Championship 2018-19

[SBlue]

Agree on the quality but I think the intensity of the game is much higher in this league.

Just got to get up to the speed of it and then we’ll be cushty.

Derby nowt to come on this showing.

[Oldgregg86]

Reading have been the better side by far but the first few games rarely indicate how teams are going to progress through the season. Very surprised by how poor derby have been. Barrow has been quality and I said at the time it was unbelievable we didn't play him more. No vydra for derby ?. Reading look like they can create but will struggle to score goals

[Ricky]

Lovely cross from Barrow for the goal. Been very good and direct so far 

[Ricky]

And now a howler from the keeper makes it 1-1

[AdamRochina]

Derby steal a win but i personally thought they were pretty poor tonight TBH 

[Ricky]

And then Tom Lawrence looks to have won it for them with a great header

[oldjamfan1]

Tom Lawrence scores in the 95th minute.......

[Tormund]

Lampard is a good guy. Hope it works out for him there.

[SBlue]

Got away with murder. Good header by Lawrence to be fair.

[Waggy76]

2 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

The Lampard love in on Sky is nauseating already. For that reason alone I hope he tanks.

Not as nauseating as the Gerrard love in.........

[Rover_Shaun]

Can't believe we are only 4th

[USABlue]

I firmly believe Lampard is going to be an a abject failure, said so when they hired him.  Gone by Xmas.

[DE.]

I'm far from convinced Lampard will be a success at Derby, but to be honest part of me hopes he is, if only because it might help assure other clubs that you can take a chance on inexperienced managers and succeed. Obviously if there's an experienced, recently successful manager available then that should always be the club's first choice, but if Lampard being a success helps break the merry-go-round of failed managers like Coyle taking post after post then I'm all for that. 

[Stuart]

5 hours ago, USABlue said:

I firmly believe Lampard is going to be an a abject failure, said so when they hired him.  Gone by Xmas.

Won his first game though.

I’m torn personally. Same with Gerrard. They will both have incredible support networks you can be sure of that. It will come down to their own personal hunger and desire, and the tactical abilities of their number two. And of course results in the short term.

It’s not often any more that the top English players become managers - certainly not successful ones.

The most recent successful players-turned-managers off the top of my head are all non-English...

Dalglish

Souness

Mark Hughes (kind of)

Guardiola

Zidane

Deschamps

Beckenbauer

Ancellotti

Cruyff

The only Englishman I can think of racking my brain is Brian Clough. Ironically, the best manager England never had, who never got the chance because of the politics (and fear) within the crumblies at the F.A.

History backs you up though as it suggests that ex-England players don’t do all that well in management: Barnes, Ince, Adams, Neville, Gascoigne, Shearer, Southgate. Probably Ince and now Southgate being the best of a very bad bunch. It’s probably because they have had so much smoke blown up their backsides all through their careers that, one, they believe their own hype, two, they were naturally gifted and can’t cope with failure, and, three, they don’t have the staying power and determination required to stick at it and work even when things go badly and something they aren’t so gifted at.

They were fit and supremely gifted footballers but their grey matter and ability to turn what they could do so easily into what others could do was lacking. (Roy Keane once said as much). Management and especially man-management and tactical astuteness requires a totally different set of skills that, even if they were a captain, they don’t have. It does make me wonder what some of the older generation had that the modern day footballer doesn’t. Money, loyalty and a belief that they haven’t really done anything until they have won a competition no matter what their contemporaries say?

P.S. The other one that nearly did it and should probably be higher than Ince is Kevin Keegan. He just didn’t deserve to be in the list with those chumps).

P.P.S. Steve Bruce should have been the other success story but again he was, astonishingly, never picked for England. So maybe it is a curse!

 

TLDR: England players are jinxed when it comes to management.

[SBlue]

I think Lampard will be fine if given time. And when I say fine, I mean a perfectly serviceable manager at this level.

Would still like to see him struggle a bit though, the rhetoric coming from Match of The Day types was that he was taking a step down and starting in a pub league!

[chaddyrovers]

I really hope Lampard is a success at Derby and I think he will be. He will need time and hopefully Mel Morris will get him this

Looking forward to seeing how Swansea play at Tea kick off game

[Oldgregg86]

Jason Lowe starts at the hawthorns ?

Felt good writing that

[Stuart]

Interesting the difference in approach between Rovers and Wigan in terms of recruitment. L1 champions last season are now 3-1 up in their opening game and had three new players starting and three on the bench. Even they felt they had to strengthen

[chaddyrovers]

Very surprise that Bolton won at West Brom. welcome to the championship Darren Moore. they need some signings otherwise not getting promote

Brentford demolished Rotherham 5-1

Typical Pulis side 2 nil down then last 10 mins get a 2-2 draw. 

[Stuart]

That Swansea sponsor would have looked great on our home shirt.

 

[DE.]

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very surprise that Bolton won at West Brom. 

I'm not. Idiotic decision to keep Moore on and if they don't rectify it soon they'll pay the price and may be stuck in the Championship for a long time. 

[K-Hod]

Does anyone know what channel the highlights are on? Couldn’t see anything in the tv listings.....

[Mattyblue]

UK Conquest... sorry Quest

[Ewood Ace]

4 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Does anyone know what channel the highlights are on? Couldn’t see anything in the tv listings.....

21:00 on Quest channel 144 on Sky or 37 on Freeview.

[West Yorks Rover]

3 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Does anyone know what channel the highlights are on? Couldn’t see anything in the tv listings.....

Quest, it's channel 37, on my TV anyway.