booth Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, islander200 said: We haven't created anything for him in the last few games.If we were creating chances and he was missing then fair enough but the team in general have been below par. We had 2 decent chances the other night and Brererton created the penalty appeal himself It would have been most likely he'd scored that penalty which may have given him a much needed boost. 1 Quote
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LordBaltimore Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Ben's arrival in Chile, mins 0:38 to 1:32 "Ben Brereton heads the arrival of national team players" reads the title during that segment Ben was quickly whisked off to his hotel. Here: https://www.noihotels.com/noi-vitacura That oxygen tank chamber was paid for by the Chilean FA and installed in Ben's own home in December in preparation for these games in January vs Hungertina and Bolivia at altitude. There is concern that Ben style of play, which involves a lot of running and sprinting, may cost him during these games since he as no experience playing in the thin air he can expect for these matches. Chilean players also are not used to playing at altitude but at least every player on the team has done so before. The first team practice will be Sunday. Brereton is the first player from abroad to arrive. The report stated BBD went to train by himself later that same day. Edited January 22, 2022 by LordBaltimore Quote
matt83 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 So far 2022 has seen vintage Brereton back with a vengeance hopefully after his Chile stint Diaz will get back on the plane home. Quote
frosty Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, LordBaltimore said: Ben's arrival in Chile, mins 0:38 to 1:32 "Ben Brereton heads the arrival of national team players" reads the title during that segment I really don’t think ‘he almost went to Leeds’, as she’s claiming. There’d have been mention of that here at some point if so, but there’s been nothing of the sort. I get the impression that in Chile they just like linking him with transfers. Quote
Armchair supporter supremo Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 He does normally come back ftom International duty with a confidance boost and a spring in his step, hopefully that's the case again. Just worried he's going to pick up a nasty injury out there sometime, especially if he starts getting singled out by the oppo due to all the hype around him Quote
Ulrich Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: He does normally come back ftom International duty with a confidance boost and a spring in his step, hopefully that's the case again. Just worried he's going to pick up a nasty injury out there sometime, especially if he starts getting singled out by the oppo due to all the hype around him I'm hoping for that too, or 4 games without a BBD goal seems strange. Even if he does get injured, I'm not worried, we have the mighty Sam Gallagher, who I'm sure would easily take up the slack should that occur. 🤔😂😂😂 1 Quote
LordBaltimore Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, frosty said: I really don’t think ‘he almost went to Leeds’, as she’s claiming. There’d have been mention of that here at some point if so, but there’s been nothing of the sort. I get the impression that in Chile they just like linking him with transfers. You are correct. He has been no where close to a Leeds transfer despite their interest. Leeds has totally given up on him at least until summer given how expensive he is & how much Rovers want to keep him. Sports journslists are the same all over, often ill informed and talking out their ass. Leeds is the most popular premier league team in both Argentina & Chile. This is due to Marcelo Bielsa coaching there. All Leeds games are broadcast in both countries. While Bielsa divides opinions in Argentina due to his "failure" at getting the great 2002 Argentina team out of the 1st round (i'm sure many here remember their game vs England), Marcelo is almost universally loved/beloved in Chile for his imprint on the national team and the so-called "golden generation" of Chilean football. For those that don't know, the Bielsa family is one of highly intelligent high achievers in Rosario, Argentina's 2nd largest city. Marcelo's brother Rafael is the current ambassador to Chile. His sister is a prominent politician, was vice governor of a province and has been a cabinet member. So the idea of Ben playing at Leeds and being improved and moulded by Marcelo Bielsa excites everyone in Chile. This reporter obviously let wishful thinking get ahead of the facts. Edited January 22, 2022 by LordBaltimore 6 Quote
LordBaltimore Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) The biggest sports news last night was, of course, Ben's arrival in Santiago. Big Ben has arrived Unlike what the earlier video I posted stated, Ben did NOT go to his hotel but instead was taken to a private bedroom at the Chilean national team training grounds in order to await the results of his Covid test, as required by Chilean regulations, where he then trained alone. The team will take a private plane north to Calama on Sunday with their first training at 2260m on Monday. "Big Ben is in Chile and ready for the altitude" Much of the coverage again focussed on his "specialized training" in his use of a hyperbaric chamber provided to him by the Chilean FA in his own residence. The hyperbaric tank, presumably this is the actual tank in Ben's abode. Edited January 22, 2022 by LordBaltimore Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 02:33, LordBaltimore said: his training for altitude should benefit him even at sea level (or 6ft above sea level). more oxygen to the muscles, increased aerobic capacity. at least that is what the research seems to show. So why doesn't every athlete use that training ? Quote
LordBaltimore Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, rigger said: So why doesn't every athlete use that training ? Who knows. When was the last time a Bolivian or someone from Tibet won a marathon? Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, LordBaltimore said: Who knows. When was the last time a Bolivian or someone from Tibet won a marathon? Or a snickers. 2 Quote
bazza Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, rigger said: Or a snickers. Lord Baltimore won't know what you are on about. But I like it.😊 1 Quote
Spartakfenni Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, LordBaltimore said: Who knows. When was the last time a Bolivian or someone from Tibet won a marathon? 32 minutes ago, rigger said: Or a snickers. All the East African countries like Kenya, Ethiopia etc, have athletes born and brought up at altitude. Plus athletes like Paula Radcliffe, Mo Farah trained at altitude. It well known that it increases the oxygen carrying ability of your blood. Why it’s not used in other sports, I suppose for football the come round so quickly that it’s not practical. Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, bazza said: Lord Baltimore won't know what you are on about. But I like it.😊 I know, but it will get him wondering. 2 Quote
bazza Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Regarding this hyperbaric thing, I cannot understand how being put under greater atmospheric pressure and greater oxygen levels can help someone who will be sprinting around in a rarified atmosphere containing less oxygen. Seems topsy turvy to me. Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spartakfenni said: All the East African countries like Kenya, Ethiopia etc, have athletes born and brought up at altitude. Plus athletes like Paula Radcliffe, Mo Farah trained at altitude. It well known that it increases the oxygen carrying ability of your blood. Why it’s not used in other sports, I suppose for football the come round so quickly that it’s not practical. That would point to it being useful for stamina, not so much for sprinting or quick movements. Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bazza said: Regarding this hyperbaric thing, I cannot understand how being put under greater atmospheric pressure and greater oxygen levels can help someone who will be sprinting around in a rarified atmosphere containing less oxygen. Seems topsy turvy to me. Isn't the chamber used, to get the body acclimatised to a lower amount of oxygen and pressure in the atmosphere ? Quote
bazza Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, rigger said: Isn't the chamber used, to get the body acclimatised to a lower amount of oxygen and pressure in the atmosphere ? I glanced quickly through the wiki link but couldn't find anything about that. It's used to treat bubbles in the blood in deep sea divers plus lots of other medical conditions. Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, bazza said: I glanced quickly through the wiki link but couldn't find anything about that. It's used to treat bubbles in the blood in deep sea divers plus lots of other medical conditions. That is when they are used to increase the atmospheric pressure, to simulate being back below sea-level. The chambers can also be used to reduce the atmospheric pressure to simulate being at altitude, this allows the body over time to gradually acclimatise to the lack of pressure and less oxygen. Edited January 22, 2022 by rigger Quote
Ulrich Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, rigger said: That is when they are used to increase the atmospheric pressure, to simulate being back below sea-level. The chambers can also be used to reduce the atmospheric pressure to simulate being at altitude, this allows the body over time to gradually acclimatise to the lack of pressure and less oxygen. The key aspect being over time as doesn't it take 2-3 weeks for the body to adapt to the lower O2 content. Quote
LordBaltimore Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, rigger said: I know, but it will get him wondering. You have got me.....wondering. 🤔 Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ulrich said: The key aspect being over time as doesn't it take 2-3 weeks for the body to adapt to the lower O2 content. It depends on the body. I presume that it is being used, to maximise the effect. It might not be perfect, but it is better than nothing. Quote
rigger Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, LordBaltimore said: You have got me.....wondering. 🤔 Marathon, was the English name for Snickers, chocolate bars. 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) . Edited January 23, 2022 by JacknOry 2 Quote
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