Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Wont it 40% of profit made on the 3 million pounds fee we paid. So that's 13 million pounds profit. So Rovers would get 7.8 million pounds plus 3 mil pounds we paid. Reinvest that properly in the right signings and we should be top 6 We’ve already invested £12 million in the “ right “ signings and we’re nearer to the bottom 6 than the top 6. I wouldn’t give Mowbray another penny to “ invest “. 3 Quote
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Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Wont it 40% of profit made on the 3 million pounds fee we paid. So that's 13 million pounds profit. So Rovers would get 7.8 million pounds plus 3 mil pounds we paid. Reinvest that properly in the right signings and we should be top 6 Not with our current Manager. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 22 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: We’ve already invested £12 million in the “ right “ signings and we’re nearer to the bottom 6 than the top 6. I wouldn’t give Mowbray another penny to “ invest “. Well hopefully we will have a new manager by then. If not and the owners back him again then we need a replace or 2 for Armstrong goals Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Verdict: Just where would Rovers be without Adam Armstrong? | Lancashire Telegraph A balanced journalistic piece by Sharpe. I think we definitely all agree that without him we'd probably have gone down. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted April 11, 2021 Moderation Lead Posted April 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Verdict: Just where would Rovers be without Adam Armstrong? | Lancashire Telegraph A balanced journalistic piece by Sharpe. I think we definitely all agree that without him we'd probably have gone down. Our top goal scorer being our top goal scorer is the least of our worries. Nobody seems to have stopped to consider that he has so many shots at goal because he has no faith in the other players to hit the onion bag. He’s probably not alone in that..... Quote
Gareth Devlin Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 We need to get good money for Armstrong, seeing 15m being talked about. I'd be looking 30m no less. Wouldn't mind getting Rhodes back with another striker. Quote
JHRover Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 20 goal a season strikers don't come around very often. Once again we've wasted having his goals this season, rather than building on it to mount a promotion push. Shame that the focus now we've got a 20 goal season striker on our hands isn't to offer him a bumper deal and fight to keep him but rather try to sell him to anyone who offers cash. Says a lot about our priorities as a football club. To be limping our way to survival and still not at the 50 point mark in mid-April is a travesty. What will our solution be? Why sell the leading goalscorer, keep the failing manager and battle relegation next season. 4 Quote
47er Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 On 19/03/2021 at 23:01, DE. said: It's nice that Armstrong has scored 19 goals this season but we're 15th, so whatever we're doing as a team isn't working irrespective of his personal stats. If we had a better manager at the helm I believe AA would score less but be more productive for the team overall, which is what we should be aiming for. He only scored 5 goals in 18/19 when we finished 15th, so I don't think his goal stats are the be all and end all of our hopes. I agree. Its not healthy to be so dependent on one player to score goals. After all, he could be down with injury at any time. I would prefer 3 to chip in with say 12 each. That should have been Brereton and Gallagher's stats but they clearly are not what we needed. Manager again. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, K-Hod said: Our top goal scorer being our top goal scorer is the least of our worries. Nobody seems to have stopped to consider that he has so many shots at goal because he has no faith in the other players to hit the onion bag. He’s probably not alone in that..... I think the sensible ones amongst us have considered that. I'm still waiting to hear who he should pass to amongst our plethora of goalscoring luminaries.... Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Verdict: Just where would Rovers be without Adam Armstrong? | Lancashire Telegraph A balanced journalistic piece by Sharpe. I think we definitely all agree that without him we'd probably have gone down. Only if we had been playing with 10 men in all those games. Without him and with Mowbray? Maybe. 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Just now, Stuart said: Only if we had been playing with 10 men in all those games. No, if we were playing with a striker who wasn't as good as AA, who is the fella attracting interest from West Ham Everton and Newcastle. Who did you have in mind to replace him from our other strikers? Edited April 11, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Anybody know how many Dumb and Dumber have got between them this season ? Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Anybody know how many Dumb and Dumber have got between them this season ? Wiki:- BB - 5 goals/34 Apps SG - 6 goals/31 Apps AA - 21 goals/35 Apps Half his goals in twice the appearances. How do you solve a problem like Maria Arma Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: No, if we were playing with a striker who wasn't as good as AA, who is the fella attracting interest from West Ham Everton and Newcastle. Who did you have in mind to replace him from our other strikers? You can’t genuinely believe that nobody but Adam Armstrong could get 20 goals from 160 shots with the team set up to do exactly that. If Gallagher had been treated the same way Armstrong has: played centrally, had the team set up to get the best out of him and had been played consistently every week for 90 minutes even when badly out of form then he would be a far better player than the one you see today. Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Wiki:- BB - 5 goals/34 Apps SG - 6 goals/31 Apps AA - 21 goals/35 Apps Half his goals in twice the appearances. How do you solve a problem like Maria Arma Strikers played on the wing score fewer goals. Who knew? 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Stuart said: Strikers played on the wing score fewer goals. Who knew? Not Tony. 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Wiki:- BB - 5 goals/34 Apps SG - 6 goals/31 Apps AA - 21 goals/35 Apps Half his goals in twice the appearances. How do you solve a problem like Maria Arma Armstrong scored 5 when employed as a wide man. In 44 appearances. 2 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Just now, Stuart said: You can’t genuinely believe that nobody but Adam Armstrong could get 20 goals from 160 shots with the team set up to do exactly that. If Gallagher had been treated the same way Armstrong has: played centrally, had the team set up to get the best out of him and had been played consistently every week for 90 minutes even when badly out of form then he would be a far better player than the one you see today. All we know is that AA is only the 20th player to score 20 league goals in a season in our club's history. When Gally achieves that it will be worth discussing in relation to AA's achievements. What was your opinion of Rhodes? Edited April 11, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: Armstrong scored 5 when employed as a wide man. In 44 appearances. I'll look forward to Gally and BB banging them from a central position next season when AA leaves. Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: All we know is that AA is only the 20th player to score 20 league goals in a season in our club's history. When Gally achieves that it will be worth discussing in relation to AA's achievements. Again, self-fulfilling as he won’t as long as Armstrong is here. Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Armstrong scored 5 when employed as a wide man. In 44 appearances. It really is that simple. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Just now, Stuart said: Again, self-fulfilling as he won’t as long as Armstrong is here. Because he's not as good as AA. What was your opinion on Rhodes? Edited April 11, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Stuart said: It really is that simple. BB will score 20+ goals from a central position? Come on now, lets not be silly. Quote
Sparks Rover Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: How do you solve a problem like Maria Arma Easy. Sell him for 20m and buy Clarke Harris for 3-4m . He will get 20 in this league no problem Quote
Stuart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: What was your opinion on Rhodes? I was a fan, he was a lot more clinical than Armstrong and consistently took his chances. There are some similarities between them but we didn’t carry Rhodes as much as have carried Armstrong in terms of losses of form. Rhodes papered over the cracks in Bowyer’s Rovers. He was a limited player who had a knack for finding the net but he was a square peg in a square hole. At least Bowyer, with a few exceptions, did try to play the rest of his team in the right place (although Cairney on the wing and King on the bench were big mistakes). Armstrong’s strength was/is as a wide man with an eye for goal, who should have been lining up chances for others. Duff was 10 times the player Armstrong will ever be but wasn’t converted to a centre forward. On the face of it, Dack’s injury appears to have panicked Mowbray and he moved Armstrong inside. That in itself was damning of, but also terminally damaging to, Gallagher and Brereton. In doing this he put his faith entirely in Armstrong to the exclusion of all others. Quote
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