JHRover Posted November 13, 2018 Author Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said: I believe you 1864 but JHRover seems to be under the impression that this practice doesn't go on or isn't possible. I haven't said that, I've questioned if it is allowed or if they have the right to force people to do it and suggested that there is a lot of assumption taking place based on people's appearances. In many other aspects of life such generalisations would not be allowed. I know it is done and I know why the police want it that way. My point is if you don't want to be part of it what power they have to force you. Edited November 13, 2018 by JHRover Quote
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MCMC1875 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, JHRover said: I haven't said that, I've questioned if it is allowed or if they have the right to force people to do it and suggested that there is a lot of assumption taking place based on people's appearances. In many other aspects of life such generalisations would not be allowed. I know it is done and I know why the police want it that way. My point is if you don't want to be part of it what power they have to force you. Don't know what power they have besides drunk and disorderly but I've always managed to avoid them. Quote
1864roverite Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 There is no power to hold you against your will or detain you without reason. You cannot be herded onto a bus because an officer demands it. You cannot be stopped without any reason same for being stopped and search there has to be a reason unless you are about to enter the ground. Clearly landlords can prevent entry into their pubs it’s their decision. I accept that if 500 fans tipped out at the railway station it is likely there would be an escort of some description that’s a common sense factor. The police can offer direction but if there is a public safety issue they will take the necessary steps and action. Let common sense prevail. Quote
PeteJD13 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 Where is the best place to park, the retail parks are a no no. Last time I went they opened up parking across the road from the ground Quote
Gav Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 Happens all over the country week in week out during the football season: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-bristol-45469719 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10412281 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, tomphil said: Police Force ...... clue is in the title. ....what about... police intelligence? 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 11 hours ago, old darwen blue said: An impressive positive invading army no less! I see what you did there 1 Quote
Ossydave Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 Well I got mine earlier, wasn't really in a rush previously but was shocked to see how many we'd sold yesterday. I bought 3 and there was only row 3 or 16 available she said so sell out looks likely this week... Quote
1864roverite Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, PeteJD13 said: Where is the best place to park, the retail parks are a no no. Last time I went they opened up parking across the road from the ground I am afraid around Preston’s ground is crime riddled both the damage and thievery if I was you I would park in Town and walk to the ground, alternatively park and ride options are better be it from the docks or the capital centre Quote
rigger Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 4 hours ago, MCMC1875 said: Its bloody obvious. They're not after 70 year old ladies. Have you ever travelled by train on a Saturday? Visiting footie fans have been marched to grounds with police escorts for over 40 years. Not when the trains aren't running, they haven't. Quote
tomphil Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: ....what about... police intelligence? You mean where a group of officers stand filming sections of the crowd all game at tax payers expense ? How many does it take to operate a portable camera ..... Edited November 13, 2018 by tomphil Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, rigger said: Not when the trains aren't running, they haven't. ...and back to Mussolini! Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, tomphil said: You mean where a group of officers stand filming sections of the crowd all game at tax payers expense ? How many does it take to operate a portable camera ..... How many policemen does it take to throw a suspect down the steps? None...he fell.. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Their standard ‘Plastics’ thread is underway. The jist being we are ‘plastic’ because we are taking more for a 3pm game when the club’s on the up than the live on Sky game last time when on a downer (though a fake news photo, as it’s obviously taken before KO, we had 2,500 there that evening). If this lot are bottom half when we meet at Ewood, their following will be down from when they were chasing the play offs last time - that’s just to be expected. Such a bitter bunch. https://www.pne-online.net/forum/forum/football-forums/pne-discussions/3402278-yet-they-wonder-why-we-call-them-the-plastics Edited November 13, 2018 by Mattyblue Quote
Blue n whites Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 I don't understand there bitterness. I've never had any reason to dislike or like them. Literally a vanilla club. If they won the premier league I wouldn't be bothered. I would just be gutted it wasn't us. What is all the plastic jibe about. Really are an irrelevance. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 13, 2018 Moderation Lead Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Their standard ‘Plastics’ thread is underway. The jist being we are ‘plastic’ because we are taking more for a 3pm game than the live on Sky game last time (though a fake news photo, as it’s obviously taken before KO, we had 2,500 there that evening). Such a bitter bunch. https://www.pne-online.net/forum/forum/football-forums/pne-discussions/3402278-yet-they-wonder-why-we-call-them-the-plastics ‘Largely clueless supporters’. That Worthington chap doesn’t seem to have much in the way of self-awareness. Obsessed. They must be jealous, bless them. Can understand why they’re so bitter I suppose, still never managed to achieve promotion to the PL, serial chokers in the play offs, then their arch rivals Blackpool have one attempt at promotion and achieve it first time. Absolute weirdos. Edited November 13, 2018 by K-Hod 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Blue n whites said: I don't understand there bitterness. I've never had any reason to dislike or like them. Literally a vanilla club. If they won the premier league I wouldn't be bothered. I would just be gutted it wasn't us. What is all the plastic jibe about. Really are an irrelevance. It’s because there were a few folk in Rovers shirts wandering around Fulwood 25 years ago... that’s literally it. Edited November 13, 2018 by Mattyblue Quote
Neal Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Got my ticket. Will be a tough game, a betting man would say a draw is likely. As far as their fans go, jealous bunch. Blackpool fans i've met are definitely a better bunch of folks, you can actually have a chat with them on good terms. Preston seem to be bitter of any local club who've achieved more than them in recent history... Which is pretty much every Lancashire club in this league. Edited November 13, 2018 by Neal Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Their standard ‘Plastics’ thread is underway. The jist being we are ‘plastic’ because we are taking more for a 3pm game when the club’s on the up than the live on Sky game last time when on a downer (though a fake news photo, as it’s obviously taken before KO, we had 2,500 there that evening). If this lot are bottom half when we meet at Ewood, their following will be down from when they were chasing the play offs last time - that’s just to be expected. Such a bitter bunch. https://www.pne-online.net/forum/forum/football-forums/pne-discussions/3402278-yet-they-wonder-why-we-call-them-the-plastics Haha obsessed! Literally couldn't give a toss about these lot. They are that obsessed they've started a topic soley on our club and our fans?? Ok ?? Quote
JHRover Posted November 13, 2018 Author Posted November 13, 2018 It ultimately stems from them being so much in our shadow for so long. I can understand the bitterness, I'd probably be the same if we'd spent the last 50 years in the lower leagues always behind at least one (usually more) of Rovers, Burnley, Bolton, Blackpool and Wigan. For a few years it probably isn't so bad but stretch it out across generations of being in neighbours shadows and it must really gnaw at them inside. As the self-styled 'capital city' of Lancashire they presumably think that means they should be top dogs and yet they've largely been anonymous since the early 60s whilst the town clubs around them have dined at the top table and in our case won trophies. Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 I have also worked with an office load of them for years and I’ve found some of them to have a chip on both shoulders when it comes to Rovers.. 4 Quote
JHRover Posted November 13, 2018 Author Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, meadows said: I’ve lived & worked in Preston side by side with PNE fans since 2005 and haven’t come across any with any particular hang-up about Rovers or our fans I realise I must be wrong though as every time we play them we get about 300 posts on here telling us in great detail how “they’re obsessed with us” I wonder if it’s just a case of they have a couple of childish prats on forums all day long, something of course you could never expect from our supporters On their main fans forum tonight we've had: 'I assume they've ended their little protests against the chicken farmers now?' 'Blackburn by name, plastic by nature' 'Horrible set of largely clueless supporters. I do hope we beat them again' 'Not heard a peep from them since they spent a bit of money in the summer. F***ing fickle the lot of them' I know very few PNE supporters but it's hard not to get the impression from that sample that there is quite an intense dislike of Rovers simmering there with some of their fans. No doubt those comments will be added to considerably over the next 10 days! I've not seen any comments on here of that variety towards them. They get mentioned from time to time as the derby fixture gets ranked in comparison to our others and obviously we all want to beat them but I haven't seen it reach that level on here, yet. I've personally no real strong feelings towards them, they're probably similar to Bolton whereby I don't have much time for them but won't worry too much about the result either way as I would v Burnley. I suppose at my age I've always up until last season been in a position were they were well behind us so never really had to take them too seriously. Edited November 13, 2018 by JHRover 1 Quote
Boroblue Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 There aren’t many rovers fans in the picture but there’s not that many of them either. So I assume the point being made is our travelling support is equally as poor has their home support. Nice one Quote
blueboy3333 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, meadows said: I’ve lived & worked in Preston side by side with PNE fans since 2005 and haven’t come across any with any particular hang-up about Rovers or our fans I've lived and worked amongst them a lot longer and they hate Rovers with a passion. Envy can do terrible things to a person. 5 Quote
tomphil Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) I've worked at various points with PNE fans as well as lived in an area where they were the main local team and I also have a few friends who follow them so over the years you get a good idea of how they see Rovers and our fans. Don't think hatred is the right word it's a bit different to dingle levels but certainly bitterness would describe it well or maybe jealousy but definitely a lot have that big Rovers chip on their shoulders. Possibly a generational thing 30-50 year old types who've always seen it as a rivalry from the doc boot days then for all together different reasons in the 90's when every local club got a real dose of the green eyed monster towards t'Rovers ! PNE though are a bit unique as unlike Burnley and Bolton they've never got over it because they've never scaled the Prem heights themselves and we haven't played each other that much over the last 3 decades so they haven't been able to get it out their systems with a few victories etc. I'd also say chatting to people at the school gates or over the garden fence you'd probably expect polite banter but working with a load of hairy arsed older blokes in a factory when you're 19 and the only Rover they've come across away from a match day gives a totally different feeling to it ......? Edited November 14, 2018 by tomphil 1 Quote
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