Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Sparks Rover]

Palmer starting and paid for £3m . Wonder what Johnson sees in him that Tony couldn't even play him .....

[Tormund]

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Palmer starting and paid for £3m . Wonder what Johnson sees in him that Tony couldn't even play him .....

Probably plays him in the right position for a start.

[Eddie]

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Palmer starting and paid for £3m . Wonder what Johnson sees in him that Tony couldn't even play him .....

Probably a place for him in the team? 

We can't play Palmer without dropping Dack. If we dropped Dack I would rather play Rothwell. So you'd spend 3m on a player who would be 3rd in the pecking order? 

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Eddie said:

Probably a place for him in the team? 

We can't play Palmer without dropping Dack. If we dropped Dack I would rather play Rothwell. So you'd spend 3m on a player who would be 3rd in the pecking order? 

I never said that. I'd have palmer in the squad , in fact at the moment Dack looks spent 

Edited August 4, 2019 by Sparks Rover

[Eddie]

I am as frustrated as anyone on here by our transfer activity and the way we started the season but can people please stop analysing what managers say in public. 

Some managers will happily throw their players under the bus (Mourinho). Some managers will defend their players until the very end (Guardiola).

What a manager says in public is not a reflection of how he feels, what he says to the players, or what he will do. 

Be critical as you want of our actual transfers and how we played yesterday, but let's stop pretending that Mowbray drinks some truth serum before he steps in front of the press. 

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, Eddie said:

Probably a place for him in the team? 

We can't play Palmer without dropping Dack. If we dropped Dack I would rather play Rothwell. So you'd spend 3m on a player who would be 3rd in the pecking order? 

We spent £7 Million on a striker who still can't even get on the pitch when we need a goal.

[tomphil]

6 million plus add ons for Brereton, where is he in the pecking order ?

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

We spent £7 Million on a striker who still can't even get on the pitch when we need a goal.

Yes, Buckley coming on instead of Brereton was puzzling to say the least. Johnson immediately had to cover for Buckley and the whole thing changed.

[Eddie]

God, the f*cking Brereton discussion. 

Did I sign him? Is he the counter-argument to every point that is made? 

I personally think Brereton will turn out to be good. Would I have spent 7m on him over signing players for more important areas of the squad? No. 

Do I think he deserves to be given a little bit of slack on this messageboard? Yes. 

[1864roverite]

Just now, Tormund said:

Probably plays him in the right position for a start.

21 mins in and Palmer not done a single thing

[Tormund]

Just now, 1864roverite said:

21 mins in and Palmer not done a single thing

Bit like our lad yesterday.

[tomphil]

Just now, Eddie said:

God, the f*cking Brereton discussion. 

Did I sign him? Is he the counter-argument to every point that is made? 

I personally think Brereton will turn out to be good. Would I have spent 7m on him over signing players for more important areas of the squad? No. 

Do I think he deserves to be given a little bit of slack on this messageboard? Yes. 

It is a perfectly justified reply to your post about Palmer, yes he'd never have fit into TMs systems so fair enough it would've been a waste of money but you me and the gate post know that a 3 mill sub in the Championship isn't unusual these days. So looking at it just from a money angle which you appeared to be is empty as one game before long we'll have 15 milion pounds worth of forwards sat on the bench no doubt at all.

[Eddie]

Just now, tomphil said:

It is a perfectly justified reply to your post about Palmer, yes he'd never have fit into TMs systems so fair enough it would've been a waste of money but you me and the gate post know that a 3 mill sub in the Championship isn't unusual these days. So looking at it just from a money angle which you appeared to be is empty as one game before long we'll have 15 milion pounds worth of forwards sat on the bench no doubt at all.

No. Because Palmer would be 3rd choice for 1 spot. 

Personally, I would be starting Brereton now, but in the very least I would have him as second choice for 1 spot (with the possibility that we could actually play 2 up front). 

So, no, not quite the same as the Palmer situation and we are now discussing players that we should add to our current squad - not decisions that were made 12 months ago. 

We have the squad that we have now. The question is how can we make it better. 

[RovingRover]

£1.25 million = The total sum of cash transfer signings we have made for our defence in 6 seasons. £10.6 million = The total sum of cash transfer sales we have made for our defence in 6 seasons.

• Shane Duffy - £400,000 - Everton - Since left 
• Elliott Ward - Free Transfer - Bournemouth - Since left

• Gordon Greer - Free Transfer - Brighton & Hove Albion - Since left

• Derrick Williams - £250,000 - Bristol City - Shouldn't be a guaranteed starter/inconsistent

• Charlie Mulgrew - Free Transfer - Celtic - Awful defender

• Wes Brown - Free Transfer - Sunderland - Since left

• Paul Caddis - Free Transfer - Bury - Since left

• Sam Hart - Under £100,000 - Liverpool - Meh at League One level

• Paul Downing - £200,000 - Milton Keynes Dons - Released on a free to Portsmouth

• Amari'i Bell - £250,000-£300,000 - Fleetwood Town - Shouldn't be in the 1st team

• Jack Rodwell - Free Transfer - Sunderland - Since left

In addition to these signings (and subsequent departures), we have also seen the additional departures of Bradley Orr (no great loss), Josh Morris (talented), Tommy Spurr (solid), Grant Hanley (never replaced), Adam Henley (injury prone) and Matthew Kilgallon (solid if not unspectacular).

Our defence is currently made up of Ryan Nyambe (academy), Derrick Williams (Bristol City signing), Charlie Mulgrew (Glasgow Celtic signing - arguably not his natural position), Amari'i Bell (Fleetwood Town signing), Darragh Lenihan (academy), Sam Hart (Liverpool academy), Elliott Bennett (Norwich City signing - out of position), Tyler Magloire (academy) and Tosin Adarabioyo (Man City academy).

It should come as no surprise that we have a poor defence when it is made up from Free Agents, low cost League One players, injury prone players and academy players. The defence has suffered chronic under-funding for way too long now and that doesn't look as if it is going to end any time soon.

Edited August 4, 2019 by RovingRover

[geedog13]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/blackburn-and-brentford-keen-on-signing-23-year-old-defender/

[Fraserkirky]

Think Dack will be sold before Thurs if someone stumps up the 12m+ it would take.

Maybe Leeds or West Brom.

Edited August 4, 2019 by Fraserkirky

[blondie]

 

Just now, Fraserkirky said:

Think Dack will be sold before Thurs if someone stumps up the 12m+ it would take.

Maybe Leeds or West Brom.

Not if they have been watching him since Xmas.

[Waggy76]

Just now, Fraserkirky said:

Think Dack will be sold before Thurs if someone stumps up the 12m+ it would take.

Maybe Leeds or West Brom.

Selling your best player and goalscorer is not a good idea !!

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Waggy76 said:

Selling your best player and goalscorer is not a good idea !!

Best player is Johnson followed by Rothwell 

[rigger]

Just now, Waggy76 said:

Selling your best player and goalscorer is not a good idea !!

But getting a good deal for someone who isn’t contributing as much as you want, is.

[Waggy76]

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Best player is Johnson followed by Rothwell 

I beg to differ !!

Dack is in his 3rd season , rather a good so far !!!

If the other 2 perform as well over the next 24 months I will agree with you !

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Waggy76 said:

I beg to differ !!

Dack is in his 3rd season , rather a good so far !!!

If the other 2 perform as well over the next 24 months I will agree with you !

Only as good as your last game in football and Dack hasn't played for 6 months.  Pace hasn't improved either.  Looks like the yoga was a waste of time.  I'd have got a sprint coach in. Johnson is a class above Dack.

Edited August 4, 2019 by Sparks Rover

[Waggy76]

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Only as good as your last game in football and Dack hasn't played for 6 months.  Pace hasn't improved either.  Looks like the yoga was a waste of time.  I'd have got a sprint coach in. Johnson is a class above Dack.

If you say so !!

[Heinz]

Are we still in for Mile Skoric? I saw his team got knocked out of the Euros last week. Or maybe Jan Arie van der Heijden from Feyenoord, who is deperate to look for another club before the closing of the window.

Hope Mowbray stays true to his word and brings in some additional defenders this week.

[AdamRochina]

i agree with sparks tbh, dack just dosent look the player he was before,  i would prefer rothwell over him right now,  give him a kick up the ass maybe