Summer Transfer Window 2019

[ossyian]

Just now, LDRover said:

And you know that for sure?

So why did the club not get paid out in the well documented court case years ago when Martin Dahlin hardly kicked a ball for us and subsequently retired?

If arbitro (who has worked in the game for years) has not heard of this arrangement your statement sounds a bit sketchy to me.

Not totally sure on the Dahlin case but think there was a long standing problem when he joined and not picked up /reported correctly (in his contract) hence insurance void

[arbitro]

Just now, ossyian said:

A portion of players wages are deducted to pay into the policy

I don't understand then why a player would voluntarily pay for an insurance policy that they wouldn't benefit from. The club have to pay them even when they are injured so surely it should be incumbent on the club to pay the premium. I know that all players are insured by the PFA but that is only if they have to retire through injury, it doesn't cover wages because that is the clubs responsibility.

[ossyian]

Just now, LDRover said:

So how do you deal with , say, a dead leg that keeps someone out for a week, or a back strain? You must be inundated with claims?

The club pays and then claims as in any other insurance policy. Done monthly usually

[ossyian]

Just now, arbitro said:

I don't understand then why a player would voluntarily pay for an insurance policy that they wouldn't benefit from. The club have to pay them even when they are injured so surely it should be incumbent on the club to pay the premium. I know that all players are insured by the PFA but that is only if they have to retire through injury, it doesn't cover wages because that is the clubs responsibility.

Its not voluntary. Its mandatory

[arbitro]

Just now, ossyian said:

Its not voluntary. Its mandatory

Sorry to prolong this but who mandates them? 

I'm not doubting you by the way. I just can't understand why any employee would have to contribute to an insurance scheme that benefits their employer.

[bluebruce]

Just now, ossyian said:

The club pays and then claims as in any other insurance policy. Done monthly usually

OK, so the club does pay for it, not the player. That's what I'd have thought.

I don't know tons about how player insurance works...but every type of insurance I've had is yearly. I would assume football is either the same, or over the length of the contract. The contract just ended, so if we sign him on another the premium will need to be worked out again right? I can't imagine the premium is unchanged on a player who has spent the last two years injured.

Unless you can tell me how I'm misunderstanding the above, I'm not sure where your claim that this won't cost the club a penny is coming from.

I imagine the insurance doesn't cover the period where he isn't technically injured but is on the comeback trail (when we get no benefit from him), and therefore we'll be paying his wages then at the least. Insurance isn't some big free giveaway, it costs. The more likely you are to claim, the more it costs.

[Josh]

Can this not be put in a Ben Gladwin thread? Page after page on the same subject

[Husky]

Can someone send me a PM when we actually sign someone.

Thanks ever so much pals ?

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Husky said:

Can someone send me a PM when we actually sign someone.

Thanks ever so much pals ?

Page 129 would be my guess. See you then... 

[Stuart]

From Joe Hart to Frank Fielding.

You heard it here first, from Joe 90.

[blueboy3333]

7 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

I agree, time for us all to bring it back on topic.

@JoeHarvey, seen your article on Frank Fielding; you might have to defend yourself a bit on here if you keep this up!

Fielding has been released by BCFC. Why would we pay a 'small fee'?

 

[bluebruce]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Fielding has been released by BCFC. Why would we pay a 'small fee'?

 

Because we're a charity now.

[Oldgregg86]

2 hours ago, Pedro said:

He'd have been on a minimum of 5k a week for the past 2 years. Hardly the breadline ?

If he's on that he will have earned what it would take me 20 years to earn  to go to the gym a few times a week. I would have pay to use a gym after a 15 hour day but yeah it must be hard for him

Edited May 16, 2019 by Oldgregg86

[Butty]

34 minutes ago, Stuart said:

From Joe Hart to Frank Fielding.

You heard it here first, from Joe 90.

Not much difference in quality between them two these days, Harts been finished since his awful showing at Euro 2016. Rather have Fielding! 

[joey_big_nose]

1 hour ago, blueboy3333 said:

Page 129 would be my guess. See you then... 

I honestly reckon that's on the low side personally. Could easily be 200 pages before we see someone come in.

[tomphil]

When a player is off Specialist treatment and enters rehab in his own club going in daily and working with their own physios, doc and coaches isn't he technically back at work ?

[bluebruce]

39 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

Fielding is also a former England international, rather than just a former England under-21 international. Carson; Hart; Fielding... I think some writers have been guessing who this former England international goalkeeper is.

Frank Fielding hasn't ever played for the full England team...has he? Wikipedia doesn't think so. A game kept on the bench, you mean?

[tomphil]

So we'd have 3 keepers of very similar stature and ability but one with more experience than others but who will be 2nd choice and not one big commanding keeper amongst them ?  You know the type we actually need and the type the manager said he wanted !

Might as well stick with the two we have instead of wasting another wage there's enough potential acts of generosity around.

 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Just now, tomphil said:

So we'd have 3 keepers of very similar stature and ability but one with more experience than others but who will be 2nd choice and not one big commanding keeper amongst them ?  You know the type we actually need and the type the manager said he wanted !

Might as well stick with the two we have instead of wasting another wage there's enough potential acts of generosity around.

 

Agreed.  If we bring in another keeper after the odd decision to keep Leutweiler, it has to be a Pantilimon size keeper.

[bluebruce]

41 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Agreed.  If we bring in another keeper after the odd decision to keep Leutweiler, it has to be a Pantilimon size keeper.

More likely to just be Pants, mon.

[Paul Mani]

5 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Agreed.  If we bring in another keeper after the odd decision to keep Leutweiler, it has to be a Pantilimon size keeper.

Leutwiler is obv now lined up as 3rd choice keeper should / when we sign our keeper target. If he’s happy with that and we are then great. If he wants to move on and play 1st team football then we might pick up a small fee for him. 

[Paul Mani]

6 hours ago, tomphil said:

So we'd have 3 keepers of very similar stature and ability but one with more experience than others but who will be 2nd choice and not one big commanding keeper amongst them ?  You know the type we actually need and the type the manager said he wanted !

Might as well stick with the two we have instead of wasting another wage there's enough potential acts of generosity around.

 

We don’t know who we’re signing though...

[Paul Mani]

Rotherham don’t want Smallwood. Vaulks is a potential but more likely to go to Sheff Wed who are more keen.

@Sparks Rover how’s the Whitman thing going?

[Stuart]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Rotherham don’t want Smallwood. Vaulks is a potential but more likely to go to Sheff Wed who are more keen.

Source?

[Mattyblue]

A 'football man', ain't he!