47er Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 18 hours ago, USABlue said: Perhaps the penny has finally dropped that Premier league football will eradicate their losses AND increase their brand visibility. Maybe now they want to go for it. Bit early for that. 18 hours ago, Fraserkirky said: No need to apologize for a different opinion. Take your first point, we were tremendous that night. Was that the first time we had Travis and Reed in centre mid together? Second point, not sure if that’s the best analogy. Evans in league 1 was probably statically our best player but we all knew better. Im just disappointed in type we have been after. We need a quality CH,CM,CF and probably a right winger on loan. Nae Pensioners!! "statically"?!! On reflection........!!! 1
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roverandout Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I have read Liverpool are interested in McCarthy Get a £5 million bid in for Darren Randolph. He is top a top quality keeper. I don't know how he isn't playing in the Premier league. Actually edit, just read he is being linked with Stoke for 10 million as Butlands replacement Suuurprise. Bigging up the Irish again
roverandout Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Gallagher is shit. Why doesn't mowbary show some balls and try something different for a change? The guy is stuck in the 90s. Most manager these days, cast their net far and wide, this guy either sniffs around his old clubs or brings back ex players. Zero ambition 2
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, roverandout said: Suuurprise. Bigging up the Irish again He got in the championship team of the season. Although of course you wouldn't be aware of such things.
roverandout Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: He got in the championship team of the season. Although of course you wouldn't be aware of such things. Yes I'm aware. He's a good keeper but not for that kind of money 1
Peteb2014 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, roverandout said: Gallagher is shit. Why doesn't mowbary show some balls and try something different for a change? The guy is stuck in the 90s. Most manager these days, cast their net far and wide, this guy either sniffs around his old clubs or brings back ex players. Zero ambition You do know that the player that we have signed today has never played under him before don't you Edited July 5, 2019 by Peteb2014 2
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Peteb2014 said: You do know that the player that we have singed today has never played under him before don't you Don't even bother
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, roverandout said: Yes I'm aware. He's a good keeper but not for that kind of money So what are you shiteing on about saying I'm bigging up Irish players then?
1864roverite Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 If Raya could command the 6 yard box he would be a class keeper, trouble is he doesn’t won’t nor will he ever do! Cash in whilst we can and get a quality keeper in, happy with links to Darlow. Gally would be a quality addition, can play different styles, would complement both Graham and BB, win headers, play central,or wide or just go direct with a 4-4-2 formation when required especially with a quality supply line in Dack and Downing. Looks like patience is paying off for some???? 3
BankEnd Rover Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Neal said: Lad I know saying this... Need to charge your phone pal. Anyways....Hope your pal Tony is telling the truth. 2
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, 1864roverite said: If Raya could command the 6 yard box he would be a class keeper, trouble is he doesn’t won’t nor will he ever do! Cash in whilst we can and get a quality keeper in, happy with links to Darlow. Gally would be a quality addition, can play different styles, would complement both Graham and BB, win headers, play central,or wide or just go direct with a 4-4-2 formation when required especially with a quality supply line in Dack and Downing. Looks like patience is paying off for some???? Ya, I think that's what was at the back of my mind about Raya. I can never see him commanding his area. Too small. Keepers don't get the same protection in the championship as they do in the premier league or definitely not as much as in European competition. They actually get too much protection in my opinion! I saw the way lenihan looked at Raya a few times last season and thought something isn't right here. He was expecting him to come for things, which he didn't do, or on other occasions he came for the ball and made a well balls of it.
Ewood Ace Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 My one worry about selling Raya would be that he is being made a scapegoat for the amount of goals conceded last season and that Mowbray thinks getting rid is the answer to sorting out the goals against column. Whilst Raya was to blame for his fair share of goals conceded he was far from the only one. 9
yeti-dog Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, roverandout said: Gallagher is shit. Why doesn't mowbary show some balls and try something different for a change? The guy is stuck in the 90s. Most manager these days, cast their net far and wide, this guy either sniffs around his old clubs or brings back ex players. Zero ambition You never fail to not surprise me... even allowing for the fact that the last couple of years he hasn't done much the highlights reel of some of the goals he scored for us last time suggest he isn't 'shit'. You might also want to consider throwing out a few alternative names at the same time as dissing everything that's going on. 1
JHRover Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Worst defence in the league weaker through the loss of Downing and Rodwell and still being coached by the same staff. If Mowbray doesn't address that soon he needs help. Darlow would be an excellent addition in my opinion but without structural changes to the defence it may well be pointless. 1
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Ewood Ace said: My one worry about selling Raya would be that he is being made a scapegoat for the amount of goals conceded last season and that Mowbray thinks getting rid is the answer to sorting out the goals against column. Whilst Raya was to blame for his fair share of goals conceded he was far from the only one. That will be a concern until we bring in a new centre half. TM keeps his cards close to his chest - so let's keep fingers crossed
Backroom Mike E Posted July 5, 2019 Backroom Posted July 5, 2019 Let me get this right: A striker who scored 11 goals for us (with half a season under Owen Coyle) is 'shit'? Best not tell Danny Graham as he only scored one more that year. 5
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Ewood Ace said: My one worry about selling Raya would be that he is being made a scapegoat for the amount of goals conceded last season and that Mowbray thinks getting rid is the answer to sorting out the goals against column. Whilst Raya was to blame for his fair share of goals conceded he was far from the only one. True and I have the same feeling. Just now, JHRover said: Worst defence in the league weaker through the loss of Downing and Rodwell and still being coached by the same staff. If Mowbray doesn't address that soon he needs help. Darlow would be an excellent addition in my opinion but without structural changes to the defence it may well be pointless. Weaker through the loss of Downing and Rodwell? Mmm, not sure about that one, at all! How many games did they play combined last season at centre half, around 5? I think a new dominant keeper, with better communication will make a huge difference, even with those currently here. Still need another centre half though.
Bbrovers2288 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I may be in the minority but I’d be happy with Gallagher, unfairly judged on a horrendous season with us when he was playing with poor players for a poor manager. Still scored some good goals that year. I would still like us to sign another winger, a Jamal Lowe or a Marcus Maddison - can also play left back. Then when we were chasing a game it would give us chapman one side, new winger on the other, Johnson and Travis/ Davenport holding, and a combo of either graham/ brereton or Gallagher/ Armstrong depending on the opposition. Downing is more of a holding winger than a bomb these days. I don’t like Armstrong or rothwell on the wing get rid of Smallwood, nuttall, Samuel and Evans for me
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I think it's important we get a keeper in quickly though. Needs a few pre-season games with the defence. Not sure about that. Might scare him off!
matt83 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 If the going rate for Sam Gallagher is 5 million then Raya for 3 million is a steal. Don’t get me wrong Raya made some horrendous errors but with his age, potential and contract not up until 2021 I’d want more. 2
Bigdoggsteel Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Not sure about that. Might scare him off! Ha ha. That did cross my mind 1
matt83 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 That said I’d be happier with most of the keepers mentioned above.
yeti-dog Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Bbrovers2288 said: I may be in the minority but I’d be happy with Gallagher, unfairly judged on a horrendous season with us when he was playing with poor players for a poor manager. Still scored some good goals that year. I would still like us to sign another winger, a Jamal Lowe or a Marcus Maddison - can also play left back. Then when we were chasing a game it would give us chapman one side, new winger on the other, Johnson and Travis/ Davenport holding, and a combo of either graham/ brereton or Gallagher/ Armstrong depending on the opposition. Downing is more of a holding winger than a bomb these days. I don’t like Armstrong or rothwell on the wing get rid of Smallwood, nuttall, Samuel and Evans for me Can't disagree with any of that - particularly the deadwood we need to shift. 1
BankEnd Rover Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Bbrovers2288 said: I may be in the minority but I’d be happy with Gallagher, unfairly judged on a horrendous season with us when he was playing with poor players for a poor manager. Still scored some good goals that year. I would still like us to sign another winger, a Jamal Lowe or a Marcus Maddison - can also play left back. Then when we were chasing a game it would give us chapman one side, new winger on the other, Johnson and Travis/ Davenport holding, and a combo of either graham/ brereton or Gallagher/ Armstrong depending on the opposition. Downing is more of a holding winger than a bomb these days. I don’t like Armstrong or rothwell on the wing get rid of Smallwood, nuttall, Samuel and Evans for me Where would you have Rothwell then? Not really anywhere for him other than the wing.
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