Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Bbrovers2288]

Just now, Mercer said:

If true, he's off.

Might well be the reason for the Hanley and Murphy speculation.

Dack going would be no surprise at all.

Gotta say, I like dack as a player but iv been open to him moving in the last few windows. He needs to for his own career, we get some decent money for him, and it allows rothwell to be the main man. I wouldn’t be distraught if this was to Happen, certainly if we used it for a centre back and a player like Murphy in 

[tomphil]

Two in over last 12 months for c 12 m   and potentially one out for similar amount. There'll be no more invested its already been spent TM has hinted aft front loading before a sale in the past.

His wage space might get used though but probably on yet another mid.

[Fraserkirky]

Even shite teams like Reading are splashing the cash. Relegation Battle is what we are looking at I’m afraid.

[Bbrovers2288]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

No chance unless they sell Zaha they do not have the cash

Il remind you that the sold wan bassaka for a stupid amount 

[jones_rover]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

No chance unless they sell Zaha they do not have the cash

They sold Wan Bissaka for £50m

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Can’t see Dack going now. We’re not desperate to sell and £12m is around £8m shy of the going rate for decent Championship players. 

[TBTF]

4 hours ago, Miller11 said:

These are the questions I submitted prior to the consultation meeting:

Could you outline the process that Tony has to go through to get a transfer green-lighted?

• Who decides what we will pay for a player and negotiates?
• Is Tony given a budget to spend as he sees fit, or does he identify targets and leave the issue of fees to thers? If so, who?
• Do the owners offer opinion on what they feel we need as a team? Do they suggest players or veto suggestions?
• From what has been reported previously, there seems a lot of back and forth between Ewood and Pune, which could make the transfer process somewhat convoluted. Could a situation arise where we sign a player for more than Tony would value them at, or even sign a player Tony doesn’t necessarily want?

 

Do the club/owners have an aversion to signing defenders?

• Since Venky’s took over we have recouped circa £45 million on selling defenders, whereas we have only spent around £6.5 million on defenders during that period (85% of which went on one player)
• There is a perception that we have a “make do and mend” approach to the defence, often with players playing out of position at the back
• There seems a willingness to spend money in other areas when it is apparent to most that our defence has been something of an Achilles heel for years now. We have had a high turnover of players in defensive positions, but we have invariably replaced players we have sold for decent sums with free or nominal fee transfers
• When Venky’s first came along they spoke about their preference for “exciting, young, attacking players” – the transfer history during their tenure supports this, but does this extend to an unwillingness to sanction spending on defensive players?

 

Are the board/management team regularly set objectives by Venky’s? How often are these reviewed?

• On pitch – what are the expectations? What was there reaction to our recent poor run of form? How aware of they and are they interested?
• Commercially – Are they aware of attendance levels, do they have any desire to improve this? Would the board need to seek approval for any radical changes to ticket pricing or other incentives aimed at improving gates?
• How accountable or the senior staff at the club, and how deeply do the Venky’s scrutinise what goes on at the club?

 

While it currently makes sense for Venky’s to continue to subsidise the running of the club and convert sums loaned to shares, the long term implications are worrying. They cannot keep doing this indefinitely.

• What is the long term plan to prevent the club haemorrhaging money? Realistically, increasing revenue (promotion) or severely cutting costs seem the only viable ways to achieve this – is there any immediate pressure to do either?
• What is Venky’s motivation for continued ownership? There can’t be any major benefit to their other business interests, despite murmurings after they initially took over no apparent attempts have been made for them to branch into UK markets. In fact, their brand image has undeniably suffered in the UK.
• Steve Gibson recently proposed a measure to allow greater transparency of club accounts, this was rejected by Championship clubs. What are your thoughts on this, and more generally the role of the EFL in such matters?

 

Sadly a number of former players have passed away recently with no acknowledgement from the club. While I don’t think it is realistic to honour each and every former player with a minutes silence, failure to put anything in the programme, or mention a few words over the PA at the next match seems somewhat disrespectful, and has irked fans on social media. Please could the club look into ensuring at least a mention is made when such sad events happen.

 

 

They answered the ones about Transfer process, Finances and Venky’s objective setting pretty comprehensively. 

The deceased players wasn’t addressed (perhaps due to time issues).

The one about defenders was pre-empted and referred back to. It wasn’t answered as methodically as the others, but obviously everyone’s heard what Mowbray had to say about the defence. While they didn’t address the more specific points they reiterated all signings were Mowbray’s and were very convincing in their insistence we would sign defenders.

 

After the event a group of people were talking with Mowbray and I was involved. We got even more of his impassioned promises that defenders were coming. That’s when he made the comments about wanting better than Bauer. His words were “We tried to sign him last year, now he’s on a free his agent thinks he’s worth 40/50 grand a week. He’s been playing in league one. We need bigger and better. We need someone who’s going to come straight in and improve the starting 11”. I said something off the cuff “We should go for Jake Cooper from Millwall”, to which he replied “Yeah, players like that. He could be one we are looking at”. Aside from this there was some general discussion about the defence not being good enough, he was borderline ridiculing them for being scared/unable to head a ball.

 

With Waggott, I’d mentioned during the main part of the Q&A that I was one of the remaining boycotters. He said “we need you to come back” and asked for ideas to get more people through the door.

At the end I spoke to him one to one and told him that I was on the verge of buying a season ticket, but he had to understand the nonsense we had been through (he said ‘I know, I know’). He knew who I was and felt it would be a “positive statement for the club if you do come back”. I told him I doubted some of what he’d said, but I’d take him at his word, and that I felt for the first time in a long time we had people at the club being allowed to get on with their job, who valued the fans opinions and were working in our best interests. I thanked him for this but said that the proof would be in the transfer business we carried out. He reiterated that defenders were coming, and that we would be making signings to push the top 6. He raves about Rankin-Costello a bit too.

 

The last part is exactly where I’m at . They have about 18 hours to sort themselves out or I’m not going this season .

 I made a pact with my self at the end of last season to see what we did transfer wise ( I was still stumped by what they did with the Brereton deal). I heard all that went on , heard all the statements they made and like you Miller , I thought let’s see if actions speak louder than words .

Technically there’s  still time tomorrow but whatever happens I simply refuse to pay for the privilege again of being perpetually lied to . This Club stinks to high heaven and even the one guy with a shred of decency is now proving to be like the rest of them .

so Mr Waggott , if you want to know how to achieve your stretch target on tickets , you wish to know what you can do to get fans back in the ground , well I”ll tell you . 

You can stop lying through your teeth , taking us all for mugs time and again and do your bloody job and that’s on the crass assumption that you’re capable of doing it to any extent .

one Summer of bullshit too many for me I’m afraid . I simply can’t stand to keep getting myself worked up over these complete cretins. 

Very sad because I’ve been going for over 50 years but they’ve finally drummed it out of me . Well played Waggott and Mowbray , feed that back to your benefactor model goons in Pune . 

[Mercer]

Just now, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Can’t see Dack going now. We’re not desperate to sell and £12m is around £8m shy of the going rate for decent Championship players. 

Who says we aren't desperate to sell?

Mowbray muted the sale of Dack in Blues back in Feb..

[PeteJD13]

Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

Il remind you that the sold wan bassaka for a stupid amount 

I know but they have massive overheads with big wages and limited income streams PL money aside. My wifes a palace fan the owners are looking to sell and they have to bank cash for the stadium re development

[Bbrovers2288]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

I know but they have massive overheads with big wages and limited income streams PL money aside. My wifes a palace fan the owners are looking to sell and they have to bank cash for the stadium re development

Regardless 12 mill is a drop in the ocean to a prem team 

[islander200]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

I know but they have massive overheads with big wages and limited income streams PL money aside. My wifes a palace fan the owners are looking to sell and they have to bank cash for the stadium re development

they have bid 23 million for a Russian striker according to sky.Bid in for McCarthy at Everton.Hodgson said hoping to bring in 5 before deadline 

[Vilesinner]

Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

Regardless 12 mill is a drop in the ocean to a prem team 

18 million would be a more fair amount I'd say. 

[PeteJD13]

Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

Regardless 12 mill is a drop in the ocean to a prem team 

You would be surprised they are still paying off Benteke Sorloth and Sakho. I would be amazed if they went for Dack they don't really play with a 10 

[PeteJD13]

Just now, islander200 said:

they have bid 23 million for a Russian striker according to sky.Bid in for McCarthy at Everton.Hodgson said hoping to bring in 5 before deadline 

Chalov?? I assume from CSKA, I think the DACK rumour came from a random twitter account. Will be more interesting to see what they do with Zaha.

Back to rovers still not convinced anyones coming in

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Just now, TBTF said:

The last part is exactly where I’m at . They have about 18 hours to sort themselves out or I’m not going this season .

 I made a pact with my self at the end of last season to see what we did transfer wise ( I was still stumped by what they did with the Brereton deal). I heard all that went on , heard all the statements they made and like you Miller , I thought let’s see if actions speak louder than words .

Technically there’s  still time tomorrow but whatever happens I simply refuse to pay for the privilege again of being perpetually lied to . This Club stinks to high heaven and even the one guy with a shred of decency is now proving to be like the rest of them .

so Mr Waggott , if you want to know how to achieve your stretch target on tickets , you wish to know what you can do to get fans back in the ground , well I”ll tell you . 

You can stop lying through your teeth , taking us all for mugs time and again and do your bloody job and that’s on the crass assumption that you’re capable of doing it to any extent .

one Summer of bullshit too many for me I’m afraid . I simply can’t stand to keep getting myself worked up over these complete cretins. 

Very sad because I’ve been going for over 50 years but they’ve finally drummed it out of me . Well played Waggott and Mowbray , feed that back to your benefactor model goons in Pune . 

A bad window and you’re refusing to go? After all these years, this is where you’ve drawn the line?

Chief Exec and Manager try to spin their way through a fans forum. That’s life. Take it with a pinch of salt. They’ll all say what we want to hear. Every manager plays that game, let’s not pretend TM is the first.

I said I’d wait to judge until tomorrow and the writing is clearly on the wall. But save the drama. Far greater crimes have been committed at this club over the last 10 years. 

TM has now made his bed. He’s had time and money to get the squad to where it should be. If the results don’t come in then it’ll be time to move on. The credit from 17/18 has run out.

Edited August 7, 2019 by magicalmortensleftpeg

[Tom Greenwood]

Scott Carson signing for Manchester City 

[Ruaney]

[TBTF]

Just now, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

A bad window and you’re refusing to go? After all these years, this is where you’ve drawn the line?

Chief Exec and Manager try to spin their way through a fans forum..?

I said I’d wait to judge until tomorrow and the writing is clearly on the wall. But save the drama. Far greater crimes have been committed at this club over the last 10 years. 

TM has now made his bed. He’s had time and money to get the squad to where it should be. If the results don’t come in then it’ll be time to move on. The credit from 17/18 has run out.

Tbh Morten , yes . I ve simply  had enough . It’s not one bad window , it’s an accumulation of bullshit in avalanche proportions from chancers within the Club. 

We are being mugged off by some slimy fool who turned up minutes ago . Our Club means jack shit to that toe rag yet he pontificates like it’s in his blood. 

You want stretch target - well unlike that bullshitting clown , I’ve reached mine!!

[Bbrovers2288]

Just now, Vilesinner said:

18 million would be a more fair amount I'd say. 

I don’t think dack has earned a prem move the way he has played 2019 if I’m honest

[bluebruce]

15 minutes ago, RovingRover said:

Crystal Palace might be interested in Bradley Dack.

£12 million seems to be the asking price.

They can eat dicks as far as I'm concerned, if that's what they'll pay.

If that's all we are asking, our entire management team need to go. Which they probably do anyway tbf.

Edited August 7, 2019 by bluebruce

[Mercer]

Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

I don’t think dack has earned a prem move the way he has played 2019 if I’m honest

You have to respect Roy Hodgson's managerial career but this is the guy who allowed Rovers to spend £10million on Christian Dailly and Nathan Blake just over 20 years ago.  So it would be no surprise if he's happy to stump up £12million for Dack which I reckon would be a good deal for us given, as you refer to, Dack's perforamances in 2019.

[ChrisPriceBaldSpot]

Just now, Mercer said:

You have to respect Roy Hodgson's managerial career but this is the guy who allowed Rovers to spend £10million on Christian Dailly and Nathan Blake just over 20 years ago.  So it would be no surprise if he's happy to stump up £12million for Dack which I reckon would be a good deal for us given, as you refer to, Dack's perforamances in 2019.

12 million would be an insult when some second rate Bristol City defender goes for £20 million. 

[roversfan99]

Dack scored I think more than any midfielder in the league despite playing for the 15th best side who played monotonous football. Safe to say that our best player is the least of our worries.

[Mercer]

Just now, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

12 million would be an insult when some second rate Bristol City defender goes for £20 million. 

If it was your money, would you buy Dack for £12million?

I think Dack, just like Rhodes, will disappear with barely a trace should he leave Rovers.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Mercer

[Pedro]

13 minutes ago, RovingRover said:

I think we would.
But the clubs selling would have us over a rope. They could dictate price and terms because of the late hour.

Give us 12m plus Dann.