Scotland1 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Gally, Adrian, a Jonas Ramalho released by Girona at centre back or right back and lazar markovich releases from Liverpool and I’d see up promoted ? 1
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JacknOry Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: Adrian for me . For those with the theory that playing in the Championship would be ideal for joe Hart to get his confidence back ..I think the complete opposite! He ll have twice as much to do in the Championship than he would in the PL and the more he ll have to do the more simple errors which he's prone too will happen more and more often. imagine Hart picking the ball out of the net 60 odd times like last season ..he d feel his career would be over ! Massive fall from grace. Representing Man City, then playing for Torino. Falling further down the pecking order in the PL at West Ham and then signing for an annual relegation favourite in Burnley. Next drop would then be us in the Championship and technically, we're a bottom half Championship club as things stand. I am not sure his ego for one would be able to take that. Why risk paying big wages when he is likely to turn out to be crap. 3
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Adrian, thats a new name. His nickname's " The Wall " also.
Leonard Venkhater Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: His nickname's " The Wall " also. Sign that wall! 1
Ossydave Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Adrian would be a brilliant signing. I remember him having a few moments of madness for West Ham but we ain't gonna sign the perfect keeper are we on our budget. FoRster was in my eyes Englands #1 at his peak. Bad injuries and some dodgy decisions have sent him downhill a bit in more recent times but sure theres still a quality keeper in there if he gets his confidence up.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stuart said: No defenders or no keeper? Playing out goalies - nearest to the goal is the keeper. 1
HowieFive0 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: Massive fall from grace. Representing Man City, then playing for Torino. Falling further down the pecking order in the PL at West Ham and then signing for an annual relegation favourite in Burnley. Next drop would then be us in the Championship and technically, we're a bottom half Championship club as things stand. I am not sure his ego for one would be able to take that. Why risk paying big wages when he is likely to turn out to be crap. Completely agree .. "Burnley’s performances suddenly turned around when they removed Hart from goal and replaced him with Heaton. Their defence suddenly stopped conceding as many chances close to their keeper. Their keepers have dramatically different records both when it comes to stopping shots and when it comes to claiming balls in their area. Put it all together and it makes a powerful case that the reason Burnley’s season has turned around is that Joe Hart is bad and Tom Heaton is good. Keepers, it turns out, might just be important." https://statsbomb.com/2019/02/the-great-burnley-keeper-switch/ 2
JacknOry Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: Completely agree .. "Burnley’s performances suddenly turned around when they removed Hart from goal and replaced him with Heaton. Their defence suddenly stopped conceding as many chances close to their keeper. Their keepers have dramatically different records both when it comes to stopping shots and when it comes to claiming balls in their area. Put it all together and it makes a powerful case that the reason Burnley’s season has turned around is that Joe Hart is bad and Tom Heaton is good. Keepers, it turns out, might just be important." https://statsbomb.com/2019/02/the-great-burnley-keeper-switch/ And it seems it was a similar story at West Ham, started first choice, finished second choice behind Adrian.
martonrover Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 minute ago, davulsukur said: Can't be long now. No, just the hours of spinning it out and tweets about "Agent Benno" getting ready
Fraserkirky Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, martonrover said: No, just the hours of spinning it out and tweets about "Agent Benno" getting ready Agent Benno is so cringe. 4
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Playing out goalies - nearest to the goal is the keeper. Any netter? 1
RoversClitheroe Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 In other news Charlie Albinson signs for Southport
Guest Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 All 3 mentioned above in Hart, Carson and Adrian are all better than Raya. End of discussion. Will of course all need some new defenders to protect them but like I said above all 3 are better all round goalkeepers than Raya.
AllRoverAsia Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 2 hours ago, deryck guyler's spoon said: I'm a bit shocked that K-Hod hasn't stepped in to sort out this little circle jerk of mutual misery. (well, when I say shocked...……….) Pathetic. 2
dallydally Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Mellor Rover said: All 3 mentioned above in Hart, Carson and Adrian are all better than Raya. End of discussion. Will of course all need some new defenders to protect them but like I said above all 3 are better all round goalkeepers than Raya. Don't want Hart. Over rated and prone to bad errors. Other two ok 5
FGS5635 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Football is a funny game. If pep doesnt come to city then Hart would probably still be city and england #1 He'd also be well on pace to be englands most capped player as many thought he would be whilst firmly #1 And now here we are with some fans not happy we may or may not sign him. Pep's desire for a different type of keeper really knocked his ego and confidence and he has lost his way. The reward if you can rebuild that confidence is really high. We could have a really world class keeper on our hands 6
bluebruce Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Sorry I don't follow City's doings too closely - why is Pep responsible for Hart's collapse? Seems more likely the player just lost it. Even if it started after he got benched for a new goalie or something, his fall has been too dramatic to not be down to mental shortcomings.
FGS5635 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Pep didnt want hart. He wanted to play out from the back more and wnated a keeper better with his feet and he ousted hart. Clearly for a youngman that had been trending upwards his whole life, he didnt respond well to the suprise knocking and he has lost something But even at 90-95% of his former self he would be the best keeper in this league Edited July 13, 2019 by FGS5635 1
AllRoverAsia Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, FGS5635 said: Pep didnt want hart. He wanted to play out from the back more and wnated a keeper better with his feet and he ousted hart. Clearly for a youngman that had been trending upwards his whole life, he didnt respond well to the suprise knocking and he has lost something But even at 90-95% of his former self he would be the best keeper in this league I thought we were evolving into a passing style which presumably involves the keeper. Has Hart learnt that art at Burnley I wonder?
FGS5635 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 There isnt much wrong with harts passing or kicking, it just wasnt the level pep wanted for the tactics he wanted. Lets be honest citys keeper is better than most midfeild players with the ball at his feet
Beanie01289 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Joe Hart can't save shots to his left which is a bit of a weakness. Fraser Forster is expensive and poor. Never rated Carson. So by process of elimination it's gotta be Adrian for me. 1
Beanie01289 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Beanie01289 said: Joe Hart can't save shots to his left which is a bit of a weakness. Fraser Forster is expensive and poor. Never rated Carson. So by process of elimination it's gotta be Adrian for me. That or I just hate English keepers as I think Pickford has tiny arms.
FGS5635 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 75 eng caps, over 100 premier league clean sheets, 4golden glove awards, premier league winner...............but yeah he cant save anything to his left 7
Paul Mani Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Beanie01289 said: That or I just hate English keepers as I think Pickford has tiny arms. ???? 1
Paul Mani Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Just now, FGS5635 said: 75 eng caps, over 100 premier league clean sheets, 4golden glove awards, premier league winner...............but yeah he cant save anything to his left Hart, Adrian, Ruddy, Forster and Carson are ALL better than Raya right now. Edited July 13, 2019 by Paul Mani 3
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