Attendances

[PeteJD13]

I do think it comes back to pricing I'm bringing my daughter to her first game this Saturday 33 quid for the pair of us in the family stand. Except once lunch has been bought and something from the club shop it turns into a 50/60 quid expense.

That said I am looking forward to seeing strikers lounge and if my daughter enjoys then its more than worth the cost, she's 2 1/2 so she might be a bit young really.

[Mattyblue]

Amazing that you are being charged at all for a 2 year old in the family stand.

[philipl]

On 17/10/2018 at 12:46, tonygreenbank said:

It appears that the EFL are well aware of the “slump” in midweek attendances according to the Times today.

The paper has sent figures to the EFL which show an 8.8% per game drop in gates this season compared to last seasons figure of 4.5% in midweek games without the red button facility.

The deal with Sky is worth £88m per year which will rise to £120m from 2019 to 2024 when the current deal ends.

This money is shared by all 72 EFL clubs. So we get just over a million from the deal.

The EFL Is apparently carrying out its own review of the red button effect. Officialise jargon for “ whoops we’ve made a balls up but we’re stuck with it for 6 seasons!”

9% of 14,000 (say) at £30 each 4 times at home a season is £151,200 vs £1m payment from Sky is the Rovers' calculation.

£75,000 vs £1m if you factor in the 4.5% drop for midweek games anyway.  

No brainer- take the red button IF you look at this decision in isolation this season.

If you really want to do anything about attendances, scrap the weekend international breaks.

[only2garners]

4 hours ago, PeteJD13 said:

I do think it comes back to pricing I'm bringing my daughter to her first game this Saturday 33 quid for the pair of us in the family stand. Except once lunch has been bought and something from the club shop it turns into a 50/60 quid expense.

That said I am looking forward to seeing strikers lounge and if my daughter enjoys then its more than worth the cost, she's 2 1/2 so she might be a bit young really.

A bit of expectation management for you - at 2 1/2 she will have little interest in the football and be more interested in going to the loo and eating and drinking. She is also likely to be uncomfortable with the noise as well. We might think the atmosphere is quiet often at Ewood but for young kids it's a big shock. With our boys they were 5 or 6 before they were really interested in going and watching the game.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, only2garners said:

A bit of expectation management for you - at 2 1/2 she will have little interest in the football and be more interested in going to the loo and eating and drinking.

That's still applicable in your 40's.

[PeteJD13]

2 hours ago, only2garners said:

A bit of expectation management for you - at 2 1/2 she will have little interest in the football and be more interested in going to the loo and eating and drinking. She is also likely to be uncomfortable with the noise as well. We might think the atmosphere is quiet often at Ewood but for young kids it's a big shock. With our boys they were 5 or 6 before they were really interested in going and watching the game.

Yeah I'm well aware of that so I'm coming well stocked with things to provide entertainment, tbh I probably agree In that I think she is to young then again some other fans I've spoke to have taken kids at a similar age. But she loves football, that said I expect I'll be watching the game and she'll be watching peppa pig on the kindle!. If she really hates it we'll go early and chalk it up for experience.

[only2garners]

Ah - I didn't have the option of iPads/kindles when my lads were young!

[gumboots]

We took our grandson to the Oxford match. Noisier than most recent matches. He wasn't quite 2. He loved it. Was fascinated watching the crowds, the match, the mascot, everything. Every child is different. Your daughter may live it

[DeeCee]

8 hours ago, only2garners said:

A bit of expectation management for you - at 2 1/2 she will have little interest in the football and be more interested in going to the loo and eating and drinking. She is also likely to be uncomfortable with the noise as well. We might think the atmosphere is quiet often at Ewood but for young kids it's a big shock. With our boys they were 5 or 6 before they were really interested in going and watching the game.

Indoctrination?

 

[bazza]

I hate the word "indoctrination" when you try to bring up your children to know and love the things that you do. It seems accusative; as if you are doing wrong.

[K-Hod]

The way I see it with this thread, it's all coming back to a few points:

1- We've a locally (and a few slightly further afield) based hardcore that will attend regardless, as long as the pricing is affordable. (I put myself in this category, just because of free time/disposable income available).

2- The problem isn't attracting the above fans, it's getting additional people to come (walk-ons). 

3- We need to do whatever we can to get more people in. As ever, this ties in with the bigger picture and we need to stop the barriers like surcharges and category pricing. (The latter shouldn't be a thing in the second division IMO). Additional fans that come, will likely want to spend money in the shop, on the concourse etc.

4- Personally, I think a set fee of £20 for adults (maybe £25 JW front and centre) for all home games should be the starting point. It then means it's still worthwhile being a season ticket holder IMO. 

5- The red button coverage poses problems for those locally based that have different shift patterns/financial considerations etc. Personally, I think it's a short-sighted move from FL clubs. If people can watch many games via the red button and a Sky subscription as a whole represents better value than a season ticket, then it's a tough call for families for example. Though, for me, I'd always choose my Rovers season ticket over anything, I'm a single man with very few commitments, so it's easy for me to say that!

Edited October 19, 2018 by K-Hod

[Mattyblue]

Agree, but I’ll go back to the fact that we’ve never sold a lot of walk ons week to week.

Our crowds have always waxed and waned on the back of season ticket sales, which have always made up the vast majority of our support, that’s why this summer was so disappointing on that score and we are seeing the results now.

Edited October 19, 2018 by Mattyblue

[47er]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

The way I see it with this thread, it's all coming back to a few points:

1- We've a locally (and a few slightly further afield) based hardcore that will attend regardless, as long as the pricing is affordable. (I put myself in this category, just because of free time/disposable income available).

2- The problem isn't attracting the above fans, it's getting additional people to come (walk-ons). 

3- We need to do whatever we can to get more people in. As ever, this ties in with the bigger picture and we need to stop the barriers like surcharges and category pricing. (The latter shouldn't be a thing in the second division IMO). Additional fans that come, will likely want to spend money in the shop, on the concourse etc.

4- Personally, I think a set fee of £20 for adults (maybe £25 JW front and centre) for all home games should be the starting point. It then means it's still worthwhile being a season ticket holder IMO. 

5- The red button coverage poses problems for those locally based that have different shift patterns/financial considerations etc. Personally, I think it's a short-sighted move from FL clubs. If people can watch many games via the red button and a Sky subscription as a whole represents better value than a season ticket, then it's a tough call for families for example. Though, for me, I'd always choose my Rovers season ticket over anything, I'm a single man with very few commitments, so it's easy for me to say that!

Agree but one or two specials at 15 quid would not come amiss.

[K-Hod]

Just now, 47er said:

Agree but one or two specials at 15 quid would not come amiss.

Oh yeah, absolutely. But I think as a starting point for general pricing was what I really meant. Obviously offers throughout the season would be welcome!

[DeeCee]

What about making the midweek tickets a tenner when we're on Sky/Red Button/ I Follow etc?

[tomphil]

That's were it doesn't really work nor make it feasible really unless the team is doing really well they've had stuff like that in the past and at home to a Brentford or Reading midweek you'll put about 200 on the gate.

To get people back in the habit you have to strike whilst the iron is hot get them in when interest is peaking or next best thing is games against big name opposition like tomorrow. Looks like being 21k but would've been 25k+ with some good home fan pricing strategy.

Take the easy route though let the police run it let them get their overtime and on job training in, no Burnley games these days so Leeds it is and rely on a huge away support paying top dollar to cover the extra cost, no doubt an invite or two to the policemans Christmas ball drops on the Ewood mat.

A right cop out !

[Scotland1]

Slash the prices for a fan day, get some coaches on for supporters groups. Today symbolises 100 percent Blackburn rovers (arte et Labore). The lads on the pitch after years deserve our backing, we can push them on this year.

Todays 29/31 quid a ticket for a game on sky, early kick off restricting the pre match drinking and experience was way too high considering people have to make the journey to Blackburn itself.

Edited October 20, 2018 by Scotland1

[philipl]

Just under 21,000 on today.

[Mattyblue]

13,212 home fans, which is our biggest turn out of the season by nearly a 1,000.

 

Edited October 20, 2018 by Mattyblue

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

13,212 home fans, which is our biggest turn out of the season by nearly a 1,000.

 

Every walk on today should be contacted by the club next week pushing half season tickets. Strike whilst the iron is hot.

[Mattyblue]

However, was the REAL attendance a fair bit lower, as the police may have let the cat out of the bag;

Chief Insp John Bullas, the match commander, said: "Around 18,000 people attended the game and the vast majority were well-behaved.

[chaddyrovers]

20 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

13,212 home fans, which is our biggest turn out of the season by nearly a 1,000.

 

good effort for fans. I walked the ticket office about a hour before kick off and they wasn't 10 people there. 

about 45 mins before kick off the Blackburn End concourse didn't even had 100 people in there. 

I do agree with @arbitro 's comment that Blackburn Rovers need to send emails and mail to those walk on's fans to get them back as season tickets. I seen a few people who I haven't seen for a while there including a friend who made a decision to come down 90 mins before kick off. Hopefully he will get a season ticket now

[Scotland1]

15 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Every walk on today should be contacted by the club next week pushing half season tickets. Strike whilst the iron is hot.

That or be given a promotional offer as a thanks for their support please find a guest pass for the next home game. Someone takes someone on this guess pass which might then shift a few more HST's.

New Year's Day we play West Brom at home, might as well set this category C get a full house at a time when families are actually all together, have a family tradition of xmas football and when people are off work and not travelling etc.  Create a New Year's Day family price for a one off set cost. Do it now so people can make their xmas plans.

[Mattyblue]

Great idea, but it won’t happen.

[tomphil]

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

However, was the REAL attendance a fair bit lower, as the police may have let the cat out of the bag;

Chief Insp John Bullas, the match commander, said: "Around 18,000 people attended the game and the vast majority were well-behaved.

Therein lies the problem of moving the kick off and charging top whack if that is correct which it probably is meaning only about 10k home fans pitched up in person and that is worrying for a game like that but the suits won't care a toss because the till receipts say 20k mostly paying customers.

They need to pull their heads out their fat arses and get something done.