roverandout Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 My guess is 'boss why are you always criticizing me in public? Blaming me for everything?' 'ooo er I dooont know, we need da moooney fer some new playas. So off you goo' 1
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kokkini Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Mercer said: In 2015/16 - the season before Mowbray arrived, we finished 15th in the Championship. In 2018/19, after two and a half seasons with Mowbray in charge, we finished 15th in the Championship. We are NOT progressing! When will the penny drop? If Mowbray gets us any higher than 15th this coming season, I would be extremely surprised. We've lost a goalie with far more potential than wither Walton or Eastwood and signed Gallagher for £5million because I think Mowbray spunked £7+million away on Brereton. For me, an underwhelming window so far and that's being generous. most disengenuous post of the day 3
Mattyblue Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, OnePhilT said: Based on Mowbray's comments, if the player had his heart set on leaving, it's probably best to get the deal done, rather than having somebody who'd rather be elsewhere. I'm not sure that scenario is great for the rest of the players at the club. To be fair, if we can’t take on face value TM’s comments that he needed to be sold so we could bring in players, we can’t his comments that he wanted to leave either. 2
Glosrover Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Mercer said: In 2015/16 - the season before Mowbray arrived, we finished 15th in the Championship. In 2018/19, after two and a half seasons with Mowbray in charge, we finished 15th in the Championship. We are NOT progressing! Remind me, what position we’re we in when Mowbray arrived......
iSeeRed Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Lie_still_Rover said: Who's Martinez? An arsenal keeper we were linked with. 1
Mercer Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Biz said: Using two stats in isolation to prove a point rarely reflects well on the opinion from my experience. I mean, simply putting in a few elements of what TM inherited compared to what he’s got now would put more meat on the bone. Its a far cry from Coyles Barmy donut Loan army, in my humble opinion. Coyle brought in Mulgrew and Graham. Without those two players, I think Mowbray would have been well and truly stuffed. The only signing Mowbray has made which comes close to the success of Mulgrew and Graham is Dack.
Mercer Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, kokkini said: most disengenuous post of the day No, it's spot on. Facts don't lie. By the way, would suggest you don't use words you are unable to even spell correctly. 2
Lie_still_Rover Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 We were dead and buried under Coyle, dreadful manager that he was. Mowbray was very unfortunate to see us relegated. We bounced straight back up, he's blooded youngsters in and signed some really exciting young players: Rothwell, Gallagher, Chapman, with tons of potential.. We're in a much better place now than under Coyle.. Do you not remember the season everyone's contracts expired and we were scratching around for Fode Koite, Guthrie etc on free transfers? 2
Ewood Ace Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, OnePhilT said: Or perhaps some signings are just easier to wrap up than others... But we don't need 2 keepers we need one. We have other areas in the starting 11 that need addressing much more urgently than which goal keeper sits on the bench. Just now, Biz said: It’s not always that simple. Raya May have forced it to the extent where he would be unsettled. They may have had ample choice at that time. I don’t know the full ins and outs, hence why I’d try not to be too close minded about how and why it happened. What ever the reasons the facts are we sold a player without no replacement secured and are now scratching around for second rate replacements, who are no better than what we sold. Mowbray has previously talked about sides not selling until they have a replacement sorted yet he has gone and done the complete opposite. Just now, OnePhilT said: Based on Mowbray's comments, if the player had his heart set on leaving, it's probably best to get the deal done, rather than having somebody who'd rather be elsewhere. I'm not sure that scenario is great for the rest of the players at the club. That was last week's reason for Raya leaving from Mowbray. This week's reason was that 'We sold our goalie so we could put the money towards a centre forward and a central defender'. The only problem with that idea was that we also had to spend money to replace the goalie. 2
Mercer Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Glosrover said: Remind me, what position we’re we in when Mowbray arrived...... Mowbray's brief was to keep us that season. He told us that at Blues back in Feb. He failed - full stop. 1
Gary C Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, davulsukur said: Eh? For real? Doesn't inspire confidence to a already poor back 4
Mercer Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, roverandout said: Mowbary just can't attract decent players. He's a dinosaur of a manager. This season is only going one way and it isn't up Nail on head IMO> Also, can you see the likes of Hart, Carson and Ruddy wanting to come to Rovers with the kid Benson as goalkeeper coach! Think it's laughable.
Paul Mani Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: I wouldn’t think so if Walton comes in, can say that Walton wasn’t considered until very recently so a few deals haven’t come off. Doesn’t look very good on our recruitment to be selling our keeper without having something more solid in place. Don’t think we have reached many of our targets this summer to be honest It’s not good at all. The only sensible explanation is that they needed it for Gally. Still willing to see how the window ends. Expect a cash buy for a CB 1
geedog13 Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/blackburn-target-experienced-efl-man-to-strengthen-area-of-weakness/
Mattyblue Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Just now, OnePhilT said: I have a suspicion that a decision to loan out or even sell Leutwiler has already been made; I'm pretty sure he is going to want first-team football, and I think he'll find that in League One or possibly even at a lower Championship club. This would explain the need for two new goalkeepers - a first-teamer and a reserve. When all is said and done, I never felt comfortable with Raya in goal. Potential? Yes, but it's quite amazing how just a few months ago he was billed on here as somebody who would be a liability, and yet now he is seen as "the one that got away". I think it's the Steven Reid syndrome; absence makes the heart grow fonder. Done is done. He must have wanted to move on if he was sold this early in the window, and whether it's Mowbray not wanting him anymore, Raya not wanting to be here, or both... It no longer matters. Done is done, and we're going to be having a new goalkeeper, which I welcome, really. We need a shake up across the entire defence. Being a bit disingenuous there, yes he was making mistakes, but most knew he was full of potential. Talk was about competition and replacing the GK coach more than selling Raya. Edited July 22, 2019 by Mattyblue 1
Mattyblue Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Just now, OnePhilT said: No it's not. I think he hit a confidence block - at least at this club, anyway. I'm not fussed that he's gone and I think we needed freshening up. Talk was about the goalkeeping situation. Sorry to bring up a point about our previous goalkeeper that might back up the need for new ones. I wasn’t massively upset by it, but then I wasn’t expecting a young loanee as a replacement. Edited July 22, 2019 by Mattyblue
Mattyblue Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Swanson said: "Linked" with Fraizer Campbell. ‘Rule of 3’ Nothing to see here.
Pedro Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Mercer said: Mowbray's brief was to keep us that season. He told us that at Blues back in Feb. He failed - full stop. Do you feel the club, squad and potential is better now or before we were relegated that season?
Beanie01289 Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mercer said: In 2015/16 - the season before Mowbray arrived, we finished 15th in the Championship. In 2018/19, after two and a half seasons with Mowbray in charge, we finished 15th in the Championship. We are NOT progressing! When will the penny drop? If Mowbray gets us any higher than 15th this coming season, I would be extremely surprised. We've lost a goalie with far more potential than wither Walton or Eastwood and signed Gallagher for £5million because I think Mowbray spunked £7+million away on Brereton. For me, an underwhelming window so far and that's being generous. We are progressing sorry your just painting it in the most negative light we where in league 1 and where never really in a relegation battle that's progress from when TM took over. The squad we have now along with the youngsters we have coming through are vastly superior to the one inherited by Mowbray. 1
Hasta Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Wigan Forum discussing signing Walton permanently at the end of last season. https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/christian-walton.94382/ Mixed views. General view - Good shot stopper. Iffy on crosses and doesn't command his area.
dallydally Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Hasta said: Wigan Forum discussing signing Walton permanently at the end of last season. https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/christian-walton.94382/ Mixed views. General view - Good shot stopper. Iffy on crosses and doesn't command his area. Sounds like the guy who left!! ??? 1
Backroom DE. Posted July 22, 2019 Backroom Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Biz said: Its a far cry from Coyles Barmy donut Loan army, in my humble opinion. Bennett, Mulgrew, Evans, Graham, Williams and assumedly now Gallagher still a major part of the starting 11 so... is it really? Edited July 22, 2019 by DE. 1
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