Tony Mowbray Discussion

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, PeteJD13 said:

Mowbrays comments might be laying the ground work for resigning before he's fired, I still think he went to Pune in October to get more time and take the heat off himself. He's talked us up this season so i'd expect he's done the same with the owners they might be putting the pressure on hence putting this out there then walking rather than being fired. He can then look for a mid table league two club and start his whole working class man mantra again

I agree Pete. The next 2 games will decide his future whether he walks away or not. If we performance badly in the next 2 games then I think he will walk away. 

 

2 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Gareth Ainsworth currently has Wycombe top of league 1. He would still leave that position to come here? With the basket case that is Rovers?

Yes He is a Blackburn lad and he is Blackburn Rovers fan. Plus look at the great facilities he would have to work with here including a good playing squad that just need am couple of signings

Just now, Dreams of 1995 said:

I don't particularly relish the thought of losing Mowbray but I think it would be best for all parties if he walked now. Clearly the link is broken with the fans and once that has gone managers don't usually stand a chance.

It felt very toxic on Saturday and almost ready for fans to turn on Mowbray which is a great shame. 

49 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

He's paid Millions to get results...I would give my left bollock to have a crack at that.

You fail? Your still laughing all the way to the Bank.The only profession I know of were this is possible.

Like I say NO Tears.

You really think Mowbray is paid millions of pounds a season?

[JHRover]

Just now, LDRover said:

Stuart made a  interesting point in the last 3 managers hired all had promotion on their CVs so one would expect that's part of the criteria going forward.

So, could be Warnock, Hughton or Pearson....but will probably be Malky Mackay, Nigel Adkins or Coyle again.

Yes. It is clear that since Bowyer went and Pasha started emerging from the shadows more that there has been a pattern in management appointments. They've all been promoted to the Premier League in the last decade. Not just Lambert, Coyle and Mowbray but also strong links to Warnock, Jokanovic, Adkins and Holloway too.

It isnt a bad policy to follow. Experience and past success are good things to seek particularly after Kean, Berg and Appleton, but it is quite naive to just assume appointing an ex promotion winner will see similar happen here.

So if we follow this policy who do we have available right now?

Holloway, Adkins, McDermott, Warnock, Mackay, Hughton, Karanka, Keane, Billy Davies, Di Matteo, McLeish, Pulis, Pearson, Redknapp. 

As far as I can think the rest of them are currently employed elsewhere.

Realistically out of those Hughton, Karanka and Di Matteo would probably be too expensive for these owners. Warnock and Redknapp likely retired. Pearson and Keane are nutters who wouldnt work for Venkys.

So I'd expect Mackay, Adkins, Holloway, McLeish. Billy Davies looks good in comparison, though not worked for 5 years so something not right there.

Not great really.

[Leonard Venkhater]

A very anxious time.....again!

Well, from his own comments, it certainly looks like TM is nearing the end.

Which of us has any confidence that the owners will recruit a proper manager to take the team forward?

Expecting the Cairney, Hanley, Duffy scenario soon. Maybe, TM is as well.

I am so sick of the way this club is being run.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, JHRover said:

Holloway, Adkins, McDermott, Warnock, Mackay, Hughton, Karanka, Keane, Billy Davies, Di Matteo, McLeish, Pulis, Pearson, Redknapp.

Nigel Warnock, Chris Hughton, Roy Keane, Billy Davies, Harry Redknapp, Tony Pulis aren't coming here. 

Massive No to Brian McDermott, Malky Mackay, Alex McLeish, Roberto Di Matteo

so that's leaves 

Nigel Adkins, Ian Holloway, Aitor Karanka and Nigel Pearson. Add names like Gareth Ainsworth, Damien Johnson, possibly add Uwe Rosler and Carlos Carvanhl to that that shortlist

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by chaddyrovers

[Norbert Rassragr]

No to Holloway. Had one good spell with Blackpool, but has been rubbish ever since. Entertaining interviews after the latest loss though.

[davulsukur]

If Mowbray is considering walking away chances are he won't last long. Might not even make it to Wednesday's game.

As soon as you get something like that into your head, most of the time your head is gone and you end up going.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

According to my paper West Ham are thinking about appointing Hughton. Watford won't be far off firing their manager either.

[Mattyblue]

I’ve been twitter grabbed for a second time.

Think our former member is confusing a fairly sustained negative view of Mowbray on brfcs with the wholly positive one he’s experienced at Ewood for nearly 3 years, despite a very poor 2019.

As I said, the tide would’ve turned much quicker at other clubs.

[JHRover]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Nigel Warnock, Chris Hughton, Roy Keane, Billy Davies, Harry Redknapp, Tony Pulis aren't coming here. 

Massive No to Brian McDermott, Malky Mackay, Alex McLeish, Roberto Di Matteo

so that's leaves 

Nigel Adkins, Ian Holloway, Aitor Karanka and Nigel Pearson. Add names like Gareth Ainsworth, Damien Johnson, possibly add Uwe Rosler and Carlos Carvanhl to that that shortlist

 

Davies' agent went public that he wanted the job before Coyle got it. So I'm not sure he'd be against the idea although not sure if he's bothered about management now or what his situation is. As I say strange that a manager with his record has been unemployed for 5 years.

Why would you be against Di Matteo? Ex promotion and Champions League/FA Cup winner.

Think Karanka is less likely than most. He fell out with people at Middlesbrough and has always spent heavily. 

Can't see us paying compo for anyone so forget luring Malmo's manager here.

[Amo]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Massive No to Brian McDermott, Malky Mackay, Alex McLeish, Roberto Di Matteo

 

lol why?

[Hasta]

Strange comments from Mowbray, who suffered a bit of Mowbray sort it out. The problem is he is believing that the anxiety and angst from the crowd is at the players. It's not. It's at the lineups and tactics which he keeps employing.

Is there anybody on here who wouldn't have reverted to starting Danny Graham by now? Is there anyone that would pick Armstrong as a lone striker? He is stubbornly trying to prove he is right with his team selections and favouritism at the cost of non-performances and points.  

Defenders should have been coming for 5 transfer windows but we have failed to adequately recruit in that area. He is continuing to make the same mistakes time and time again. 

To have a pop at the fans for daring to get anxious having been played off the pitch by Barnsley is only going to inflame the situation.

 

 

[JacknOry]

29 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Yes. It is clear that since Bowyer went and Pasha started emerging from the shadows more that there has been a pattern in management appointments. They've all been promoted to the Premier League in the last decade. Not just Lambert, Coyle and Mowbray but also strong links to Warnock, Jokanovic, Adkins and Holloway too.

It isnt a bad policy to follow. Experience and past success are good things to seek particularly after Kean, Berg and Appleton, but it is quite naive to just assume appointing an ex promotion winner will see similar happen here.

So if we follow this policy who do we have available right now?

Holloway, Adkins, McDermott, Warnock, Mackay, Hughton, Karanka, Keane, Billy Davies, Di Matteo, McLeish, Pulis, Pearson, Redknapp. 

As far as I can think the rest of them are currently employed elsewhere.

Realistically out of those Hughton, Karanka and Di Matteo would probably be too expensive for these owners. Warnock and Redknapp likely retired. Pearson and Keane are nutters who wouldnt work for Venkys.

So I'd expect Mackay, Adkins, Holloway, McLeish. Billy Davies looks good in comparison, though not worked for 5 years so something not right there.

Not great really.

What about that ex-Hudds manager, Jockanovic or something.

[JHRover]

Just now, Hasta said:

 

Is there anybody on here who wouldn't have reverted to starting Danny Graham by now? Is there anyone that would pick Armstrong as a lone striker? 

Is he allowed? Have to assume having shelled out £14 million Venkys will want to see Brereton, Gallagher and Armstrong at least maintaining some sort of value, whereas Graham at his age will have very little from a financial perspective.

[JHRover]

Just now, JacknOry said:

What about that ex-Hudds manager, Jockanovic or something.

Jokanovic doing nicely for himself in Qatar. Wagner is Schalke manager.

[Hasta]

Just now, JHRover said:

Is he allowed? Have to assume having shelled out £14 million Venkys will want to see Brereton, Gallagher and Armstrong at least maintaining some sort of value, whereas Graham at his age will have very little from a financial perspective.

Agree. 

Hence crowd anxiety at poor performances and team selections.

The reception Graham got when he got off the bench warming up told everyone what the majority of the crowds thoughts on this are.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Hasta

[arbitro]

The Blackburn End chanting 'Mowbray sort it out' made me chuckle. It's because he can't sort it out that we are in this position.

He seems to be a little sensitive over what really was a tame reaction when quite easily the heat could have been turned up. After forty years in the game he should know how fans react to a succession of poor performances and results.

 

 

 

[K-Hod]

I don’t think there has been anything personal, certainly not abuse, either. 
If he played players in the right position and stopped making silly decisions, then fans would feel more confident and less anxious. 
The anxiety comes from knowing what we are like. Only he can alleviate that by making us harder to beat.

[Paul Mani]

He won’t be sacked. But he will likely walk, soon...

[K-Hod]

Just now, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be sacked. But he will likely walk, soon...

Oh, you tease...

[G Somerset Rover]

Just now, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be sacked. But he will likely walk, soon...

Heard any whispers, Paul?

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, arbitro said:

The Blackburn End chanting 'Mowbray sort it out' made me chuckle. It's because he can't sort it out that we are in this position.

He seems to be a little sensitive over what really was a tame reaction when quite easily the heat could have been turned up. After forty years in the game he should know how fans react to a succession of poor performances and results.

 

 

 

I agree. I think the length of time it has taken and its tameness, is because they know what TM has done for us in the past.

Not many of his predecessors would have had such a period of grace, given his dire efforts in the transfer market and such awful performances over such a long period.

[roversfan99]

Just now, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be sacked. But he will likely walk, soon...

Doubt it personally.

[PeteJD13]

Just now, K-Hod said:

Oh, you tease...

tease x2! is it result dependant ?

[Paul Mani]

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Heard any whispers, Paul?

I wouldn’t say whispers as such. I’m very sure he won’t be sacked. But I’m also fairly sure that he won’t hang in there if it’s going wrong with the fans etc...he’s a really top guy. High morals and principles. Enough to walk away from his contract if necessary.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be sacked. But he will likely walk, soon...

I have no inside knowledge, but that is the clear implication of his recent comments.