JHRover Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 I can see where the aggrieved clubs are coming from. Given the atmospheres and entertainment value and even quality of football the product on offer in the Championship isn't far behind, in some cases is even ahead, of many fixtures and clubs in the Premier League, yet those clubs receive vastly greater incomes for ultimately putting on a poorer show. Recent televised games such as Cardiff v Burnley, Fulham v Huddersfield and Cardiff v Brighton were no better than anything you would see in the Championship, yet those clubs receive mega-cash just for being in the Premier League rather than the Championship. The problem I have with it is by bumping the Championship up closer to the Premier League, whilst improving the balance sheets for Championship clubs, is only going to see the gap between the haves and have nots grow, and the gap down to League One and League Two will become massive, which I don't think would be good. The Premier League won't want to know as they won't want to agree to anything that will see their pot diminish or anything that will take away any of the artificial 'mystique' of the Premier League by bringing another division closer to it in stature. It would dilute the prestige of the Premier League. I'm interested to see how this one works out, hope there's plenty of fireworks and the EFL and Sky are made to squeal. Quote
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Bigdoggsteel Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Mattyblue said: It’s like when Newcastle take 3,000 to an away game ‘what fantastic , passionate support, they deserve success’ Why are any of those fans more passionate than say the few hundred Carlisle or Exeter fans traipsing massive distances to watch their clubs? They’ve spent decades watching fourth tier plodders too! Newcastle the prime example that attendances do not equal success Quote
DeeCee Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 Good quote by Andy Holt on Talksport last night about it. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 On 21/11/2018 at 05:15, 47er said: The red button is a disaster. Mid-week games in the middle of winter! Time for that tumbleweed pic to turn up again! 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 We’ve got lucky this season, we’ve no midweek matches between Sheff Utd in early October and Wigan in mid March. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 The changing face of the Championship: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/changing-face-championship-how-englands-second-tier-shifted-its-style 1 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: We’ve got lucky this season, we’ve no midweek matches between Sheff Utd in early October and Wigan in mid March. Wigan next week Quote
arbitro Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: At Ewood... We had Reading and Leeds at home on the red button. From memory Derby, Swansea and Bristol City away were all on the red button too. Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 And Sheff Utd. My point being, at least we’ve avoided the midweek red buttons at home through winter. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Mick McCarthy about to be announced as Ireland manager. I'm a bit surprised to be honest. I think you should never go back to old managers, but he did well before and will undoubtedly get more out of the players than O'Neill was. A nice little break from the day to day grind of club management too. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Mick McCarthy about to be announced as Ireland manager. I'm a bit surprised to be honest. I think you should never go back to old managers, but he did well before and will undoubtedly get more out of the players than O'Neill was. A nice little break from the day to day grind of club management too. Wont the Ireland FA take their time? Robbie Keane as a coach? Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Wont the Ireland FA take their time? Robbie Keane as a coach? I don't think there is a huge list of candidates. The president of the FAI is a gobshite. It's like a dictatorship. So I read. I don't think Roy Keane worked out great in a similar role. Mccarthy usually brings Terry Connors as his number 2,so hopefully that continues. If Robbie kept out of the limelight and focused on coaching someone, anyone how to score goals, that would be fine. Personally I would have liked Allardyce, Neil Lennon or Stephen Kenny. The FAI have an appaling attitude towards the league of ireland, so Kenny was never going to get it Anyways, whoever is confirmed, we literally cannot get any worse. 4 goals in 2018. Pathetic 1 Quote
Norbert Rassragr Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) I can see why Keane got out of there if McCarthy is returning. Roy will be back to ITV looking like he's about to stab anyone in the studio. I did look at the odds, and Kenny was odds on initially, but the other names on the list were not inspiring. Big Sam was the best on offer. Edited November 22, 2018 by Norbert Rassragr Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Just now, Norbert Rassragr said: I can see why Keane got out of there if McCarthy is returning. Roy will be back to ITV looking like he's about to stab anyone in the studio. Ah Keane is a double act with O'Neill. Intersting to see if they stick together in their next roles. Keane is a pantomime villain at this stage. Great player, but I wouldn't be a huge fan of his general carry on. Quote
Norbert Rassragr Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 You'd get a death stare if Roy heard you say that. There does not seem to be any up and coming, inspirational manager linked to the Republic team. Kenny seems to have worked wonders for his Irish team (according to Wikipedia) but might he need a bit of time managing at a higher level first? All the other names are just more of the same as O'Neill. Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Seems like they can go one of 2 ways, go for a younger more revolutionary manager with onus on a long term project or a McCarthy/Big Sam who can have the team well drilled and efficient from set pieces. You look at Wales for example, they seem to be going through a bit of a transition, not that im convinced by Giggs as a manager, but not only do they have 2 superstars to get them goals when things arent going well, but they also have an obvious few young talents (Ampadu, Wilson, Brooks etc) who they can build an exciting future around. Scotland are under a footballing dinasour but even they have some exciting talent (Forrest, McGregor, Fraser, Christie) that can give them some sort of attacking threat that have been unleashed somewhat recently. I look at the Irish side and going forward I see no bright sparks, no good attackers, nothing exciting coming through. Maybe its ignorance but I dont see them. The best 2 players are Coleman and Duffy, 2 good Premier League defenders. Beside that, very, very little. So I think Big Sam would be the best bet if they could afford him. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't think there is a huge list of candidates. The president of the FAI is a gobshite. It's like a dictatorship. So I read. I don't think Roy Keane worked out great in a similar role. Mccarthy usually brings Terry Connors as his number 2,so hopefully that continues. If Robbie kept out of the limelight and focused on coaching someone, anyone how to score goals, that would be fine. Personally I would have liked Allardyce, Neil Lennon or Stephen Kenny. The FAI have an appaling attitude towards the league of ireland, so Kenny was never going to get it Anyways, whoever is confirmed, we literally cannot get any worse. 4 goals in 2018. Pathetic I read that Ireland FA want Kenny to be under 21's boss but he want the top job Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I read that Ireland FA want Kenny to be under 21's boss but he want the top job Right, I hadn't heard that. I would see the under 21s as a step down from what he is doing with Dundalk Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Right, I hadn't heard that. I would see the under 21s as a step down from what he is doing with Dundalk The Sun reporting Sam Allardyce is interested in the Ireland job Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Look at Preston sitting at the big boys table... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/championship-clubs-appoint-lawyers-in-tv-fight-with-efl-9h8lb9w0g Quote
arbitro Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Look at Preston sitting at the big boys table... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/championship-clubs-appoint-lawyers-in-tv-fight-with-efl-9h8lb9w0g Love the law firms name - Slaughter & May ?. For some reason Ridsdale is held in high esteem by his cohorts despite having blood on his hands from previous jobs in football. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Mattyblue said: Look at Preston sitting at the big boys table... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/championship-clubs-appoint-lawyers-in-tv-fight-with-efl-9h8lb9w0g Someone has to make the tea. Preston FFS! Quote
JacknOry Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said: Someone has to make the tea. Preston FFS! Even funnier, they all started greed in football, the game is ruined when they first heard of the EFL breakaway thing but then changed their tune when they discovered they were on the list - and they call us plastic! https://www.pne-online.net/forum/forum/football-forums/pne-discussions/3402435-championship-clubs-threaten-efl-breakaway Quote
only2garners Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, arbitro said: Love the law firms name - Slaughter & May ?. If they've engaged Slaughter & May that's £1m gone already. Quote
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