MarkBRFC Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Fraserkirky said: Appears like Mulgrew might be away at the end of season, but I would keep a hold of Rodwell if possible. Can't see that at all.
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Butty Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Fraserkirky said: I’d have Bauer and Hanley in here this summer. Would be pleased with both and just what we need. Appears like Mulgrew might be away at the end of season, but I would keep a hold of Rodwell if possible. Rhodes would be a hard pass for me. Mulgrew going back up North? Haven’t seen anything linking him with a move away?
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 We need leaders - whoever comes in needs to be a leader. The ones we have are not good enough. I think Bennett gets shoehorned in just because he has a bit of leadership in him - ability wise he doesnt deserve a spot. Mulgrew is waning and DG will be a year older. Other than those three, do you see leadership in our team?
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: We need leaders - whoever comes in needs to be a leader. The ones we have are not good enough. I think Bennett gets shoehorned in just because he has a bit of leadership in him - ability wise he doesnt deserve a spot. Mulgrew is waning and DG will be a year older. Other than those three, do you see leadership in our team? You could certainly make a case for Lenihan. Possibly Dack too as I would class his work rate as showing leadership.
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 9 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: The Macauley Bonne link is a Nixon, us and Bolton, so essentially made up. Lots of goals though. From a £7 MIL apprentice to a cheap as chips National League player? Now that part is believeable. Scored 25 goals last season, and has 20 in 31 games this season. Admittedly those have come against the likes of Maidstone but could be worth a go if cheap. Does reak of being another profit turning project if true though.
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: You could certainly make a case for Lenihan. Possibly Dack too as I would class his work rate as showing leadership. Lenihan has potential yeah and could become a future captain but I would like leaders that dont have fitness issues. Dack, meh, workrate sometimes but I wouldnt have him down as captain material. 1
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: Lenihan has potential yeah and could become a future captain but I would like leaders that dont have fitness issues. Dack, meh, workrate sometimes but I wouldnt have him down as captain material. No, but not every leader can or needs to be captain.
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: Scored 25 goals last season, and has 20 in 31 games this season. Admittedly those have come against the likes of Maidstone but could be worth a go if cheap. Does reak of being another profit turning project if true though. Is that not the idea? Has it not always being how we did things?
rovers11 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 A summer re-shuffle is required after many of the players have now shown they struggle to compete at this level. I can understand why TM wanted to give this group f players a chance to prove themselves, but they've now had their time and it's time to re-shape the squad. We need a couple of proper centre halves who just head, kick, block everything that comes their way. That's what we're missing. Why on earth he let Downing go I will never know. A new LB is certainly required too at that's where other teams target us at the moment. We lack a lot of firepower and rely too heavily on Dack and Graham. I believe that Chapman, Armstrong, Rothwell and Brereton will become very good players for this club but we need more established players as well. Travis as well will be a top player, and already is to a certain extent. Davenport will hopefully be a step up too. Plus, we have some talented youngsters in the youth team (Buckley etc) so the future is bright. However, we need some more leaders for the here and now. Dack has been off form the second half of the season and that has meant we've had very little creativity aside from lumping balls into Graham. A couple of proper centre halves and a left + some more creative players and I think we'll be a very good team. We're actually not that far off being a good team. 1
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: No, but not every leader can or needs to be captain. Not really saying they need to be captain. I just want a few more players that take responsibility, have a bit of fire in their belly. We're a soft touch. 2
tomphil Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said: Can't see that at all. Me neither who's going to pick up the tab he's earning here ?
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Is that not the idea? Has it not always being how we did things? No it hasnt always how we have done things. Sure, we have always needed to sell to balance the books but this doesnt mean that EVERY transfer should be made with an eye on profit. What I would give for some hardened 30-year old CBs with years of Championship experience. Who cares if we dont make any money on them - let the likes of BB make us our money - cough cough. 1
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Not really saying they need to be captain. I just want a few more players that take responsibility, have a bit of fire in their belly. We're a soft touch. Completely agree
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: No it hasnt always how we have done things. Sure, we have always needed to sell to balance the books but this doesnt mean that EVERY transfer should be made with an eye on profit. What I would give for some hardened 30-year old CBs with years of Championship experience. Who cares if we dont make any money on them - let the likes of BB make us our money - cough cough. It just seemed an odd critique that we are only signing a player from non league to turn a profit. I mean it's logical to think that if he does well, it will be good for us and therefore will turn a profit. We have seen what 7 million gets you, so I wouldn't see an issue with taking a chance on this fella from non-league. As long as we use our budget to get a few strong leaders in elsewhere.
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, rovers11 said: A summer re-shuffle is required after many of the players have now shown they struggle to compete at this level. I can understand why TM wanted to give this group f players a chance to prove themselves, but they've now had their time and it's time to re-shape the squad. We need a couple of proper centre halves who just head, kick, block everything that comes their way. That's what we're missing. Why on earth he let Downing go I will never know. A new LB is certainly required too at that's where other teams target us at the moment. We lack a lot of firepower and rely too heavily on Dack and Graham. I believe that Chapman, Armstrong, Rothwell and Brereton will become very good players for this club but we need more established players as well. Travis as well will be a top player, and already is to a certain extent. Davenport will hopefully be a step up too. Plus, we have some talented youngsters in the youth team (Buckley etc) so the future is bright. However, we need some more leaders for the here and now. Dack has been off form the second half of the season and that has meant we've had very little creativity aside from lumping balls into Graham. A couple of proper centre halves and a left + some more creative players and I think we'll be a very good team. We're actually not that far off being a good team. Spot on. We have enough 'for the future' types now. Time for some experienced pros to come in. 1
JacknOry Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: It just seemed an odd critique that we are only signing a player from non league to turn a profit. I mean it's logical to think that if he does well, it will be good for us and therefore will turn a profit. We have seen what 7 million gets you, so I wouldn't see an issue with taking a chance on this fella from non-league. As long as we use our budget to get a few strong leaders in elsewhere. Just saying that it is hardly what we need right now. Another gamble type signing. In isolation it could be a good move but I would certainly be expecting more from our summer recruitment than a guy banging in the goals at a level not much higher than Sunday league.
darrenrover Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Tyrone Mings was outstanding at the back for Villa yesterday against Birmingham. He's on loan from Bournemouth and based on that display, looks like just the type of player we need. Could be worth a shout. 1
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Just now, darrenrover said: Tyrone Mings was outstanding at the back for Villa yesterday against Birmingham. He's on loan from Bournemouth and based on that display, looks like just the type of player we need. Could be worth a shout. Exactly the type of player we NEEDED. On loan , in January. Edited March 11, 2019 by Bigdoggsteel 5
Bigdoggsteel Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, JacknOry said: Just saying that it is hardly what we need right now. Another gamble type signing. In isolation it could be a good move but I would certainly be expecting more from our summer recruitment than a guy banging in the goals at a level not much higher than Sunday league. I would be expecting more also, but I wouldn't be against this signing.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Not really saying they need to be captain. I just want a few more players that take responsibility, have a bit of fire in their belly. We're a soft touch. We have been for a while. When did we last sign a player with real fire in his belly and a bit of aggression.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, JacknOry said: No it hasnt always how we have done things. Sure, we have always needed to sell to balance the books but this doesnt mean that EVERY transfer should be made with an eye on profit. What I would give for some hardened 30-year old CBs with years of Championship experience. Who cares if we dont make any money on them - let the likes of BB make us our money - cough cough. The money spent on some battle hardened players comes when you get promoted.
Oldgregg86 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) I still think Robert huth would have come and made a massive difference until the end of the season. Where's chaddy to tell me that we don't need him now A proper defender and leader that can head a ball......for free . Glad we kept or powder dry though Edited March 11, 2019 by Oldgregg86 6
AJW Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 On 10 March 2019 at 11:17, Don Said said: I caught the Charlton v Pompey game on Sky yesterday evening. Patrick Bauer, Charltons captain at centre back who we were heavily linked with in summer was excellent. Won EVERYTHING in the air, blocked everything, dragged the rest of the Charlton side in to position at set pieces and looked very confident in possession. They don’t call him Big Effin German for nothing - the bloke is exactly the type we need. I’d also want to bring in another centre back with lots of experience at this level or above as well as him, but Bauer alone would surely be a huge upgrade on each of Rodwell and Mulgrew. South London shopping spree with Millwalls Jake Cooper and Pape Soure from Palace as well would suit me
47er Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Both Ipswich and Bolton have better keepers than us in my opinion. Perhaps a move there after their relegation? Unless its our relegation of course!
RevidgeBlue Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 12 hours ago, rovers11 said: A summer re-shuffle is required after many of the players have now shown they struggle to compete at this level. I can understand why TM wanted to give this group f players a chance to prove themselves, but they've now had their time and it's time to re-shape the squad. We need a couple of proper centre halves who just head, kick, block everything that comes their way. That's what we're missing. Why on earth he let Downing go I will never know. A new LB is certainly required too at that's where other teams target us at the moment. We lack a lot of firepower and rely too heavily on Dack and Graham. I believe that Chapman, Armstrong, Rothwell and Brereton will become very good players for this club but we need more established players as well. Travis as well will be a top player, and already is to a certain extent. Davenport will hopefully be a step up too. Plus, we have some talented youngsters in the youth team (Buckley etc) so the future is bright. However, we need some more leaders for the here and now. Dack has been off form the second half of the season and that has meant we've had very little creativity aside from lumping balls into Graham. A couple of proper centre halves and a left + some more creative players and I think we'll be a very good team. We're actually not that far off being a good team. We're a million miles off being a good team imo. It's easier to see if there's anyone good enough going forward. Raya (maybe) Nyambe, Lenihan (maybe) Travis, Chapman (maybe) Dack (if his head's in the right place). Arguably we need a LB, 2 x CB, one top class central midfield player, another decent wide player and at least one main striker to replace Graham if not two proven strikers at Championship level. Absolutely massive rebuilding job required. 5
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