Wigan V ROVERS 28/11/18

[Miller11]

The worry for me is I don’t think Mowbray can change much, and I don’t think he really has any desire to.

Defence lacks quality and depth. Everyone knows we needed a centre half in the summer. The cynic in me would suggest Venky’s won’t stump up anything more than a nominal fee for players in this position.

Mowbray persists with Smallwood, and shows every sign of continuing to do so. He’d be 5th choice in that position for me at best.

We don’t play with wingers, we play random players nearly on the wing, who drift inside, don’t help the fullbacks and create sod all.

There is clearly more than meets the eye going on with Brereton. Conspiracy theory maybe, but there is no logical reason for him not coming on at half time. Can’t be attributed to a change of system, you’d make a double sub. Clearly Mowbray doesn’t fancy or trust him, questions need to be asked if he wanted him in the first place.

[SBlue]

Just now, BankEnd Rover said:

I will gain a little respect if Mowbray drops the players that need dropping for the next game! For the sake of his future and all the fans I hope he does.

I don’t think the squad is big enough is it?

[neophox]

Do we have a Windass at Rovers? What happened to Davenport?

[G Somerset Rover]

Looking forward to Mercer’s scathing review in this match thread before predicting we’ll thump Sheff Weds on Sat in that one.

[Oldgregg86]

Well that scoreline flattered rovers. Quote of the day came from Tony saying he's never parked the bus in his life, he only knows how to attack. I will just let that sink in....

Dack had to come back to his own box to get a touch of the ball. Bell looks like a stiff breeze would knock him over. Rodwell apparently slipped for the penalty but he completely pulled out of a 50-50 he should of won.

No fight, no heart , no desire, no idea.

Appalling

[OldEwoodBlue]

3rd division players in 2nd division

 

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

I don’t think the squad is big enough is it?

Haha I know. Basically what I mean is the likes of Travis, Brereton, Conway, Rothwell a start. Get our key players in their best position. Hopefully get something out of the next game. With the way we are going I would take a point. Get back on track.

Edited November 28, 2018 by BankEnd Rover

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, neophox said:

Do we have a Windass at Rovers? What happened to Davenport?

He's keeping Gladwin company.

[Pedro]

Just now, Tom Stinny said:

If I was 100% honest I'd need to go into the negative numbers. The only player who didn't deserve to loose was the goalkeeper.

True, but even he had no idea where his goals were when the ball was crossed.

[neophox]

Forgot we still have Gladwin... on the payroll.

[blueboy3333]

Team started like they were having a kickabout on a beach - check.

Defending was shit - check.

We couldn't pass the ball - check.

We hoofed to no avail- check.

We made the opposition look like Citeh - check.

We didn't have a shot on the target 1st half - check.

Mowbray had his head in his hands a lot - check.

We didn't score from open play - check.

I didn't watch it.

[RV Blue]

30 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

With Williams and Bell's performances of late I'd be looking at giving Travis a go at left back on Saturday he certainly can't be any worse.

Williams is solid though, ain’t he?

[neophox]

Would try this on sat:

 

Raya

Bennett, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Travis

Rothwell, Reed, Conway/Rodwell

Dack

Brereton, Armstrong

We dont have any wingers..so play a 4-3-1-2 with players in their right positions. Think Travis would Do a good job as full back!

[blueboy3333]

Our goal was so Mowbray. An own goal from a free-kick?

Tony's attacking masterclass.

[Ewood Ace]

1 minute ago, RV Blue said:

Williams is solid though, ain’t he?

He has been during his two years here but the last few games he has been poor. Sorry if that's a bit complicated for you to comprehend.

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Ewood Ace

[AAK]

5 minutes ago, Franky said:

3rd division players in 2nd division

 

Said it all season, all the defenders at the club are league 1. Mulgrew because his fitness doesn't allow him to be all that competitive at centre back in this league, over exertion and he's injured, and far to immobile and poor in the air, the difference was telling last season didn't he score something like 15 goals, this season what, 1 goal or summet like that, and tonnes conceded. Williams and bell aren't good enough at this level, and nyambe at times can be like a headless chicken. Lenihan has potential but we need more than that for what will be a scrap this season, he's also been very poor in some games. The you have downing don't need to say much there, oh amd Rodwell who's played all his career in midfield. Then you have the worst defensive midfielder in the league in Richie Smallwood, surely. 

Edited November 28, 2018 by AAK

[SBlue]

Just now, AAK said:

Said it all season, all the defenders at the club are league 1. Mulgrew because his fitness doesn't allow him to be all that competitive at centre back in this league, over exertion and he's injured, and far to immobile and poor in the air, the difference was telling last season didn't he score something like 15 goals, this season what, 1 goal or summet like that, and tonnes conceded. Williams and bell aren't good enough at this level, and nyambe at times can be like a headless chicken. Lenihan has potential but we need more than that for what will be a scrap this season, he's also been very poor in some games. The you have downing don't need to say much there. Then you have the worst defensive midfielder in the league in Richie Smallwood, surely. 

I’d give Downing a game tbh. Can’t do any worse.

[AAK]

Just now, neophox said:

Would try this on sat:

 

Raya

Bennett, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Travis

Rothwell, Reed, Conway/Rodwell

Dack

Brereton, Armstrong

We dont have any wingers..so play a 4-3-1-2 with players in their right positions. Think Travis would Do a good job as full back!

This is the problem though "such a person would do a job" but we don't really have a clue if they would and shouldn't be in that position, defenders should have been brought in. 

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, neophox said:

Would try this on sat:

 

Raya

Bennett, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Travis

Rothwell, Reed, Conway/Rodwell

Dack

Brereton, Armstrong

We dont have any wingers..so play a 4-3-1-2 with players in their right positions. Think Travis would Do a good job as full back!

I like, would swap Armstrong for graham personally. Armstrong can't hit a barn door. Graham at least has experience and has a few goals under hit belt.

[AAK]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

I’d give Downing a game tbh. Can’t do any worse.

Well I'd be contracting myself if I agreed, but then again, I suppose you are right, how much worse could they be at the back. 

[blueboy3333]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

I’d give Downing a game tbh. Can’t do any worse.

He really, really can. Dreadful defender at this level. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

Valid points about league 1 and in particular Mulgrew. 

Sunderland were an absolute train wreck in the championship last season. They are now tipping along in second in League 1. The only reason they aren't top is because Portsmouth have got off to a blistering start. It's a very poor standard. 

[AAK]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

He really, really can. Dreadful defender at this level. 

Then again there is this lol

[K-Hod]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

I’d give Downing a game tbh. Can’t do any worse.

Please don’t give him any ideas, he’s horrendous. 

[AAK]

Some of smallwood passing tonight was painful to watch, I really can't get to grips with why he is starting games, when we have Reed who can play there. 

Edited November 28, 2018 by AAK