blueboy3333 Posted December 25, 2018 Posted December 25, 2018 https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17319258.rovers-boss-mowbray-wants-continual-improvement-in-january/ Not sure there will be much happening in the Jan transfer market but at least Mogga is acknowledging the need for a bit more 'experience and guile'. Quote
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47er Posted December 25, 2018 Posted December 25, 2018 Too loyal to those players who took us up = too cautious for me. Has to be braver, its not as if the cautious approach is working anymore. We are losing points from winning positions. Above all we need width. Quote
Butty Posted December 26, 2018 Author Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, 47er said: Too loyal to those players who took us up = too cautious for me. Has to be braver, its not as if the cautious approach is working anymore. We are losing points from winning positions. Above all we need width. I don’t mind being too loyal to the lads who took us up, but once we stay up this season I would expect a lot of improvements to the squad in the summer if we really are serious about kicking on, and I’d certainly be disappointed if the likes of Bell and Smallwood are still starting games next season.. Quote
Sparks Rover Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, Butty said: I’d certainly be disappointed if the likes of Bell are still starting games next season.. I like bell, he had his best game for a while v top of league. Theres potential there IMV 4 Quote
tomphil Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 It all comes back to the fact we just don't defend well enough, sure we need more contributing goals and we need to integrate the attacking flair we have into the team but I think we'd still ship goals if we played two banks of 5 every week. The defence of Nyambe, xyz, Mulgrew, Williams and two defensive mids struggled in this league last time and we went down. Similar to now we could score then when we put our minds to it but we couldn't turn draws into wins and losing into draws never mind wins. We don't seem to have moved on on the pitch much at all so far although good work has been done off it. Quote
rigger Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Sparks Rover said: I like bell, he had his best game for a while v top of league. Theres potential there IMV He had his best game but still gave the ball away for their goal Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) On 24/12/2018 at 22:39, blueboy3333 said: It is. It's also the job of a well paid manager to not need hindsight. Ain't scouting great. If only it was that simple and straightforward. I don't think anyone outside maybe Norwich predicted Pukki would have the impact he did. We did well with Dack though, correct? Edited December 26, 2018 by Bigdoggsteel 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) On 24/12/2018 at 23:16, 47er said: You'll be saying that when Brereton's playing non-league! Hindsight has already arrived if you care to look. Don't get you.Do you know what hindsight means? Edited December 26, 2018 by Bigdoggsteel 1 Quote
47er Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Don't get you.Do you know what hindsight means? Work it out. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, 47er said: Work it out. I can't. Myself and another poster were discussing Pukki for Norwich, then you came in with something about Brereton playing non league and hindsight being here. It didn't make any sense in the context of what was being discussed Edited December 26, 2018 by Bigdoggsteel 1 Quote
Stuart Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 At the moment, Mobray’s sides rely on the fitness of the old guard. Mulgrew, Graham, Bennett and even Conway all playing well and it can be the difference. In some ways I think Dack needs this too. We keep replacing the team with youngsters but we need balance. Maybe after getting his fingers burned with Whittingham he’s reluctant to pay the wages for that experience, Rodwell is the nearest to that since - and he’s only 27. We also have a very young keeper in relative terms. Given that Mowbray appears to have already given up on the play-offs I don’t expect him to change much in January but we’ll see. Quote
blueboy3333 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't think anyone outside maybe Norwich predicted Pukki would have the impact he did. Their manager did, and that's what we were discussing. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, blueboy3333 said: Their manager did, and that's what we were discussing. Almost half way through the season you are saying we should have spent the brereton money on the second top scorer in the league. Thanks for the incisive insight captain obvious Quote
blueboy3333 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 24/12/2018 at 20:15, Bigdoggsteel said: It wasn't possible to sign someone to replace Graham for that kind of money. He's top class On 24/12/2018 at 21:58, blueboy3333 said: Pukki would have cost a lot less than BB. On 24/12/2018 at 22:32, Bigdoggsteel said: Ain't hindsight great On 24/12/2018 at 22:39, blueboy3333 said: It is. It's also the job of a well paid manager to not need hindsight. Ain't scouting great. 5 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: If only it was that simple and straightforward. I don't think anyone outside maybe Norwich predicted Pukki would have the impact he did. 3 hours ago, blueboy3333 said: Their manager did, and that's what we were discussing. 22 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Almost half way through the season you are saying we should have spent the brereton money on the second top scorer in the league. Thanks for the incisive insight captain obvious Above is a refresher of the conversation you've been having. Hope this helps Captain Confused. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said: Above is a refresher of the conversation you've been having. Hope this helps Captain Confused. Yes, as I said ain't hindsight great. Pukki was a free that has worked out incredibly well. Name me someone now we could replace Graham with for what we, apparently, paid for Brereton. Quote
Ewood Ace Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) Time to get rid, this has gone on for long enough and he has shown no sign of having any idea what to do to stop it. Just think where we would be now if we had a manger who knew how to see a game out. Edited December 26, 2018 by Ewood Ace 2 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 1 win in 8 and cannot sort our defensive frailties whatever he tries. Not saying pull the trigger yet but that contract extension is looking farcical. Edited December 26, 2018 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! Quote
Backroom DE. Posted December 26, 2018 Backroom Posted December 26, 2018 I genuinely think we might be in big trouble. Performances and results are poor, but the manner of these defeats and draws - throwing points away every week in the final few minutes - is exactly what you see from teams plummeting downwards. The manager's recent comments - 'this is just where we are' - suggests an unacceptable level of complacency which gives me no confidence he can take this club forward. Very concerned. 4 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 If only we had spent £7 Million or even £3-4 Million on a couple defenders rather than a dud who can't even make the squad he is so bad. 1 Quote
Stuart Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 We aren’t getting the necessary results but we don’t seem to be performing either. An OG today, a penalty, a free kick then some rank bad defending. Not sure where we go from here. Based on his record in the market and recent form/selections, I just don’t see Venkys giving him cash to spend in January. 2 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted December 26, 2018 Backroom Posted December 26, 2018 Frankly I don't think it would change much. In terms of quality our defence was near the top of League 1 standards, yet we were leaking goals regularly in that wasteland of a division. It's more of a Mowbray/coaching problem than a player problem imo. 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 Thing is - he’ll come out and bemoan ‘bad luck’ tonight. We need someone to give TM a ruddy good grilling but he’ll get Sharpe accepting us as being the unluckiest club in English football tonight. It’s gone on for far too long this weak back bone. Inexcusable. 1 Quote
Husky Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 I don't think I can stand much more of this unstable stability. 1 Quote
alcd Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 Mowbray doesn't even look bothered - witness his smiley chat with Bielsa at the end - and that attitude is reflected in so many of the spineless players - Bell, Williams, Evans and Smallwood to name just 4. Going nowhere except down with Mowbray. Time to pay up the contract and move on. 1 Quote
blueboy3333 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Name me someone now we could replace Graham with for what we, apparently, paid for Brereton. We were on about last summer when we spent £7m on BB. Keep up. Quote
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