Bigdoggsteel Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: he might very well be better than carter and most likely is,just the fact that mowbray previously has stated young lads who are central defenders usually ar`nt up to it physically ,then he goes and signs an 18 year old with very little experience,unless he`s the second incarnation of a rio ferdinand(if he was then he`d be on the verge of the everton first team)it`s a desperate move by a man who`s run out of ideas,not that he`s ever had much of an idea about defending,astonishing as he was a very good one as a player He is near the Everton first team, in fact he was in the first team. He was on the bench for their last 3 games and has even started PL games. I don't know if Mowbray specifically said anything about their physicality, but anyway , you really have to take palyers on an individual basis. As you say, the signs point to this guy, 18 or not, being better than what we have available. He could even be better than Wharton by the sounds of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JHRover Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Alex Ferguson once said "attack wins you games, defence wins you titles". How right he was and how we could do with that attitude here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I guess the worry about this Everton lad is that he's 18. You don't normally expect an 18 year old who hasn't played regular 1st team football at any level to come in for half a season and exercise influence on a creaky defence, to save your bacon really. He could, he might, but its not reassuring that that's where we are after 4 years of Mowbray. We're basically hoping that he's another Phil Jones and they don't come along too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Made the mistake of reading an article on the LT website this morning. Tony f7cking rabbiting on claiming to not know about a bid for the Crewe player as we have two left backs already. God is hateful at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: Made the mistake of reading an article on the LT website this morning. Tony f7cking rabbiting on claiming to not know about a bid for the Crewe player as we have two left backs already. God is hateful at times. Serves you right, by now you should know Mowbray has lost it. COYB, give Stoke a stuffing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, rigger said: Serves you right, by now you should know Mowbray has lost it. COYB, give Stoke a stuffing. I decided to do my best not to read or listen to anything he says ages ago. He's getting into Keano and Coyle territory when he opens his mouth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 hours ago, 47er said: I guess the worry about this Everton lad is that he's 18. You don't normally expect an 18 year old who hasn't played regular 1st team football at any level to come in for half a season and exercise influence on a creaky defence, to save your bacon really. He could, he might, but its not reassuring that that's where we are after 4 years of Mowbray. We're basically that he's another Phil Jones and they don't come along too often. Even the best centre half I ever saw, Mike England, wasn't ready to play first team centre half at 18 years of age. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I decided to do my best not to read or listen to anything he says ages ago. He's getting into Keano and Coyle territory when he opens his mouth. Perhaps people start believing their own bullshit when their job is under no pressure ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, rigger said: Perhaps people start believing their own bullshit when their job is under no pressure ? It's " The Kings New Clothes " syndrome. With football BCD who's there to tell him his fortune ? The " board " won't, his pals on the staff won't, the press won't, and the fans can't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller11 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: Made the mistake of reading an article on the LT website this morning. Tony f7cking rabbiting on claiming to not know about a bid for the Crewe player as we have two left backs already. God is hateful at times. “We’ve got two left backs, I’m not sure where that came from. “We’ve got Barry Douglas, we’ve got Amari’i Bell, it would seem mad to me to sign a left back when you haven’t got any centre halves.” Mowbray with a quote very similar to what other people have been getting absolutely savaged for saying by his fan club. Edited January 16, 2021 by Miller11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rigger said: Perhaps people start believing their own bullshit when their job is under no pressure ? Yep, echo chambers are created in situations like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just don’t read his interviews. I stopped listening to managers after Kean and it’s been great for stress levels ever since. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucimo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: Made the mistake of reading an article on the LT website this morning. Tony f7cking rabbiting on claiming to not know about a bid for the Crewe player as we have two left backs already. God is hateful at times. I'm fortunate. I can't access the telegraph stories unless I pay for it. Frankly it's not worth forking out for, no matter how little it costs Edited January 16, 2021 by Lucimo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Those comments are woeful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted January 16, 2021 Backroom Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Mattyblue said: Just don’t read his interviews. I stopped listening to managers after Kean and it’s been great for stress levels ever since. I only know what TM says because I read it quoted on here. I certainly never go looking for his views as they have for a very long time been very much opposed to my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Two wins in ten. Please, please just do the honourable thing Tony. FFS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skous18 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I predict that he will go after the Boro game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, skous18 said: I predict that he will go after the Boro game whats brings you to that very hopefull conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoversReturn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He's so obviously run his course, it's hard to see why he still has his supporters. Why? Do they support Mowbray over Rovers? As he's obviously not the best person for the job. Not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted January 16, 2021 Backroom Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheRoversReturn said: He's so obviously run his course, it's hard to see why he still has his supporters. Why? Do they support Mowbray over Rovers? Generally it's the same people who told us to support Kean and Coyle as well. More supporters of whichever manager is in situ than Mowbray himself. We've well and truly stagnated under TM and the rot has set in. The longer he stays the worse it's going to get. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skous18 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: whats brings you to that very hopefull conclusion I just cant see us getting any points from the next two matches and i think he will just walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, skous18 said: I just cant see us getting any points from the next two matches and i think he will just walk i`ve been hoping that very scenario will ensue for the last 18 months!!!!!!!!!!,the **** is still here😥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 What pisses me off is our journalists - Andy Bayes, Rich Sharpe and Jaquob Cooke, they need to be asking the difficult questions, call him out on his bullshit! The fact he was allowed to say I don't care about the stats I let my eyes decide on performance was a disgrace. He constantly talks about stats. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) It's dire Tony...it's no longer working. Please do the decent thing and give us a chance of salvaging something from this ever spiralling piss pot of a season. Edited January 16, 2021 by SIMON GARNERS 194 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He's not going anywhere, anytime soon. Our only hope is someone comes in for him... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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