tomphil Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Our current squad, some of the under 23s and four 5 million pound players(2 wingers, centre mid and a striker). That's promotion right there Are we being taken over ? Do you know something we don't
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Bigdoggsteel Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, tomphil said: Are we being taken over ? Do you know something we don't Some hypothetical scenarios laid out in the podcast got me dreamin!
mode_m Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 budgets for all the Championship clubs this year: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-much-every-championship-side-12387769 Wolves squad wasn't the most expensive by some margin.
Backroom DE. Posted April 19, 2018 Backroom Posted April 19, 2018 Ipswich 20th out of 24, and people don't think Mick has done a good job? Ridiculous. Also fair play to Millwall and Preston, fantastic seasons for both considering their expenditure.
perthblue02 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, mode_m said: budgets for all the Championship clubs this year: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-much-every-championship-side-12387769 Wolves squad wasn't the most expensive by some margin. Bet that doesn't include 3rd party and Agent fees
mode_m Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, perthblue02 said: Bet that doesn't include 3rd party and Agent fees or trips to McDonald's
47er Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 13 hours ago, DE. said: If the transfer money is't there we won't have much choice, although Mowbray seems loathe to use many of our youth prospects which may not bode well for anybody expecting our youngsters to be blooded. As you say, he won't have any choice.
RevidgeBlue Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Very negative reaction on here to what was essentially a very positive article. I hadn' t seen the LT article as I've been away for a few days on holiday but was told essentially the same tonight by someone in the know - I.e. that we already knew which players we wanted should we go up and Mike Cheston had been given a list by the manager. I took this as an extremely positive sign of more seemingly joined up thinking following the relatively normal and sensible happenings last summer which seem about to bear fruit.
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 7 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Very negative reaction on here to what was essentially a very positive article. I hadn' t seen the LT article as I've been away for a few days on holiday but was told essentially the same tonight by someone in the know - I.e. that we already knew which players we wanted should we go up and Mike Cheston had been given a list by the manager. I took this as an extremely positive sign of more seemingly joined up thinking following the relatively normal and sensible happenings last summer which seem about to bear fruit. The most recent BRFCS podcast paints a more positive picture that some on here are claiming also
bluefred Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 I CANT BELIEVE IM WRITING THIS, but after listening to the latest podcast, it seems Venkys are going to be our best owners we could hope for at this time .I know they have made monumental mistakes with this football club and I as much as anyone have venomously hated them for what they done to my club after all the work JACK WALKER had done to make us a top team in England , after the best I as a supporter of this club since 1970 could hope for would be to be playing BURNLEY in a local derby or drawing top 1st division team in the cup . I urge any fan who hasn’t listened to it do so now , it’s very enlightening especially the accounts section. COMMON YOU BLUES - ONE TEAM ONE CLUB -WE ALL STAND TOGETHER........
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, bluefred said: I CANT BELIEVE IM WRITING THIS, but after listening to the latest podcast, it seems Venkys are going to be our best owners we could hope for at this time .I know they have made monumental mistakes with this football club and I as much as anyone have venomously hated them for what they done to my club after all the work JACK WALKER had done to make us a top team in England , after the best I as a supporter of this club since 1970 could hope for would be to be playing BURNLEY in a local derby or drawing top 1st division team in the cup . I urge any fan who hasn’t listened to it do so now , it’s very enlightening especially the accounts section. COMMON YOU BLUES - ONE TEAM ONE CLUB -WE ALL STAND TOGETHER........ Great, isn't it? When you hear the amount of money they have put and continue to do so, it does paint them in a positive light. Now, will they roll the dice and try and turn 20 million into 200 million? It seems like the best option
des Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 if/when we go up the money needed to change the team around will be quite high I hope the investment is in place
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Great, isn't it? When you hear the amount of money they have put and continue to do so, it does paint them in a positive light. Now, will they roll the dice and try and turn 20 million into 200 million? It seems like the best option Think of what is the most sensible thing to do. Then expect the opposite, that's what the Chicken Chokers normally do.
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Think if what is the most sensible thing to do. Then expect the opposite, that's what the Chicken Chokers normally do. Did you listen to the podcast? Well worth a listen Club is being well run now. Promotion at a perfect time
Oldgregg86 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 I think alot of people are getting carried away over very little. This is the venkys where talking about. It's going to take alot more than a promotion out of league 1, 10 months of stability and a podcast to let me trust anything they do
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Oldgregg86 said: I think alot of people are getting carried away over very little. This is the venkys where talking about. It's going to take alot more than a promotion out of league 1, 10 months of stability and a podcast to let me trust anything they do Have you listened to the podcast?
Oldgregg86 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Have you listened to the podcast? Twice Have you seen what the venkys have been doing since 2012
imy9 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Sorry if this is a really daft question but where can I find the podcasts? edit- found it, thanks!
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: Twice Have you seen what the venkys have been doing since 2012 Why did you listen to it twice??
Fraserkirky Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: Twice Have you seen what the venkys have been doing since 2012 That’s not the point The have bankrolled their errors with their own cash. Now we are in a financial position where we aren’t losing money hand over fist. Phillip I think was the one on the podcast, said they are use to putting in 10-20m a season just to keep us going. Might not need to do that this year. Give it Tony and see if he can build a team challenging to get into the playoffs. If we somehow got promoted then Venkys could get most of their money back which is crazy to imagine.
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Fraserkirky said: That’s not the point The have bankrolled their errors with their own cash. Now we are in a financial position where we aren’t losing money hand over fist. Phillip I think was the one on the podcast, said they are use to putting in 10-20m a season just to keep us going. Might not need to do that this year. Give it Tony and see if he can build a team challenging to get into the playoffs. If we somehow got promoted then Venkys could get most of their money back which is crazy to imagine. That's it. Like it or not, mistakes included they have put in serious wedge. I'd say it is pride. Whatever the reason, the next few months are a huge opportunity to atone for their sins , by putting in even more wedge! In for a Penny, in for a pound. They have committed so much the only logical thing is to roll the dice and go for the premiership. Financially threading water in the championship makes no sense They can get around ffp up until the end of June. Lets see
Dreams of 1995 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 You must be completely insane to start classing Venkys as "good owners" on the back of an expected promotion from a league we find themselves in on the back of their decisions. I can't believe what I am reading.
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Dreams of 1995 said: You must be completely insane to start classing Venkys as "good owners" on the back of an expected promotion from a league we find themselves in on the back of their decisions. I can't believe what I am reading. Never said they were good owners. I didn't read anyone else say it either. They have put huge money in. We are stuck with them and they are stuck with us. They are putting money in and that is more than can be said of a lot of other owners
Dreams of 1995 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Never said they were good owners. I didn't read anyone else say it either. They have put huge money in. We are stuck with them and they are stuck with us. They are putting money in and that is more than can be said of a lot of other owners What other owners? Every single club owner puts the required money in for the club to operate. What they are doing is nothing special, nor is it anything to class them as "the best owners we could hope for at this time" as someone you have quoted has said. I'd assume the "best we can hope for" means the same as "good owners" wouldn't you? They have put money in because of their own bad decisions. They hounded out every single experienced football director we had and changed the club from the top down. We have been without a proper board structure since they came and have continued in our downturn spiral. Over the course of 7 years they have cast aside any ambition, failed to remotely understand the culture of Rovers and Rovers fans and point blank refused to communicate with any single point of fan authority to the extreme of appointing a 'shadow director' that is hidden from public. BDS, I challenge you, please, to point out something that they are doing or have done that qualifies them for the phrase "best possible owners we could hope for". Every fan in the country, whether they care or not, knows that Venkys have been some of the worst owners an English football club has ever had.
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Dreams of 1995 said: What other owners? Every single club owner puts the required money in for the club to operate. What they are doing is nothing special, nor is it anything to class them as "the best owners we could hope for at this time" as someone you have quoted has said. I'd assume the "best we can hope for" means the same as "good owners" wouldn't you? They have put money in because of their own bad decisions. They hounded out every single experienced football director we had and changed the club from the top down. We have been without a proper board structure since they came and have continued in our downturn spiral. Over the course of 7 years they have cast aside any ambition, failed to remotely understand the culture of Rovers and Rovers fans and point blank refused to communicate with any single point of fan authority to the extreme of appointing a 'shadow director' that is hidden from public. BDS, I challenge you, please, to point out something that they are doing or have done that qualifies them for the phrase "best possible owners we could hope for". Every fan in the country, whether they care or not, knows that Venkys have been some of the worst owners an English football club has ever had. I didn't say they were the best possible owners we should hope for, so why do I have to qualify it? I bet we will spend more this summer than a lot of clubs in the championship. They aren't going anywhere, so I would see that as a positive. Would you not? Them putting money in, not not leaving. I would love if they sold up You don't need to tell me the damage that has been done since they took over
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