Mowbray’s Future

[Old Codger]

People's memory of what he did whilst at Rovers is remarkably shallow. The number of games he made completely inept non-decisions, deployed players in unnatural positions, sat taciturn on the sidelines whilst things fell apart on the pitch in front of him, his insistence at staying on way beyond his sell-by at the club (to feather his nest) and much of his passive-aggressive drivel towards the fan-base all contributed to my personal disdain for the bloke. Granted he has had a health scare since leaving us, but to be fair, he is amongst a small minority in this country who can afford to get the best treatment and care for that.

The gurning chump label is something I stuck on him towards the end of his tenure, when that was literally his modus operandi - standing on the touchline pulling faces and doing nothing of any value, whilst the team floundered rudderless in front of him. It was and continues to be a personal view and it is one I have shared with other 'well thought of' managers face to face (Mick McCarthy being perhaps the most well known). 

I don't wish him ill. I don't hate him, but for me, Tony Mowbray will always be another of a long line of yes-men ineffective coaches / managers inflicted upon our once great club, by a vindictive and pernicious ownership hell bent on doing anything except actually keeping their word - remember, "We will absolutely respect the legacy of Jack Walker..." bollocks!

VENKYS OUT!! AND TAKE YOUR TRASH WITH YOU, PUNE GOONS.

[Mattyblue]

Poor post that, ‘yeah he was ill, but he can pay’.

How mean spirited.

[K-Hod]

7 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

People's memory of what he did whilst at Rovers is remarkably shallow. The number of games he made completely inept non-decisions, deployed players in unnatural positions, sat taciturn on the sidelines whilst things fell apart on the pitch in front of him, his insistence at staying on way beyond his sell-by at the club (to feather his nest) and much of his passive-aggressive drivel towards the fan-base all contributed to my personal disdain for the bloke. Granted he has had a health scare since leaving us, but to be fair, he is amongst a small minority in this country who can afford to get the best treatment and care for that.

The gurning chump label is something I stuck on him towards the end of his tenure, when that was literally his modus operandi - standing on the touchline pulling faces and doing nothing of any value, whilst the team floundered rudderless in front of him. It was and continues to be a personal view and it is one I have shared with other 'well thought of' managers face to face (Mick McCarthy being perhaps the most well known). 

I don't wish him ill. I don't hate him, but for me, Tony Mowbray will always be another of a long line of yes-men ineffective coaches / managers inflicted upon our once great club, by a vindictive and pernicious ownership hell bent on doing anything except actually keeping their word - remember, "We will absolutely respect the legacy of Jack Walker..." bollocks!

VENKYS OUT!! AND TAKE YOUR TRASH WITH YOU, PUNE GOONS.

'Hey Alexa, play Elton John- Sorry seems to be the hardest word'.

[Mercer]

Surely time for Mowbray to retire, spend quality time with his family and enjoy both his seemingly successful recovery from a major illness and the wealth he has accumulated.

Personally, I never took to the guy.  IMO, should have kept us up the season we were relegated where too many winning positions ended as draws and too many matches where we were all square ended in defeat - think his game management was poor.  Think he held us back with 'a happy to to be a Championship side stance', coasting along - no real drive and ambition.  I think a 'safe pair of hands' at Championship level was/is the limit of his managerial/coaching abilities.

I didn't trust the guy and behind that 'nice, humble guy' image he liked to portray, lurked, IMO, a more cynical, unpleasant and maybe even nasty person who 'threw his toys out of the pram' / 'took his bat home' too many times during the course of games and hung a number of players out to dry during his time here.

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Mercer

[roverandout]

Nothing against Mowbray as a human being as I have nothing against Steve kean as a human being 

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, Old Codger said:

People's memory of what he did whilst at Rovers is remarkably shallow. The number of games he made completely inept non-decisions, deployed players in unnatural positions, sat taciturn on the sidelines whilst things fell apart on the pitch in front of him, his insistence at staying on way beyond his sell-by at the club (to feather his nest) and much of his passive-aggressive drivel towards the fan-base all contributed to my personal disdain for the bloke. Granted he has had a health scare since leaving us, but to be fair, he is amongst a small minority in this country who can afford to get the best treatment and care for that.

The gurning chump label is something I stuck on him towards the end of his tenure, when that was literally his modus operandi - standing on the touchline pulling faces and doing nothing of any value, whilst the team floundered rudderless in front of him. It was and continues to be a personal view and it is one I have shared with other 'well thought of' managers face to face (Mick McCarthy being perhaps the most well known). 

I don't wish him ill. I don't hate him, but for me, Tony Mowbray will always be another of a long line of yes-men ineffective coaches / managers inflicted upon our once great club, by a vindictive and pernicious ownership hell bent on doing anything except actually keeping their word - remember, "We will absolutely respect the legacy of Jack Walker..." bollocks!

VENKYS OUT!! AND TAKE YOUR TRASH WITH YOU, PUNE GOONS.

Great post. Hits the nail on the head.

As was revealed recently in a podcast by one of our ex players, Mowbray was absolutely 1000% a venky yes man that would play whatever players he was told to.

He did more damage than good here and his disrespect towards us, the fans was completely unacceptable.

Just another shit manager that wouldn't have got anywhere near this club were ot not for the venky virus.

 

[roversfan99]

Which podcast showed that he played whatever players he was told to?

[Mattyblue]

24 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Nothing against Mowbray as a human being as I have nothing against Steve kean as a human being 

I do, the guy wilfully helped destroy this football club, and the two aren’t remotely comparable.

[lraC]

It was the Elliott Bennet podcast and has been a feature of things at Ewood for quite some time. In fact around 15 years, there or there abouts.

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, lraC said:

It was the Elliott Bennet podcast and has been a feature of things at Ewood for quite some time. In fact around 15 years, there or there abouts.

Yep that's it. Not the first time and certainly won't be the last.

I see I got some thumbs down from parsons and mashed brains so I have obviously hit the nail on the head.

[chaddyrovers]

Mowbray was very likeable person and nothing like that someone else mentioned. Very disrespectful and Mowbray did good steady job here. The league 1 campaign was enjoyable and winning promotion at the first time. 

Don't get the hatred towards him tbh from some on here

 

[Old Codger]

1 minute ago, Upside Down said:

Yep that's it. Not the first time and certainly won't be the last.

I see I got some thumbs down from parsons and mashed brains so I have obviously hit the nail on the head.

Some folk are just easily offended - usually those folk who believe they have the right to be not offended... (they don't) or who are so lacking in awareness that they just think the person in charge is right all the time (they aren't).

At least you (and me) are getting a reaction - unlike the last 'protest' (a wet Saturday morning prior to Birmingham City at Ewood) when only me and a Birmingham fan turned up to protest!

For the record, I believed then that what has been done to our club is not right, and I believe that is still the case today, with what is BEING DONE to our club.

VENKYS OUT! TAKE YOUR TRASH WITH YOU..

[Old Codger]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray was very likeable person and nothing like that someone else mentioned. Very disrespectful and Mowbray did good steady job here. The league 1 campaign was enjoyable and winning promotion at the first time. 

Don't get the hatred towards him tbh from some on here

 

You seem to have conflated hatred with distrust and dislike. Not like you to lack discrimination, Chris!

[Tugayisgod]

Best thing Mowbray ever did was not signing this excuse of a human being ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-66443355&ved=2ahUKEwjVl774rOuMAxVHQUEAHXOfBWUQFnoECFwQAQ&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw1J9yswp6vn4V5Zw0Q2hvs0

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

He lost me in the season after promotion. No ambition at all, just happy to be in a job. 

[RevidgeBlue]

I detest Mowbray.  For me he's a major reason why we're in as much of a mess as we are today. When the owners did still retain a modicum of interest following promotion from Div 1 and were prepared to put some money in he had no interest at all in pushing the Club forward and even publicly admitted he tried to dampen their expectations! Just think what we might have achieved had we had a JDT or a Eustace in charge at that time.

Following that there was an interview during Covid which a lot of people thought portrayed him as "good old Uncle Tone" but it gave his game away completely. Only interested in prolonging the gig for himself as long as possible until he'd met his financial objectives, only really interested in looking after his existing group of players as opposed to doing what was necessary to succeed and replacing where necessary, yet conversely seemingly not bothered about pressurising the owners to tie down the Club's more valuable assets on new deals. "We don't want to upset the others" etc.

Not surprised at all he's tanked at West Brom. Under their new owner they seem to be a proper Club with genuine direction so extinguishing any hope excitement and expectation in favour of going on another four or five year "journey" to nowhere was never going to fly there - they've sussed him out fairly quickly.

[RevidgeBlue]

17 hours ago, K-Hod said:

We get it, you don’t like him. Was there really any need to post this across three different threads, though?

Yes.

[roversfan99]

Detest. Incredible that after all of these years and especially after what has happened to him personally, youd think that hate would have subsided and would have been replaced with apathy.

He did a good job, and he grew publically frustrated with their lack of investment/contract issues (common themes) towards the end. He was here too long, but he then went to Sunderland and did really well. Not worked at West Brom, always seemed strange to see him rush back so soon after recovering from serious illness.

If you start implying that Mowbray was the limiting factor (or any one individual) RATHER than Venkys, then you have a warped take on things. 

They did put some money in, he did standard managerial spiel of lowering expectations, all managers do it, Ranieri was going on about survival three quarters in their title winning season at Leicester. Its been twisted as if they were willing to spend millions and millions extra and Mowbray wouldnt allow it. And it isnt a reason for the current day mess as even if we had, those players would no longer be here either on frees or for sales than would never be reinvested.

[RevidgeBlue]

18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Detest. Incredible that after all of these years and especially after what has happened to him personally, youd think that hate would have subsided and would have been replaced with apathy.

He did a good job, and he grew publically frustrated with their lack of investment/contract issues (common themes) towards the end. He was here too long, but he then went to Sunderland and did really well. Not worked at West Brom, always seemed strange to see him rush back so soon after recovering from serious illness.

If you start implying that Mowbray was the limiting factor (or any one individual) RATHER than Venkys, then you have a warped take on things. 

They did put some money in, he did standard managerial spiel of lowering expectations, all managers do it, Ranieri was going on about survival three quarters in their title winning season at Leicester. Its been twisted as if they were willing to spend millions and millions extra and Mowbray wouldnt allow it. And it isnt a reason for the current day mess as even if we had, those players would no longer be here either on frees or for sales than would never be reinvested.

He didn't do a good job overall.

He did a very good job until the end of the League one promotion campaign.

With the benefit of hindsight that would have been the best time to shake hands and part Company.

His Championship tenure was imo pretty disastrous culminating in the fairly desperate long term situation we find ourselves in now.

There has understandably been a recent groundswell of sympathy for him due to his recent health issues which were unfortunate but that doesn't mean people should rewrite history and make out he did a better job here or anywhere else he tanked than he actually did.

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He didn't do a good job overall.

He did a very good job until the end of the League one promotion campaign.

With the benefit of hindsight that would have been the best time to shake hands and part Company.

His Championship tenure was imo pretty disastrous culminating in the fairly desperate long term situation we find ourselves in now.

There has understandably been a recent groundswell of sympathy for him due to his recent health issues which were unfortunate but that doesn't mean people should rewrite history and make out he did a better job here or anywhere else he tanked than he actually did.

Before breaking down this, I still again cant get my head around why anyone would detest him 3 seasons after his departure, and would still take such great pleasure in him losing his job even now at West Brom. Its one thing thinking he did a bad job but "detest?"

We finished 15th, 11th, 15th and 8th in his 4 seasons after promotion. Is that "disastrous?"

I dont understand how he has in any way caused the mess we are in now. Are you blaming him for the owners having shown no interest year in year out? Are you blaming him for us still being unable to get key players to sign new deals, mainly players that have come in since he left? Is the court case down to him? 

[chaddyrovers]

The same poster doesnt rate Tronstad 🙄🤔. I wouldnt worry it.

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The same poster doesnt rate Tronstad 🙄🤔. I wouldnt worry it.

The irony......

Have always stood up for you in the past as well. 

[K-Hod]

With all the detestable figures in our recent history, Tony Mowbray wouldn't be in my crosshairs, I'll be honest. 

[Gav]

How anyone can detest a manger, Coyle and Kean aside, knowing what these abysmal owners have done to the club is beyond me. Calling his time here disasterous after league 1? Really??

The owners have been meddling in 1st team affairs since day 1 and continue to do so today with the criminal acts of letting our better players out of the club.

Mowbray may have spent a few quid, but that doesn't stop the meddling that hampered him and the clubs progress during his time here.

Tony Mowbray is decent bloke and a decent manager who did ok here in appalling circumstances.

Edited 8 hours ago by Gav

[Tricky]

2 minutes ago, Gav said:

Tony Mowbray is decent bloke and a decent manager who did ok here in appalling circumstances.

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