onlyonejackwalker Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Glad Coyle has gone. Relegation must be avoided. Can Mowbray keep us up? Thats all the matters for the next three months. 1 Quote
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Roverthechimp Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dunnfc said: Going to leave this just here for Mike Cheston/Venkys and give BRFC and the board a wide berth for a bit. All the best lads. There is a glaring problem here. We all pretty much know that Cheston did not appoint/choose Coyle. The real question is who did and why do they still have influence?? Edit: forgot to add "and how do we get rid of them!" Edited February 22, 2017 by klc_2012 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, RoyRover said: I thought the owners were scraping the barrel when Owen Coyle was appointed. This is a whole different barrel. Did some Blackburn fan run over Mrs Venkys cat eight years ago and her revenge was to buy the club and run it into the ground? Someone has done something to them to peeve them off this badly that they seem intent on destroying the club as punishment. I am convinced they intend to destroy us. Paul Senior of the plastic smile and year round tan is their latest TOOL. Quote
JBiz Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, Dunnfc said: Manger well head coach... with a Senior in charge pretending to play director of football. You seriously have to wonder who the hell walks out on SISU and joins Venkys months later, it's hardly someone with a high level of self respect is it and it's borderline hypocritical. He can do whatever. I genuinely don't care anymore, good luck to him. Support from day one? We've done that for each of the Venky 7 appointments with each one progressively more underwhelming than any predecessor bar Lambert. Did we really have Lambert to Coyle to Mowbray in 12 months or am I in a bad dream. It's come to the point where I think support needs to earned over a period of time and not just give on day one because we've got our latest washed up has been with the Venky/SEM PR machine in the background lapping up the "support". It's not the scenario that we would all want is it? The point I am making is that any new player or member of staff deserves a chance. Do I rate Senior? Do I rate Cheston? Etc? Regardless of those answers, I don't have much of say but my opinion should be developed with experience, not just a gut "he's obviously a pawn".. Senior needed to get rid of Coyle and he has done, whilst it probably should've been earlier - I appreciate that influence. I didn't appreciate his lies about value, but I can understand why he said it. If Mowbray becomes a successful head coach by keeping us up and improving us next year, it will be a success. We are all annoyed about the previous 6 years, but that's not a reason (imo) to defecate on any changes, especially when this one has been swift and necessary! Could I have been less underwhelmed? Yes, but I could've also been a lot angrier if this had gone on for weeks to be another "give it to the reserves" manager decision. The scenario is perilous. 4 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted February 22, 2017 Backroom Posted February 22, 2017 Swift is debatable. Apparently the players were told last week that Coyle wouldn't be taking training (probably around the time a certain agency started a media blitz targeting Venky's) yet he was still in charge for the United game and only sacked yesterday. Meanwhile Senior has basically wanted Coyle to be removed since he was hired at the beginning of January. It was the same with Bowyer. Apparently he knew well in advance that he was going to be replaced, possibly before the season had even started. Venky's don't do swift. Quote
Brian-Potter Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Baffling appointment, I have a bad feeling about this one although I really hope he proves me wrong. Underwhelming to say the least, for me we may as well have stuck with Coyle as this offers no improvement over what we had, take into account he has brought no backroom staff and I think we are actually worse off. Also, anyone else find the "Head Coach" title slightly bizarre?? Quote
Athlete Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Jbizzle said: It's not the scenario that we would all want is it? The point I am making is that any new player or member of staff deserves a chance. Do I rate Senior? Do I rate Cheston? Etc? Regardless of those answers, I don't have much of say but my opinion should be developed with experience, not just a gut "he's obviously a pawn".. Senior needed to get rid of Coyle and he has done, whilst it probably should've been earlier - I appreciate that influence. I didn't appreciate his lies about value, but I can understand why he said it. If Mowbray becomes a successful head coach by keeping us up and improving us next year, it will be a success. We are all annoyed about the previous 6 years, but that's not a reason (imo) to defecate on any changes, especially when this one has been swift and necessary! Could I have been less underwhelmed? Yes, but I could've also been a lot angrier if this had gone on for weeks to be another "give it to the reserves" manager decision. The scenario is perilous. I agree with some of that but senior is now part of the venkys disease.. He already said he's looking forward to an exciting summer so regardless if Mowbray keeps us up he'll have no say in transfers.. So we go again.. The fact is no Matter who is in the dug out venkys cheston senior coar and whoever else all need to depart Quote
bristolrover Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Not another one of Jerome's clients is he? I saw Tim Sherwood linked with the job earlier today. Doesn't set the pulses racing does it? Quote
1arC Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Brian-Potter said: Baffling appointment, I have a bad feeling about this one although I really hope he proves me wrong. Underwhelming to say the least, for me we may as well have stuck with Coyle as this offers no improvement over what we had, take into account he has brought no backroom staff and I think we are actually worse off. Also, anyone else find the "Head Coach" title slightly bizarre?? I am quite sure the head coach title was only because Senior wants it that way. I would have thought that the statement Senior made about have a list A and a list B more or less tells us that it will be him, not the manager, who will be responsible for the new signings. In terms of Mowbray, I understand why some people are disappointed, but we have to give him a chance. He will be a change from the waffle we were fed from Coyle and the Cream cakes and Table Tournaments are behind us. From the little I have read, Mowbray wont take any nonsense. If he gets the players fitter and more organised, who knows. He has nothing to lose in my views, as most fans think we will be relegated and if he saves us, will be quite rightly hailed for doing so. The next 3 games are crucial and if we can get two wins from them, we have a chance, so a roll of the dice is fair. 2 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 If he keeps us up will people give him a chance? I honestly don't think I can handle another summer of negativity. Quote
chor808 Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/opinion-blackburn-boss-tony-mowbray-12641343 Quote
knobblybottom Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Oh well, if we're going to drag someone off the Ron Manager merry-go-round then Tony Mowbray is as good a choice as any I reckon. Slightly disappointed we didn't tempt Pep away from Man City though. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: How many managers have we said that about in the last six years or so ? Enough times and some people never learn Quote
roverandout Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 If mowray tells it like it is and doesnt bullsheet anout like coyle then its a step up but i still think rovers will go down Quote
Gav Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: Glad Coyle has gone. Relegation must be avoided. Can Mowbray keep us up? Thats all the matters for the next three months. All that matters is getting rid of Venkys. If we survive this time around we'all go down next season. Dont fall for the managerial change, its not some sort of magic bullet, its just a stop gap trying to head off the inevitable Edited February 22, 2017 by Gav 1 Quote
PAFELL Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, chor808 said: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/opinion-blackburn-boss-tony-mowbray-12641343 There are more fans at his other clubs having positive things to say about Tony Mowbray - than negative. I think he will do ok for Rovers and keep us up. I reckon Mowbray thinks the same. I think this was planned awhile ago. Maybe the club had to wait for the extra income from the Man U match, before implementing the removal of coyle. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, Butty said: What will change if we stay up Chaddy? The clubs got no hope whether we stay up or go down how can you not see that? Of course I want us too stay up but either way, we're up s**t creek. And Senior has got the only paddle!!!! Doomed I tell you Doomed Quote
bluefred Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 So Tony ,15 games that's 45pts to play for ,can you do it ? Quote
Exiled in Toronto Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 The more I read about Mowbray the better I feel. The man seems a million miles away from the likes of Kean and Coyle in character, his overall management record is better than many who give it a go, and it's not often fans of past clubs are so positive. Yes he's been fired a few times but then so had Souness, whose appointment was greeted on here with much negativity. Obviously he's got question marks but that's where we are today. Are we also now without a goalkeeping coach? Good! Jobs for the boys post apart from those used by elite keepers. Steele doesn't need a coach, he needs a career counsellor. 3 Quote
Athlete Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, 1arC said: I am quite sure the head coach title was only because Senior wants it that way. I would have thought that the statement Senior made about have a list A and a list B more or less tells us that it will be him, not the manager, who will be responsible for the new signings. The above is why Senior should be nowhere near Ewood....... On Mowbray he probably has took a look at it and thought its a route back into football if I can keep these lot up I'll move on cos we all know that more cost cutting is coming in the summer.. Two huge games will have a big bearing wether or not we stay up the Bristol game tonight followed by our game at Burton Friday , A Bristol win tonite and a defeat for us maybe too big a mountain to climb as another poster said if you look at what kept Coventry up in league one with 14 games to go if that's repeated it gives us a chance but no guarantee...... Quote
Backroom DE. Posted February 22, 2017 Backroom Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Exiled in Toronto said: The more I read about Mowbray the better I feel. The man seems a million miles away from the likes of Kean and Coyle in character, his overall management record is better than many who give it a go, and it's not often fans of past clubs are so positive. Yes he's been fired a few times but then so had Souness, whose appointment was greeted on here with much negativity. Obviously he's got question marks but that's where we are today. Are we also now without a goalkeeping coach? Good! Jobs for the boys post apart from those used by elite keepers. Steele doesn't need a coach, he needs a career counsellor. As an aside, it was Mowbray who brought Steele through at Boro. Quote
Backroom Tom Posted February 22, 2017 Backroom Posted February 22, 2017 Feeling a bit more positive about this, he's one of those that you assume is a failure due to his demeanour but his record isn't that bad and seems honest at least. Good luck to him Quote
West Yorks Rover Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Just now, DE. said: As an aside, it was Mowbray who brought Steele through at Boro. And had Emnes playing very well too apparently, maybe he'll get to start regularly now. Edited February 22, 2017 by West Yorks Rover Quote
Rover down South Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 Starting away to Burton this week then have three home games versus Derby, Wigan & Cardiff which if being optimistic are all winnable. We then face Norwich (A), Fulham (A), Preston (H), Brighton (A), Reading (A) & Barnsley (H) which are all tough games. Final five games are crucial after that run with Forest (A), Bristol City (H), Wolves (A), Villa (H) & Brentford (A). Mowbray must of looked at the fixtures, looked at the squad and thought it was possible or why take the job and have a relegation oh his CV. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted February 22, 2017 Backroom Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Tom said: Feeling a bit more positive about this, he's one of those that you assume is a failure due to his demeanour but his record isn't that bad and seems honest at least. Good luck to him The simple truth is that your last two jobs aren't SISU owned Coventry and Venky's owned Rovers unless you're kind of desperate. Nonetheless, it just clicks for some managers at certain teams. Look at Coyle and Burnley. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll click with us and Mowbray. Sad fact is even if he does succeed and keep us up, another round of cost cutting in the summer will put paid to any chance of competing at this level and leave us at a point where even the elite managers couldn't stop the inevitable. Quote
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