in exchange for a stamp in a book. Get 20 stamps and you get 50p off a £30 ticket to watch us against Wigan in a mid-table Championship battle on a Tuesday night in January. At half-time you'll be walked around the ground in leg-irons to be laughed at. Don't be silly. A £30 ticket must be worth at least 40 stamps. 1 Quote
blueboy3333 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: Football for the working ....and the working can't afford it. They need to buy essentials and can't justify a £400k ST. You're out of touch. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, blueboy3333 said: ....and the working can't afford it. They need to buy essentials and can't justify a £400k ST. You're out of touch. FFS. It's not £400 up front. I couldn't justify that myself. It's from as little as £35 p.m. on DD. Quote
47er Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Mattyblue said: So there will be 20,000 avaliable home seats - Jack Walker, Riverside and BBEnd lower. Suppose it makes sense to have the 11/12000 home fans in a smaller area. Less scattered. I assume the rise in ST prices will also mean matchday prices also increase, so get ready for £30 walk-on prices. As seen with the 1875 Lounge, the £120 per person end of season dinner etc, Waggott is going to try and squeeze out every penny - however I worry that he has misjudged our fanbase and we won’t see much, if any increase in ST holders. When we were at our peak in the Jack Walker days, ticket prices rose enormously. The thinking was "we have all these top international players on massive wages, we're at the top of the world's most-watched league, you should be prepared to pay just about anything we ask. Don't be ungrateful". What was not understood was that people didn't pay because they couldn't pay. It was as simple as that. The area didn't and doesn't have the career jobs and salaries to create that amount of discretionary income for many. So we had the utter embarrassment of our first ever Champions League game attracting a Third Division size crowd and the Club rushing around handing out free tickets to schools the day before. The lessons were learned by John Williams and Co but are being forgotten again. 1 Quote
barry_ Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 Very disappointing to see that the DE is finished for home fans. I've thought on this for a few hours since I heard the news and it really feels like an end to me buying a Season Ticket When you add that to the ridiculous increase in prices, it's like the idiots who are now running the club could care less about the fan base. Quote
JBiz Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, barry_ said: Very disappointing to see that the DE is finished for home fans. I've thought on this for a few hours since I heard the news and it really feels like an end to me buying a Season Ticket When you add that to the ridiculous increase in prices, it's like the idiots who are now running the club could care less about the fan base. The prices are frozen. Ridiculous increase in price? I agree with a few others that DE fans would be better absorbed into the rest of the ground for atmosphere, and it’s hard to justify opening it to home fans if there’s only a couple of hundred for 2000 seats. Thats not saying I don’t have some empathy for those forced to move, maybe the club could offer to allow an unreserved swap pre-game if the opposition doesn’t sell more than a 1/4 of the DE. I doubt they will though through stewarding costs. One aspect that I do think is beneficial (although some will disagree) is we can sell huge numbers of away tickets to help bolster the turnover, in a way a lot of teams in the championship cannot. It’s an advantage. Three or four 7000 x £30 quid occasions over the first half of the season could technically be another “Dack” if invested wisely. I agree that the atmosphere helps the opposition but I’d like to think many of the 10000 extra fans today might come and regularly support the team again next season. Financially and vocally, we would benefit from it. On the prices for ST’s overall, I too can’t help but think they’ve missed an opportunity to get u21s or “young-adults” re-engaged. Still cannot complain about value though. About £16 a game.. Quote
Stuart Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Biz said: The prices are frozen. Ridiculous increase in price? I agree with a few others that DE fans would be better absorbed into the rest of the ground for atmosphere, and it’s hard to justify opening it to home fans if there’s only a couple of hundred for 2000 seats. Thats not saying I don’t have some empathy for those forced to move, maybe the club could offer to allow an unreserved swap pre-game if the opposition doesn’t sell more than a 1/4 of the DE. I doubt they will though through stewarding costs. One aspect that I do think is beneficial (although some will disagree) is we can sell huge numbers of away tickets to help bolster the turnover, in a way a lot of teams in the championship cannot. It’s an advantage. Three or four 7000 x £30 quid occasions over the first half of the season could technically be another “Dack” if invested wisely. I agree that the atmosphere helps the opposition but I’d like to think many of the 10000 extra fans today might come and regularly support the team again next season. Financially and vocally, we would benefit from it. On the prices for ST’s overall, I too can’t help but think they’ve missed an opportunity to get u21s or “young-adults” re-engaged. Still cannot complain about value though. About £16 a game.. Some good points. I think if the DE had been full to bursting with home fans every week with then they wouldn’t have closed it. It should also be noted though that this has been our lowest ST / attended season for many years, not just the DE but all over the ground. The club could still have capitalised on the (few) revenue opportunities by moving the DE for three or four games like they always used to so that shouldn’t be cited as a reason. Giving 18 or 19 opportunities to move back there is counter-intuitive and creates more admin and likely less demand. Losing an unreserved seating area is a backward step but if they don’t want to keep the DE going then they are going to have to upset even more fans to do it. In a season of “customer service” awards galore for the club they have dealt with this badly. Quote
Mattyblue Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 Frozen? My season ticket will cost me £50 more. Quote
JBiz Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Frozen? My season ticket will cost me £50 more. Oh I get you, if you purchased at last years EB Quote
Backroom Tom Posted May 5, 2018 Backroom Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Biz said: Oh I get you, if you purchased at last years EB Which I would guess 90% of folk did Quote
Stuart Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Frozen? My season ticket will cost me £50 more. Thanks for supporting the club, without hesitation, post-relegation last year Matty. Your unflinching loyalty and support was one of the key factors that promotion was built on. The club, manager and players have been saying so all season. Now pay up. 2 Quote
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