JacknOry Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Putting Crygate to one side, the BB transfer has been a disaster from day 1. He didn't even want to come here initially from what I recall - being so far from from family and friends at a young age. Have to remember that he is still a young lad but the fee combined with never really getting a sustained run in the side and in his actual position has essentially drained all confidence it seems. Not sure I see any future here for him now and it would be best for him and us to draw a line under his time here now and find him another club where he can have a fresh start. 2 Quote
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AllRoverAsia Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Has England grown a few inches in the time I've been away? Are Planes, Trains, and Automobiles banned? Is moving house an unknown concept? I keep seeing the excuse for crap footballers being that they are far from home. 2 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Egan and Norwood were top signings. Plus we didn't go for John McGinn. What a huge mistake that was Pretty sure we did, but Villa blew us out of the water. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: Pretty sure we did, but Villa blew us out of the water. Wasn't that another one where Mowbray said he would have to compete with Smallwood and Evans and wouldn't be a guaranteed starter? It was early in the transfer window, we could have got that one sorted before Villa even looked at him. Quote
Amo Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Wasn't that another one where Mowbray said he would have to compete with Smallwood and Evans and wouldn't be a guaranteed starter? It was early in the transfer window, we could have got that one sorted before Villa even looked at him. He said centre midfield was a position which didn't need spending: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/09/14/tony-mowbray-says-he-looked-at-john-mcginn-before-aston-villa-mo/ Quote
Moderation Lead Popular Post K-Hod Posted January 6, 2020 Moderation Lead Popular Post Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Missing out on John McGinn and saying Harrison Reed needed to learn how to play central midfield from Evans and Smallwood were among Mowbray’s worst comments/crimes.... Edited January 7, 2020 by K-Hod 11 Quote
OJRovers Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 The best thing that could happen is for him to go out on loan in January to a League One/League Two club to play some games and try to build a bit of confidence back. Unfortunately, for political reasons I don’t think that will happen. 2 Quote
tomphil Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, OJRovers said: The best thing that could happen is for him to go out on loan in January to a League One/League Two club to play some games and try to build a bit of confidence back. Unfortunately, for political reasons I don’t think that will happen. Sadly we were saying exactly the same this time last year and i think we'll be saying the same this time next, not just about Ben ! 1 Quote
Husky Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, K-Hod said: Missing out on John McGinn and saying Harrison Reed needed to learn how to play central midfield from Evans and Smallwood were among Mowbray’s worst comments.... When I have time I'm seriously going to make the Tony or Tosh? quiz. Quote
Amo Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 What a get out of jail free card Mowbray has! Brereton's shit = He didn't really want him anyway. Brereton's great = What a buy! Where are all the Mowbray haters now!? 4 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Amo said: What a get out of jail free card Mowbray has! Brereton's shit = He didn't really want him anyway. Brereton's great = What a buy! Where are all the Mowbray haters now!? Now that's the situation you want to be in - Power without responsibility. 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Amo said: What a get out of jail free card Mowbray has! Brereton's shit = He didn't really want him anyway. Brereton's great = What a buy! Where are all the Mowbray haters now!? In fairness he has never once said he didn't want him, the opposite in fact. Quote
Amo Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: In fairness he has never once said he didn't want him, the opposite in fact. I'm talking about Mowbray's supporters on here. 1 Quote
Husky Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: Has England grown a few inches in the time I've been away? Are Planes, Trains, and Automobiles banned? Is moving house an unknown concept? I keep seeing the excuse for crap footballers being that they are far from home. Lol. Completely true. England is tiny. When you've been to (or lived in massive country) this really hits home. Try 14 hours on a bus just to reach the next City. ? Far too many snowflakes and excuse monkeys in little England. 1 Quote
benhben Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 4 hours ago, K-Hod said: Missing out on John McGinn and saying Harrison Reed needed to learn how to play central midfield from Evans and Smallwood were among Mowbray’s worst comments.... Ughh. When you look back there are some sickening comments made by Mowbray. Theres so much crap coming from him you forget the past howlers. This is as bad as anything would have said. Quote
USABlue Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 This last weekend was the worst he has been. Zero confidence now. I blame Mowbary 100%. The boy was.actially.hidi g moving away from.getting.the ball. Never made a proper effort again to.get.the ball when a decent amount of effort would have got him there first. We need to loan him out so he can rebuild himself. Had a good pre season then Mowbary sits him down. We are chasing a goal in a game.early.in the season, Charlton.was.it? and Mowbary prefers Buckley. Just imagine what.might.have.been had Brereton came on and scored. We'd be looking at a different player I'll bet...The message Mowbary sent to him that day would have been soul.destroying for a sensitive young kid. Mowbary does that type of stuff over and over. Killed Travis's natural game.too. Several players with potential he has spiralled backwards. Holtby is the latest one. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I mentioned McGoldrick here and was informed that he is a crock, that wasn't you by any chance? No, he initially went on trial at Sheffield United and I suggested that we had a look at him. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Nice one Tom, another week of Rovers fans being categorised as ‘horrible boo boys’, though he’s had excellent support from the vast majority of fans... https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18140138.a-poisoned-chalice-currently-ben-brereton-rovers/ Oh and work out what a ‘poisoned chalice ‘ means before you try and use it in an article! Quote
Stuart Posted January 7, 2020 Author Posted January 7, 2020 A fan blamer - great! Maybe they have to sign something that says they can’t criticise anyone at the club? Quote
Mattyblue Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 It’s all done for mutual back-slapping and retweets from that particular Twitter sub section of Rovers fans, which I suppose is vital if you want your articles read in a digital age. Nice way to throw a largely very supportive fanbase under the bus though... Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted January 7, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mattyblue said: Nice one Tom, another week of Rovers fans being categorised as ‘horrible boo boys’, though he’s had excellent support from the vast majority of fans... https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18140138.a-poisoned-chalice-currently-ben-brereton-rovers/ Oh and work out what a ‘poisoned chalice ‘ means before you try and use it in an article! Another one who harps on about negativity, excellent. They might as well have kept Simon Smith on. I think fans on the terraces have been incredibly patient with Brereton to be honest. Judging by Mowbray’s call to arms in the LT the other day, the only person who can fix this, is Brereton himself! Edited January 7, 2020 by K-Hod 3 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 On 05/01/2020 at 18:02, Bigdoggsteel said: If you disagree, you must therefore agree that Mowbray is a massive liar? The quotes @DE.shared are pretty unequivocal. I don't believe he is a liar to be honest. Just a company man? Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Just a company man? In what way? I was saying that he isn't covering for the owners signing Brereton over his head. I think he did ok the signing. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, K-Hod said: Another one who harps on about negativity, excellent. They might as well have kept Simon Smith on. I think fans on the terraces have been incredibly patient with Brereton to be honest. Judging by Mowbray’s call to arms in the LT the other day, the only person who can fix this, is Brereton himself! That's about the size of it. If Brereton does start scoring,I don't think any of us would be unhappy about it. Quote
Husky Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Let's pretend Mowbray does the right thing. Which club would take Brereton on loan? I'd say there would have to be favourable terms for them - ie. With Rovers continuing to pay his wages. As a continued viewer of the EFL goals show I note that there are actually some decent finishers in the 3rd and even the 4th division. So I can't see many teams taking a punt unless it's basically a 'freebie'. Edited January 7, 2020 by Husky Quote
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