savage90 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: He has no authority to do anything. This decision on Mowbray's future will be decide by 2 people in India. Are they interested??? Quote
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Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted July 15, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mercer said: Suhail is their eyes and ears. He can't fail to have seen how poorly we are performing in the main and how we are as far away from the PL as ever. I feel sure he will also have picked up the growing discontent about Mowbray. IMO, he will make the bullets for the Raos to fire. As much as I’d like that to be true, I don’t honestly think they care that much. Quote
Mercer Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: He probably not even in the country with this Covid 19 crisis. What discontent Mercer? no one is in the stadium. They has never been any discontent in the stadium. Barnsley at home was close. We dont know what the owners thinking or feelings are. Predicting them is pointless as you have shown with your comments never been right in 7 years Well it's over four months since we had fans in the stadium! Do you not think this MB gives you a taster and is it not representative of the wider Rovers' fan base? In my circle of Rovers' contacts (friends, colleagues, clients etc), I'd say 80+% would be glad to see the back of Mowbray which is not dissimilar to where the poll on this MB stands. Quote
Parsonblue Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mercer said: Suhail is their eyes and ears. He can't fail to have seen how poorly we are performing in the main and how we are as far away from the PL as ever. I feel sure he will also have picked up the growing discontent about Mowbray. IMO, he will make the bullets for the Raos to fire. Hasn't he been back in India for the past four months - he left before lockdown - and last I heard I think he's still there. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mercer said: Well it's over four months since we had fans in the stadium! Do you not think this MB gives you a taster and is it not representative of the wider Rovers' fan base? In my circle of Rovers' contacts (friends, colleagues, clients etc), I'd say 80+% would be glad to see the back of Mowbray which is not dissimilar to where the poll on this MB stands. Unless you asked every single fan you wont know. Do you have all their phone numbers? We have this last season when a poll was done on here that a majority wanted him gone. Whereas on a Rovers fan twitter account did a poll which show a vast majority wanted him to stay if my memory serves me right. The majority of my family and friends want him to stay as manager. Different fans have different views. 1 minute ago, Scotland1 said: By how exactly? your moronic if you don’t think they’re on the blower to suhail for his running of the club. He will recommend firing like bowyer if asked his opinion etc Is he in the country currently? Quote
Ewood Ace Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Unless you asked every single fan you wont know. Do you have all their phone numbers? Yet yesterday you were claiming to speak for Norwich fans, although you never did tell us where you found out their opinions from. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 He also refuses to give constructive points as to why he believes that Mowbray will stay. Mainly choosing to cryptically reference and refuse to reiterate posts he supposedly made weeks ago which are both out of date and would be impossible to find. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Yet yesterday you were claiming to speak for Norwich fans, although you never did tell us where you found out their opinions from. One of my best friend is Norwich fan. Just now, roversfan99 said: He also refuses to give constructive points as to why he believes that Mowbray will stay. Mainly choosing to cryptically reference and refuse to reiterate posts he supposedly made weeks ago which are both out of date and would be impossible to find. Wrong again. I posted to Mercer why Mowbray should stay 2 weeks ago. Why keep asking the same questions day after day when they were answered hoping for different answer and just accept why I don't want him sack Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: One of my best friend is Norwich fan. Wrong again. I posted to Mercer why Mowbray should stay 2 weeks ago. Why keep asking the same questions day after day when they were answered hoping for different answer and just accept why I don't want him sack But no one knows these reasons chaddy. And those reasons were before 4 or 5 further games. Quote
Ewood Ace Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: One of my best friend is Norwich fan. So you have one friend that is a Norwich fan and claim to talk about what Norwich fans think. But when @Mercer talks about his Rovers supporting friends that that want Mowbray gone you dismiss it. Quote
Mercer Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Unless you asked every single fan you wont know. Do you have all their phone numbers? We have this last season when a poll was done on here that a majority wanted him gone. Whereas on a Rovers fan twitter account did a poll which show a vast majority wanted him to stay if my memory serves me right. The majority of my family and friends want him to stay as manager. Different fans have different views. That's nonsense!!! Professor John Curtice's exit poll at 2019 GE - based on 160,000 (0.5%) out of 32,000,000 was uncannily accurate. The poll on this MB of some 200 is about 1.6% of Rovers' average gate and, within the usual margins of error, is likely to be very representative (and the sample size is 3 times bigger <1.6% v 0.5%> than the GE poll) of the Rovers' fan base. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, roversfan99 said: But no one knows these reasons chaddy. And those reasons were before 4 or 5 further games. Yet again if you actually read my reply to Mercer 2 weeks ago. I will have find it for you since you wont look yourself I already said today my opinion hasnt change from then to now. Did you miss that bit? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, Mercer said: That's nonsense!!! So you dont have all these Rovers fans phone number then? Mercer I ain't interested. I've told you my reasons why Mowbray should stay. So you can either accept it or move on. I've told of different fans polls that show different results Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted July 15, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted July 15, 2020 You see, I don’t think this forum is representative as the fans as a whole. You only need to look at the Facebook groups, the official pages on social media and the LT comments section to see that. Many won’t accept any criticism of Mowbray, which is frustrating. Many are over critical and many under critical. Controversial, but I think that league one season did Mowbray the word of good and some dismiss any criticism of Mowbray as over the top and ‘it’s all Mowbray’s fault’. No room for discussion, people are that entrenched in their views. For balance, that cuts the same, the other way. Maybe it’s just representative of modern society.... Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, K-Hod said: You see, I don’t think this forum is representative as the fans as a whole. You only need to look at the Facebook groups, the official pages on social media and the LT comments section to see that. Many won’t accept any criticism of Mowbray, which is frustrating. Many are over critical and many under critical. Controversial, but I think that league one season did Mowbray the word of good and some dismiss any criticism of Mowbray as over the top and ‘it’s all Mowbray’s fault’. No room for discussion, people are that entrenched in their views. For balance, that cuts the same, the other way. Maybe it’s just representative of modern society.... I have seen plenty of people with credible reasons to remove the manager. Points tallies year on year, poor recruitment, tactical issues, players out of position etc. Those wanting the manager to stay seem desperate to avoid making constructive reasons as to why, preferring instead to maybe focus on the manner of some of those more critical or by creating hypothetical disastrous scenarios. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted July 15, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, roversfan99 said: I have seen plenty of people with credible reasons to remove the manager. Points tallies year on year, poor recruitment, tactical issues, players out of position etc. Those wanting the manager to stay seem desperate to avoid making constructive reasons as to why, preferring instead to maybe focus on the manner of some of those more critical or by creating hypothetical disastrous scenarios. Trust me, I’m more like one of those in bold, but I don’t think that’s as widely shared of a view by the fan base as a whole as it is on here.... 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Trust me, I’m more like one of those in bold, but I don’t think that’s as widely shared of a view by the fan base as a whole as it is on here.... Oh sorry I wasnt saying you was. I agreed with you! I went off on a tangent somewhat! Quote
Scotland1 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, K-Hod said: You see, I don’t think this forum is representative as the fans as a whole. You only need to look at the Facebook groups, the official pages on social media and the LT comments section to see that. Many won’t accept any criticism of Mowbray, which is frustrating. Many are over critical and many under critical. Controversial, but I think that league one season did Mowbray the word of good and some dismiss any criticism of Mowbray as over the top and ‘it’s all Mowbray’s fault’. No room for discussion, people are that entrenched in their views. For balance, that cuts the same, the other way. Maybe it’s just representative of modern society.... I’d have sacked him when he relegated us with less points and a game in hand than Nigel coughs burton achieved tbh 1 Quote
OldEwoodBlue Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, K-Hod said: You see, I don’t think this forum is representative as the fans as a whole. You only need to look at the Facebook groups, the official pages on social media and the LT comments section to see that. Many won’t accept any criticism of Mowbray, which is frustrating. Many are over critical and many under critical. Controversial, but I think that league one season did Mowbray the word of good and some dismiss any criticism of Mowbray as over the top and ‘it’s all Mowbray’s fault’. No room for discussion, people are that entrenched in their views. For balance, that cuts the same, the other way. Maybe it’s just representative of modern society.... When we talk about "the fans" we have to remember that every empty seat at Ewood represents a Rovers fan. With that fact in mind, the delusional fans you refer to are in fact (in the words of a snake) only 1%. The wider fanbase who mostly either don't use SM platforms or stopped being arsed enough to comment / argue, certainly think he should go. Being a gobby nobody on Facebook doesn't define a Rovers fan from a none Rovers fan. The stadium is 2/3 empty plus of the 8000 ST holders, a good few want him gone. So I would say 1% are happy with him and that means those 1% are actually part of the problem. Quote
OldEwoodBlue Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: Hasn't he been back in India for the past four months - he left before lockdown - and last I heard I think he's still there. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind Quote
philipl Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Wigan will finish ahead of us in the League before the 12 point deduction. Hard to see Hull and Charlton avoiding the drop now. Quote
Stuart Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, K-Hod said: You see, I don’t think this forum is representative as the fans as a whole. You only need to look at the Facebook groups, the official pages on social media and the LT comments section to see that. Many won’t accept any criticism of Mowbray, which is frustrating. Many are over critical and many under critical. Controversial, but I think that league one season did Mowbray the word of good and some dismiss any criticism of Mowbray as over the top and ‘it’s all Mowbray’s fault’. No room for discussion, people are that entrenched in their views. For balance, that cuts the same, the other way. Maybe it’s just representative of modern society.... The thing is, you ask those people to give a reason why Mowbray makes a good Championship manager and they’ve got nothing. I’d be happy to debate his positives for a club that needs promotion to survive long term. Anyone got any? Quote
JHRover Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Hull v Luton this week. Both sides need a win and if they fail then both will probably go down. Luton have ideal fixtures with us, Hull and QPR last 3. All 3 will be on the beach. Birmingham now safe with that late point. Probable relegation contenders next season unless they appoint a good manager. Quote
only2garners Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Mercer said: That's nonsense!!! Professor John Curtice's exit poll at 2019 GE - based on 160,000 (0.5%) out of 32,000,000 was uncannily accurate. The poll on this MB of some 200 is about 1.6% of Rovers' average gate and, within the usual margins of error, is likely to be very representative (and the sample size is 3 times bigger <1.6% v 0.5%> than the GE poll) of the Rovers' fan base. Without wishing to get into the Mowbray debate that’s rubbish Mercer. Curtis’ exit poll will be carefully balanced to be a reflection of the voting public as a whole. With the best will in the world any poll on here is a self selecting poll of those who are members and come on here regularly enough to see a poll. As others have said there are other Rovers groups who similarly self select and come up with a different answer, one that equally does not represent the views of all Rovers fans. 1 Quote
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