HowieFive0 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Stuart said: Looks like we’ve got the important stuff covered. I guess that’s all the walk-on fan needs to get down and support the lads: convenience in getting your match ticket. Wonder if this be at a reduced price because the club now has zero service costs...? Getting ready for when TM is sacked ..match day tickets are £5 (free before midday ) and the return of the so called missing 10000 fans ..not! (Cant fault the club for trying to move with the times though) Football as a "live " spectacle is a thing of the past now. We ve a generation of football fans that think a live game is one that's on tv. They ve no interest going to a ground to watch ..they ve no need to ..football on tv in the home ,pub ,tablet ..phone ..most important games can be picked up as a stream. That's live football. I look at the young adults sat around me and the majority of those were brought by their dads (and mums) as kids when football was less tv influenced and have now carried on either because of loyalty or habit. The next generation will be very thin on the ground. Football as a live event is dying out fullstop. Its like the cinema ..you can slash prices as much as you like ..deals etc but theres no real interest because what you want to watch is readily available elsewhere. 2 Quote
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perthblue02 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HowieFive0 said: Getting ready for when TM is sacked ..match day tickets are £5 (free before midday ) and the return of the so called missing 10000 fans ..not! (Cant fault the club for trying to move with the times though) Football as a "live " spectacle is a thing of the past now. We ve a generation of football fans that think a live game is one that's on tv. They ve no interest going to a ground to watch ..they ve no need to ..football on tv in the home ,pub ,tablet ..phone ..most important games can be picked up as a stream. That's live football. I look at the young adults sat around me and the majority of those were brought by their dads (and mums) as kids when football was less tv influenced and have now carried on either because of loyalty or habit. The next generation will be very thin on the ground. Football as a live event is dying out fullstop. Its like the cinema ..you can slash prices as much as you like ..deals etc but theres no real interest because what you want to watch is readily available elsewhere. Can't find the numbers for last season but numbers for 2016/17 showed record attendances for football league (not Premier League) games since 1959 and is showing a small year on year growth. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4497292/English-Football-League-attendances-reach-58-year-high.html Edit : this one shows the average attendances of PL , Champ, L1 and L2 over the years https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm Edited February 23, 2019 by perthblue02 2 Quote
blueboy3333 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HowieFive0 said: Getting ready for when TM is sacked ..match day tickets are £5 (free before midday ) and the return of the so called missing 10000 fans ..not! (Cant fault the club for trying to move with the times though) Football as a "live " spectacle is a thing of the past now. We ve a generation of football fans that think a live game is one that's on tv. They ve no interest going to a ground to watch ..they ve no need to ..football on tv in the home ,pub ,tablet ..phone ..most important games can be picked up as a stream. That's live football. I look at the young adults sat around me and the majority of those were brought by their dads (and mums) as kids when football was less tv influenced and have now carried on either because of loyalty or habit. The next generation will be very thin on the ground. Football as a live event is dying out fullstop. Its like the cinema ..you can slash prices as much as you like ..deals etc but theres no real interest because what you want to watch is readily available elsewhere. You also got that bit wrong, on top of the football attendance stuff Perth quoted. You seem to be indulging in a lot of Fake News ? https://news.sky.com/story/cinema-attendance-is-highest-since-the-1970s-11581982 Edited February 23, 2019 by blueboy3333 1 Quote
HowieFive0 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said: You also got that bit wrong, on top of the football attendance stuff Perth quoted. You seem to be indulging in a lot of Fake News ? https://news.sky.com/story/cinema-attendance-is-highest-since-the-1970s-11581982 Ah ok il sit down..i was just going off what i see with my own eyes at games . And the empty cinemas bar 2 for 1 weds . Must just be a Rovers thing ..just a shit club eh ? Quote
blueboy3333 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: Ah ok il sit down..i was just going off what i see with my own eyes at games . And the empty cinemas bar 2 for 1 weds . Must just be a Rovers thing ..just a shit club eh ? Now, now, nobody said it was a shit club. If you can't fake news it then straw man it eh? Quote
HowieFive0 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, blueboy3333 said: Now, now, nobody said it was a shit club. If you can't fake news it then straw man it eh? My opinion BB ..I see empty seats at Ewood...lots. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: My opinion BB ..I see empty seats at Ewood...lots. We all do. The rationale you put forward as to why was the issue. It seems you were barking up the wrong tree. The question now is how do we fill seats that are always empty. We all have different opinions on that which is fine. Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Don’t confuse Ewood with the rest of football. Nearly every other club in England have substantially increased their gates over the past decade. We are one of the few to go the other way, put the blame for that at the door of those that deserve it... Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Rovers historical attendances http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/blar.htm Quote
HowieFive0 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, blueboy3333 said: We all do. The rationale you put forward as to why was the issue. It seems you were barking up the wrong tree. The question now is how do we fill seats that are always empty. We all have different opinions on that which is fine. Not necessarily barking up the wrong tree at all. In my opinion its a factor.Regardless of average gates across the country being up ..without the tv saturation gates would be even higher if people want to watch football. So to me its an issue. No incentive for people to get off their asses and watch a game when they can simply push a button and have a choice of whatever game they wish. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: Not necessarily barking up the wrong tree at all. In my opinion its a factor.Regardless of average gates across the country being up ..without the tv saturation gates would be even higher if people want to watch football. So to me its an issue. No incentive for people to get off their asses and watch a game when they can simply push a button and have a choice of whatever game they wish. Ah so you've changed from football as a live event is a thing of the past (disproved based on attendances) to admitting football as a live event is popular but would be even more popular if it wasn't for TV. It Rovers are bucking that popularity trend then Rovers need to do something differently instead of using passive aggressive marketing slogans ('are you committed, they are' boolllocks) and Waggott casting aspersions on the historical size of our club. Quote
HowieFive0 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said: Ah so you've changed from football as a live event is a thing of the past (disproved based on attendances) to admitting football as a live event is popular but would be even more popular if it wasn't for TV. It Rovers are bucking that popularity trend then Rovers need to do something differently instead of using passive aggressive marketing slogans ('are you committed, they are' boolllocks) and Waggott casting aspersions on the historical size of our club. I also doubt the figures spun regarding average attendances are actually up ..can I say fake news ?.. Not too sure we can trust attendance figures when season ticket numbers are counted whether that person is actually there or not ..the empty seats at the Emptihad and various other sell out grounds are there for all to see . I'm calling it fake news Bb ..sod it !? Quote
Stuart Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, perthblue02 said: Can't find the numbers for last season but numbers for 2016/17 showed record attendances for football league (not Premier League) games since 1959 and is showing a small year on year growth. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4497292/English-Football-League-attendances-reach-58-year-high.html Edit : this one shows the average attendances of PL , Champ, L1 and L2 over the years https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm Interesting. So what are the reasons that attendances increasing? On the face of it it looks as though it’s a halo effect from the Premier League era beginning. Later on maybe more big clubs dropping into the second tier. Also the top flight dropping from 22 to 20 teams must have had an impact in reversing the trend. Some of the traditional 1st division clubs became 2nd division, and some lower 2nd division ones becoming 3rd tier. So no immediate growth per team but maybe growth of the football league ‘big boys’. I guess the razzmatazz of the Sky Revolution re-ignited interest in the game. Huge growth until 2002 (the time of the last decent England team?) then growth has slowed a lot - maybe saturation point has been reached. Prices lowering across football due to Sky TV money might have increased ST numbers? Quote
Paul Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Health issues are preventing me from attending at present. I hope to return for PNE. I paid £8.70 to watch the Boro game. It wasn't a great experience. If a small, reasonable premium allowed my ST to access live away matches for the season I would probably pay for that - £50-75 per season. Edited February 24, 2019 by Paul Quote
Stuart Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Paul said: Health issues are preventing me from attending at present. I hope to return for PNE. I paid £8.70 to watch the Boro game. It wasn't a great experience. If a small, reasonable premium allowed my ST to access live away matches for the season I would probably pay for that - £50-75 per season. Not good to hear, Paul. Hope you are feeling better soon mate. Quote
Paul Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Stuart said: Not good to hear, Paul. Hope you are feeling better soon mate. All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. Quote
Stuart Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, Paul said: All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. Wow. That can be pretty life changing stuff. Hope you are back to your best soon. Take it easy. Quote
arbitro Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul said: All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. Best wishes Paul. Quote
CP Company Lad Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul said: All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. All the best Paul. Quote
pk1875 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Paul said: All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. Ah best wishes Paul, hope you're soon up and running again 1 Quote
JBiz Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Paul said: Health issues are preventing me from attending at present. I hope to return for PNE. I paid £8.70 to watch the Boro game. It wasn't a great experience. If a small, reasonable premium allowed my ST to access live away matches for the season I would probably pay for that - £50-75 per season. All the best pal. Nothing worse than being stopped from enjoying the basics through health! 1 Quote
tomphil Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Paul said: All I can do is wait and see brain haemorrage but improving. Hope your fit and about again soon, good cycling weather this ? 1 Quote
philipl Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 On 22/02/2019 at 14:48, AllRoverAsia said: Print your ticket at home. A great option, if you have access to a printer. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2019/february/print--home/ Looking forwards to printing the result coming in. 1 Quote
perthblue02 Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, philipl said: Looking forwards to printing the result coming in. For that retro feel set your printer to quarter speed ........... Blackburn Rovers ..5..(FIVE).................. 4 Quote
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