Mattyblue Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 ‘Rovers fans need a scapegoat’ Rovers fans are no different than any other set of fans. Some players get an easier ride than others, but it is usually due to their historical performance. 1 Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He got a big hand to it, its basic goalkeeping to tip it out of the danger zone rather than back into it. He doesnt instill confidence. Has good reflexes and is very young but lets not pretend hes not partial to a mistake. Raya in the main is fairly highly rated so your "scapegoating" line is rubbish. If players do well they get praised, if they make mistakes they get criticised. He couldnt tip it around the post did very well to pull off the save. Doesnt instill confidence? Im the opposite camp then. I would expect a young keeper to made the odd mistake tho pal. But I'm pleased we gave him a proper chance and he took it with both hands Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, chaddyrovers said: He couldnt tip it around the post did very well to pull off the save. Doesnt instill confidence? Im the opposite camp then. I would expect a young keeper to made the odd mistake tho pal. But I'm pleased we gave him a proper chance and he took it with both hands Agree to disagree. It was an average save but considering the hand he got on it, you have to tip it round the post or to the side. You have lower standards cleaely. So he instills confidence in you, yet you agree that he makes mistakes due to being young? I never said otherwise, obviously he is very young for a keeper. He has improved somewhat but he still makes more than an average amount of mistakes for a Championship standard keeper in my opinion. Goalkeepers not really a position where you want a raw youngster so hopefully his improvement will accelerate and he will cut the mistakes out. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Agree to disagree. It was an average save but considering the hand he got on it, you have to tip it round the post or to the side. You have lower standards cleaely. So he instills confidence in you, yet you agree that he makes mistakes due to being young? I never said otherwise, obviously he is very young for a keeper. He has improved somewhat but he still makes more than an average amount of mistakes for a Championship standard keeper in my opinion. Goalkeepers not really a position where you want a raw youngster so hopefully his improvement will accelerate and he will cut the mistakes out. Well I disagree it was an great save. I'm standards have not been lower at all so that is a load of rubbish. Young keepers, older keepers and even the best keepers made mistake in games. Most championship keepers make mistakes Quote
JacknOry Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: The second goal wasn't his fault at all, make a very good save and nothing to be blame for IMO. Well I was agree with another poster who suggestion some Rovers fans need a scapegoat and I agree with him. and I don't agree with him being very error prone either Who the hell is making Raya a scapegoat? You dont half go to extremes Chaddy! 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 One random poster made a comment and now Raya is a scapegoat. Quote
USABlue Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Who the hell is making Raya a scapegoat? You dont half go to extremes Chaddy! Not sure chadster started the scapegoat thing. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 43 minutes ago, USABlue said: Not sure chadster started the scapegoat thing. No I didn't but you see people have a go at me instead of the original poster who said it Quote
JacknOry Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, chaddyrovers said: No I didn't but you see people have a go at me instead of the original poster who said it okay, but you agreed with it though - so what is the difference? 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Well I disagree it was an great save. I'm standards have not been lower at all so that is a load of rubbish. Young keepers, older keepers and even the best keepers made mistake in games. Most championship keepers make mistakes All keepers make mistakes, but the better the keeper, the less the mistakes. Sadly at the moment he makes one too many. Quote
JacknOry Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Still think Raya will become a top keeper but I am not going to ignore his weaknesses. This is what really does my head in on here sometimes. You are not allowed to point out when players make mistakes without being attacked for being negative. One poster went over the top about he needs to be replaced and suddenly Raya is a scapegoat. This is one damn opinion. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: All keepers make mistakes, but the better the keeper, the less the mistakes. Sadly at the moment he makes one too many. we have to agree to disagree on Raya Quote
Mattyblue Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) End of the day, Mowbray made the decision to make a then 20/21 year old his first choice - as good as he is, it’s very young for a keeper. So, unfortunately we will see him make mistakes, the Blackburn Rovers of old would probably still have him out on loan somewhere, but we aren’t that club anymore and we will just have to watch him develop whilst in the first team. Edited August 25, 2018 by Mattyblue 1 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted August 25, 2018 Backroom Posted August 25, 2018 Ipswich lose again. Mick back in by Xmas? Quote
AdamRochina Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, DE. said: Ipswich lose again. Mick back in by Xmas? still cant belive they stole a draw from us Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Whatever is said about this team, they work so so hard for the jersey. Never lie down. All credit to Mowbray and the players. I am looking forward to this season more and more 1 Quote
USABlue Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 19 hours ago, JacknOry said: okay, but you agreed with it though - so what is the difference? He agreed that some fans like a scapegoat not that Raya is a scapegoat, but hey don't let that stop you having a pop. Quote
Backroom Silas Posted August 25, 2018 Backroom Posted August 25, 2018 Unbeaten teams in the Championship: Aston Villa, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest..........Blackburn Rovers. So, with the bookies at beginning of season, basically 4 of the favourites for the top 6, and a relegation candidate. Can't argue with that start. Quote
SBlue Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Soz about the scapegoat comment lads - was meant to be a joke. Who we replacing him with then? De Gea? ? Forest losing at the moment... Edited August 25, 2018 by S8 & Blue Quote
AdamRochina Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 didnt realise forrest were unbeaten, they havent looked that impressive so far though. losing at the minute at home to brum. some teams in the leauge picking up surprise wins, bolton started very well as did wigan but both lost today to teams weaker (slightly?) then they have beaten its why i love this leauge anyone can beat anyone, i would much rarther be in this leauge then just about surviving in the prem, but alas we need to money from the prem to maybe get rid of venkys 2 Quote
callumrovers Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Looks like Bolton fans are seeing the real JL now... " Lowe has the first touch of a conference player and seems unable to pass forwards." Quote
AdamRochina Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 20 minute fight back from forrest, was 2 down now 2-2 Quote
SBlue Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Good game. Mahoney came on and did nowt. Cant help but feel sorry for him, I think if he hadn’t been ill advised at the time then Mowbray and this team could have got a decent player out of him and been one of last years heroes. With the club he supports to boot. Edited August 25, 2018 by S8 & Blue 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 No win for Reading or Ipswich so far. Not surprised by Ipswich struggles. Hurst has bought from League 1 and 2 clubs and the market he knows. Everyone said they struggle this season and they are. No point sacking Hurst as the point is with the owner and lack of investment. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: No win for Reading or Ipswich so far. Not surprised by Ipswich struggles. Hurst has bought from League 1 and 2 clubs and the market he knows. Everyone said they struggle this season and they are. No point sacking Hurst as the point is with the owner and lack of investment. Shows that you was too quick to belittle Mick McCarthy and the excellent work he did there. Hurst has spent some money on Nolan, Nsiala, Edwards, Harrison and Jackson, money McCarthy wishes he had. 3 Quote
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