islander200 Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Jesus they did well to get him for 3 million do. Would wolves not keep him if he was so good? When did Bamford win player of the season? Wolves brought in Castro from Athletico Madrid on a season long loan I presume as first choice lb/wing back so I presume Douglas didn't want to be on bench. Cracking signing for Leeds and at 3 million a bargain in today's market Quote
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Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted July 29, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: No, he hasn't done more than Dack. Winning league 1 player of the year twice is better than being a championship journeyman Championship journeyman is a bit disngenous. With an average of 1 in 3 for teams at the top end of the table and also having had PL loans, says he’s a better player. Dack hasn’t even played in the Championship yet...(admittedly that will change in a week’s time). I love Bradley Dack as much as anyone, but Christ, I’m also a realist and not that biased! Edited July 29, 2018 by K-Hod 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Jesus they did well to get him for 3 million do. Would wolves not keep him if he was so good? When did Bamford win player of the season? 9 minutes ago, islander200 said: Wolves brought in Castro from Athletico Madrid on a season long loan I presume as first choice lb/wing back so I presume Douglas didn't want to be on bench. Cracking signing for Leeds and at 3 million a bargain in today's market Yeah he said he was told he didnt have a future, according to a post he put on social media after the transfer went through. Bamford won the player of the season in 2015. Edited July 29, 2018 by roversfan99 1 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Bamford would of been a dream signing and one to get really excited about. Quote
LDRover Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: A left back and an unproven striker massively improve them? They must have been bad last season Unproven? Bamford has scored for fun fun in this league before. 7 million is overpriced but he's quality at Championship level. Especially when you consider Newcastle want 3 million for Armstrong who is most definitely unproven at this level. 1 Quote
Blueandwhitemike Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: No, he hasn't done more than Dack. Winning league 1 player of the year twice is better than being a championship journeyman That's just stupid, just going by the stats, Bamford scored 14 in 23 in L1 with MK Dons and followed by another 8 in 21 in the Championship for Derby = 22 league goals that season. He followed that with 18 in 38 in the Championship for Boro. If Dack can do that this season (difficult but not impossible) that'd be amazing, no? Not sure how you can say doing anything at a lower level is better. 7m is a lot of money, especially as he hasn't been amazing since then but if you've seen him play he's got real talent, someone I have enjoyed watching in the past as I like skillful players, a journeyman he most certainly is not. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 5 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Yeah he said he was told he didnt have a future, according to a post he put on social media after the transfer went through. Bamford won the player of the season in 2015. Championship player of the season? Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Championship player of the season? Yeah Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Yeah Wow, I didn't realise that. Fair play Quote
Backroom DE. Posted July 29, 2018 Backroom Posted July 29, 2018 The last time we were in this league we were able to make a push for the playoffs buying players for less than £3m - usually far less. Times have certainly changed, and very quickly too. Spending big money in the Championship is high risk due to the lack of TV money relative to the PL. Obviously it all works out if you get there, but if not... Regardless, as long as there are enough owners willing to throw money into the black hole of English football we're going to find it increasingly difficult to compete. For better or worse Venky's aren't the type of owners willing to throw money at the club, so the only other way to compete in this league without much of a budget is to already have a solid base of decent players and a manager who can get the absolute best out of every signing. We'll see soon enough if Mowbray and our squad is up to the task. Quote
Husky Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: No, he hasn't done more than Dack. Winning league 1 player of the year twice is better than being a championship journeyman It's certainly more difficult being a stand out player in an average team rather than being an average player with good players helping make you look better than you are (a la Deli Ali). Quote
davulsukur Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 Bolton signed 2 players today, albeit one for free but the other was for a fee, no idea how much. Things can’t be that bad there otherwise these players wouldn’t be joining. Noticed The Brummies are under an embargo again (still?) Quote
JHRover Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Bolton signed 2 players today, albeit one for free but the other was for a fee, no idea how much. Things can’t be that bad there otherwise these players wouldn’t be joining. Noticed The Brummies are under an embargo again (still?) Interesting that it has finally emerged via Birmingham's website that they are not allowed to sign any players. Don't think they concede they are in an official embargo, just that the League are not approving any transfers, and that they are working with the League to resolve the situation, no indication given as to how long the embargo is for or what they have to do to lift it. Also no mention from the League themselves what is happening, in stark contrast to the blaze of publicity they made when Rovers were under an embargo. Also odd that Bolton are now paying money out despite being in dispute with players over unpaid wages and bonuses and QPR are rumoured to be trying to sign Jackson from Stanley for more than £1 million. If ever 2 clubs should be embargoed it is those 2. Whole thing stinks. A Birmingham fan messaged me earlier saying 12+ Championship clubs have broken the rules but only 4 have been embargoed, so that's 3 beyond Birmingham. No idea who they are but would assume on business done so far that 2 of them are Villa and Sheffield Wednesday. Quote
JeffRover Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, JHRover said: Interesting that it has finally emerged via Birmingham's website that they are not allowed to sign any players. Don't think they concede they are in an official embargo, just that the League are not approving any transfers, and that they are working with the League to resolve the situation, no indication given as to how long the embargo is for or what they have to do to lift it. Also no mention from the League themselves what is happening, in stark contrast to the blaze of publicity they made when Rovers were under an embargo. Also odd that Bolton are now paying money out despite being in dispute with players over unpaid wages and bonuses and QPR are rumoured to be trying to sign Jackson from Stanley for more than £1 million. If ever 2 clubs should be embargoed it is those 2. Whole thing stinks. A Birmingham fan messaged me earlier saying 12+ Championship clubs have broken the rules but only 4 have been embargoed, so that's 3 beyond Birmingham. No idea who they are but would assume on business done so far that 2 of them are Villa and Sheffield Wednesday. I’d heard that Wednesday had been embargoed on the sly and the club aren’t telling the fans. Quote
davulsukur Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, JeffRover said: I’d heard that Wednesday had been embargoed on the sly and the club aren’t telling the fans. There is no way these embargo’s should be allowed to kept a secret from the fans. Should be statements from the league and the club. Doesn’t surprise me that they are though. Quote
roverandout Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Husky said: It's certainly more difficult being a stand out player in an average team rather than being an average player with good players helping make you look better than you are (a la Deli Ali). I wouldnt call ali average..hes a very good player who has scored some crucial goals for spurs 2 Quote
islander200 Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 Nixon is saying on Twitter that the league will be revealing embargoed clubs on Wednesday Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 5 hours ago, islander200 said: Nixon is saying on Twitter that the league will be revealing embargoed clubs on Wednesday The EFL excelling in their full time job working for the PL in trying to ensure only 'approved' big clubs or any club from London get promoted. Cardiff must have pissed them off big time. It's a slow process and will take up to 5 years more. The PL 1 & 2, 1 up 1 down, no relegation from PL 2 or on a member vote basis. If you're not in the loop you're in the poop. Harvey wants to boss PL 2 and get the full monty tv exposure financial bonanza. When international markets are fully penetrated one solution is to increase the product range, works well in the less informed guillible markets. Quote
Stuart Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, AllRoverAsia said: The EFL excelling in their full time job working for the PL in trying to ensure only 'approved' big clubs or any club from London get promoted. Cardiff must have pissed them off big time. It's a slow process and will take up to 5 years more. The PL 1 & 2, 1 up 1 down, no relegation from PL 2 or on a member vote basis. If you're not in the loop you're in the poop. Harvey wants to boss PL 2 and get the full monty tv exposure financial bonanza. When international markets are fully penetrated one solution is to increase the product range, works well in the less informed guillible markets. European Super League will come first. Just look at the International Champions Cup... Quote
Mattyblue Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Aye, the Man Utd hierarchy would have been crying into their networking breakfasts hearing Mourinho’s comments... Quote
JHRover Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 9 hours ago, islander200 said: Nixon is saying on Twitter that the league will be revealing embargoed clubs on Wednesday I suppose we'll never find out why it has taken until August to announce embargoed clubs with less than a week of the window remaining. What's the point in even announcing it at this late stage? 1 Quote
scotchrover Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11451244/sky-bet-championship-201819-your-big-season-preview We’re not talked about as relegation candidates. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Seen a few previews tipping us as 'dark horses'. I'd be delighted for a Milwall-esque season. Was their squad, even with how weak ours looks outside the starting XI any better than ours? Lets hope this 'momentum' thing does its trick and we avoid injuries for once... Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 57 minutes ago, scotchrover said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11451244/sky-bet-championship-201819-your-big-season-preview We’re not talked about as relegation candidates. We are right under the radar! 1 Quote
scotchrover Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Seen a few previews tipping us as 'dark horses'. I'd be delighted for a Milwall-esque season. Was their squad, even with how weak ours looks outside the starting XI any better than ours? Lets hope this 'momentum' thing does its trick and we avoid injuries for once... I think ours is better. Millwall sneaked into the play-offs if I remember rightly, right at the end. They didn’t walk the league like we did, so that gives me some hope of avoiding the drop. Edited July 31, 2018 by scotchrover Quote
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