Tony Mowbray Discussion

[RevidgeBlue]

If anyone from India is reading this, please make a change of manager now to give us a chance of salvaging something from this season and of avoiding a third consecutive wasted season like the last two.

[JHRover]

No nearer the play offs now than at the same point in the previous two seasons. Soon to be half way through the season and haven't occupied a top six position for more than a few days several months ago.

All the excuses known to man will get trotted out. Reality is we haven't made progress in the areas that really matter. 

Nothing will happen because too many people are comfortable with the good ship Mowbray on course for mid table drift every year.

[matt83]

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2020/december/mowbray-post-sheffield-wednesday-reaction/

🥱 

[47er]

For anyone who said "let's see where we are at Christmas", well, we are where we always are, 11th, same points as Preston who had a dreadful transfer window by common consent and whom we were laughing at a few months ago when they gave us Dolan.

Nothing to play for except avoiding any further slide. If you can't beat teams in the relegation zone at home and you can't beat anyone above you, with a squad everyone was delighted and optimistic about, there is only one conclusion---Mowbray Out!

[SamTheShrew]

Apathy. I want to feel excitement again! This won’t happen until after Mowbray 

[Waggy76]

If there was a League Table for managers , Mowbray would be in the bottom 3 ....

That is the problem , it is his job to get the best out of the players at Blackburn Rovers , it ain't happening and not likely too...

Mowbray Out !!! 

[bluefred]

His number was up ages ago , we will never get promoted with this clown incharge , he’s no excuse because over all we have a decent sqaud , just need a defence which he said he was addressing two seasons back.

TAXI FOR MOWBRAY ! 

[Tom]

Hard not to be utterly frustrated, it feels like the manager doesn’t learn and adapt.

He’s quoted today in the Telegraph saying the game went about as he expected, well he’s paid handsomely to alter that in our favour, teams have a right to put up walls, it’s his job to mastermind taking them down!

If you expect a game to go a certain way that isn’t positive and you fail to alter the course then as a manager you have failed.

[philipl]

We had the hope the injured players returning would make the difference.

That was dispelled with 20 minutes to go yesterday.

We had Dack, Brereton, Downing, Rothwell, Elliott, Armstrong all on the pitch together and Mowbray showed he hasn't got the first clue how to knit such riches together.

The tactics were still slow build up side to side hoping against hope to pull Wednesday out of position.

No urgency.

Offensive players dropping deep just to find the ball.

I counted at least four times Rovers players got in each others' ways at crucial.moments either blocking our own shots or setting up their goal and that was with the ifollow stream failing for about 20% of the match.

That just screams poor coaching.

No strategy to use the rich resources we have.

No plan B or plan C

We made it so easy for an incredibly limited Wednesday well marshalled by Pulis who did change things about to further frustrate Mowbray's mental stasis at half time.

The fans have been asking where Dack will play when he comes back.

We saw the answer yesterday-

Tony hasn't got a clue.

[andyroversmad]

When was the last time under Venky's we approached a club and paid compensation for their manager?

Correct me if i'm wrong but it seems like the standard for a manager is set too low and they only target ones that are out of work. 

[matt83]

2 hours ago, andyroversmad said:

When was the last time under Venky's we approached a club and paid compensation for their manager?

Correct me if i'm wrong but it seems like the standard for a manager is set too low and they only target ones that are out of work. 

Never. They were all out of work or internal appointments.

Kean-a crook internally appointed, Berg out of work after leaving lillestrom, Appleton out of work after leaving Blackpool, bowyer promoted from within, Lambert sacked by villa and out of work, coyle sacked (left by mutual consent) by some tin pot MLS side, Mowbray out of work after resigning from Coventry after a 10 match run where only got 6 points. A curtesy he never showed Rovers after similar Mowbray death spirals. 

[chaddyrovers]

20 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Never. They were all out of work or internal appointments.

Kean-a crook internally appointed, Berg out of work after leaving lillestrom, Appleton out of work after leaving Blackpool, bowyer promoted from within, Lambert sacked by villa and out of work, coyle sacked (left by mutual consent) by some tin pot MLS side, Mowbray out of work after resigning from Coventry after a 10 match run where only got 6 points. A curtesy he never showed Rovers after similar Mowbray death spirals. 

Appleton was still employed by Blackpool when Rovers went to approach him. 

[matt83]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Appleton was still employed by Blackpool when Rovers went to approach him. 

Didn’t he resign? So we didn’t actually pay any compensation to Blackpool

[chaddyrovers]

26 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Didn’t he resign? So we didn’t actually pay any compensation to Blackpool

Blackpool gave permission for him to speak to us I think. 

[arbitro]

It's all so frustrating. Mowbray has got most of the pieces of the jigsaw to get us into a top six position in my opinion but the main factor behind the reason we are not is him. In his nigh on four years here he hasn't come up with a way to beat teams who are prepared to sit in and defend. His current obsession seems to be a passing game but it seems teams have sussed that one and as a one trick pony there isn't a plan B. His stubbornness with playing Gallagher out wide is frankly embarrassing. It's clear to the vast majority that it isn't and won't ever work but it's like he's trying to prove a point invariably though at the expense of the team. Results are everything in this game, they determine the on and off field success and Mowbray is falling well short in his feast or famine tenure

In my view he has run out of ideas, not just him but his coaching staff. He still tries to talk the talk though and some of his interviews do him no favours.

We have gone from stability to stagnation under Mowbray in four years.

 

[TheRoversReturn]

Everything's in place for a top six finish.

Except the manager?

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

It's all so frustrating. Mowbray has got most of the pieces of the jigsaw to get us into a top six position in my opinion but the main factor behind the reason we are not is him. In his nigh on four years here he hasn't come up with a way to beat teams who are prepared to sit in and defend. His current obsession seems to be a passing game but it seems teams have sussed that one and as a one trick pony there isn't a plan B. His stubbornness with playing Gallagher out wide is frankly embarrassing. It's clear to the vast majority that it isn't and won't ever work but it's like he's trying to prove a point invariably though at the expense of the team. Results are everything in this game, they determine the on and off field success and Mowbray is falling well short in his feast or famine tenure

In my view he has run out of ideas, not just him but his coaching staff. He still tries to talk the talk though and some of his interviews do him no favours.

We have gone from stability to stagnation under Mowbray in four years.

 

He's a terrible combination of genuinely thick and stubborn.

Not learning from your mistakes is utterly unforgivable in any profession, in football its even worse.

Everyone can see the issues; playing players out of position, not giving any focus whatsoever on the defence, investing in injury prone players, throwing non favourites under the bus, lying about being on a journey for self preservation etc etc 

Can't stand the bloke now, any favour he did carry for getting the best squad by a distance in League One promoted, has long gone. I really wish he'd just f5ck off, I'd literally take any other option that Venkys stumble across, this is how fed up I am of him.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Who's going to have the balls to sack Mowbray....his best mate Waggott?

Owners who never visit,The club is still in a huge malaise.

[jim mk2]

Apart from a disastrous run of results similar to his time at Coventry, what will it take for Mowbray to depart ?

Shearer summed up Newcastle fans' frustration on MotD last night - they want their club and team if not winning trophies but to be seen to be competitive and challenging, "not just to be happy just to exist"

Because that's what we're doing at the moment - just existing, going through the motions of playing games, winning a few, losing a few, without any sign of breaking this grinding, frustrating nothingness. 

[chaddyrovers]

49 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Who's going to have the balls to sack Mowbray....his best mate Waggott?

Owners who never visit,The club is still in a huge malaise.

Won't that sort of decision been made at ownership level and out of Waggott's hand? 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Won't that sort of decision been made at ownership level and out of Waggott's hand? 

You'd hope so, but if they ask Waggott for his advice, what do you think the response would be?

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You'd hope so, but if they ask Waggott for his advice, what do you think the response would be?

He got to professional..

I'm happy with Mowbray to carry on for this season and review in summer. 

[rovers11]

Can’t help but feel this season is slipping away in what has been a poor campaign so far. I only see one play off place up for grabs as I’m not convinced Reading will last the pace. For us to get that last place we’d have to be almost faultless which is just very unlikely to happen. It will be more of the same - good runs followed by bad runs.

Credit to TM for the job he’s done and the squad he’s built here but he just doesn’t have the nous to get us into the top 6. We are too easy to score against and always have been in his reign here. I don’t see that changing.

It’s all academic though, he’s not getting fired. He will leave when he wants to leave. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Won't that sort of decision been made at ownership level and out of Waggott's hand? 

It should be but they don't know their Arse from their Elbow.As Rev righly alludes to Waggot and Mowbray appear to have matters sown up...the self preservation society.

Edited December 27, 2020 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He got to professional..

I'm happy with Mowbray to carry on for this season and review in summer. 

Why do you believe it's acceptable for a manager who is failing to achieve goals he has set himself to be able to carry on underachieving for another 6 months?