Tony Mowbray Discussion

[booth]

The tide has really turned now on social media. Looks like the penny has finally dropped.

I think there's only Chaddy left.

[DE.]

1 minute ago, matt83 said:

I’ve honestly felt like it was the end of the road a few times this season. It never is. Throughly depressing state of affairs. 

Yep, quite a few performances this season where it's been obvious that Mowbray has lost the players mentally even if it isn't a full-on "lost the dressing room" mutiny. The lads aren't putting in the extra graft for the gaffer and looking at how he sets them up each match who can blame them at this point? They are likely as confused as we are by what the "philosophy" is, whilst our "journey" seems to be taking us off a cliff edge into the abyss of Championship mediocrity (and soon we may consider that a fortunate fate).

At most clubs Mowbray would have had his bags packed some time ago. Probably during that period where we lost 9 out of 11 games. Instead the manager and players carry on like zombies, a lifeless husk of a club in desperate need of change from the very top, let alone the manager's position. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

5 minutes ago, DE. said:

Yep, quite a few performances this season where it's been obvious that Mowbray has lost the players mentally even if it isn't a full-on "lost the dressing room" mutiny. The lads aren't putting in the extra graft for the gaffer and looking at how he sets them up each match who can blame them at this point? They are likely as confused as we are by what the "philosophy" is, whilst our "journey" seems to be taking us off a cliff edge into the abyss of Championship mediocrity (and soon we may consider that a fortunate fate).

At most clubs Mowbray would have had his bags packed some time ago. Probably during that period where we lost 9 out of 11 games. Instead the manager and players carry on like zombies, a lifeless husk of a club in desperate need of change from the very top, let alone the manager's position. 

It was obvious to those with eyes that see that he'd lost the players a few games ago. They're playing to get him out now in my opinion.

[Don Said]

Mowbray confirmed he left Nyambe out as ‘he’s got to select a team, one or two won’t make the match day squad’.

He proceeded to play the crocked, long finished Elliott Bennett.

Absolute disgrace for me.

[roverandout]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It was obvious to those with eyes that see that he'd lost the players a few games ago. They're playing to get him out now in my opinion.

I pray for that. I was thinking before the game why don't the players just down tools . Clearly they have no respect for him. Its not as if there are fans to get on the players backs if they play badly

[riverholmes]

There have been times this season when Mowbray looked on to something - eg. the performance against an admittedly dreadful Newcastle side.

However, Holtby, who was key to that hasn't retained form, fitness or favour and no-one has filled his boots, yet.

Ironically, a fragile but talented freebie, in Holtby, is more important to the side that the multi-million pound forwards we've signed.

If Don Said is accurately reporting that Nyambe was left out of the match day squad on merit, rather than injury or illness or another reason, it is a terrible example of management. Nyambe deserved, at least, to be on the bench. We know that Buckley is not going to play much, after Mowbray hooked him from the sub cameo, so Nyambe, at least, should've been on the bench ahead of a player that is definitely not going to play.

Edited February 17, 2021 by riverholmes

[Armchair supporter supremo]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It was obvious to those with eyes that see that he'd lost the players a few games ago. They're playing to get him out now in my opinion.

 very much looks that way, lets just hope this doesn't become another Venky Farce and they make a swift change before  player moral completely disintegrates and we go into freefall. 

 

Saying that I think for as long as top 6 is still mathematically possible and we win the occasional game then Mowbrey and his cronies will continue to bs the venkys(or whoever makes the big decisions at the club these days)

[simongarnerisgod]

5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It was obvious to those with eyes that see that he'd lost the players a few games ago. They're playing to get him out now in my opinion.

reminiscent of ince,it was clear no one liked him,kean,just a complete buffoon and coyle,also a raving idiot,if you can`t maintain or get the players respect,then it`s over,goodnight and goodbye

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

5 minutes ago, Don Said said:

Mowbray confirmed he left Nyambe out as ‘he’s got to select a team, one or two won’t make the match day squad’.

He proceeded to play the crocked, long finished Elliott Bennett.

Absolute disgrace for me.

Bennett actually worked First half - but not to have Nyambe on the bench was criminal  (unless he has spat his dummy out)

[booth]

Bit of a theory.

Mowbray sat there, inanimate whilst Venus is managing the team.

Anyone seen Weekend at Bernies?

[RV Blue]

5 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

Bennett actually worked First half - but not to have Nyambe on the bench was criminal  (unless he has spat his dummy out)

He would have had every right to ‘spit his dummy out’.

[Ewood Ace]

I'm sorry but with this comment he has almost reached Kean levels of hate for me. He say's this about our great club yet when we played his beloved Boro (who have one major honour in their entire history) the other week he talked them up like they were Man United. If he really wants to show the club a bit of respect then just bugger off.

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by Ewood Ace

[RV Blue]

29 minutes ago, matt83 said:

I’ve honestly felt like it was the end of the road a few times this season. It never is. Throughly depressing state of affairs. 

I’ve wanted him out for as long as anyone else on this board but tonight felt different to me, he completely lost the plot.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

No Tony, we'll judge it now. You're fired! 

[DE.]

If Mowbray had truly lost the dressing room or the players wanted him out we'd be getting hammered regularly. We may play some dire stuff but we aren't getting battered results-wise on a weekly basis.

The players just look confused and massively lacking motivation. I think they've lost faith in TM being the man to get us up, but have enough respect for him not to down tools and give up entirely. 

This makes the decline extremely slow and tedious. If we were getting smashed each week the pressure would pile on far quicker, but because our defeats are generally narrow and we pick up wins here and there it never looks that bad - even though as supporters most of us know this "journey" should have ended some time ago. 

[booth]

22 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

I'm sorry but with this comment he has almost reached Kean levels of hate for me. He say's this about our great club yet when we played his beloved Boro (who have one major honour in their entire history) the other week he talked them up like they were Man United. If he really wants to show the club a bit of respect then just bugger off.

 

You're right Tony, and it's because of chancers like you that we aren't.

Tony Mowbray. What a wanker.

Edited February 17, 2021 by booth

[47er]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Raya was liability when here and getting rid of him and finally getting Kaminski was correct decision for our club. 

 

The key word there is "finally", that season was a bloody nightmare.

[47er]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said on Monday I am undecided on his future currently after that pathetic performance against Preston. 

"move in the right direction " as the song goes!

[simongarnerisgod]

6 minutes ago, DE. said:

If Mowbray had truly lost the dressing room or the players wanted him out we'd be getting hammered regularly. We may play some dire stuff but we aren't getting battered results-wise on a weekly basis.

The players just look confused and massively lacking motivation. I think they've lost faith in TM being the man to get us up, but have enough respect for him not to down tools and give up entirely. 

This makes the decline extremely slow and tedious. If we were getting smashed each week the pressure would pile on far quicker, but because our defeats are generally narrow and we pick up wins here and there it never looks that bad - even though as supporters most of us know this "journey" should have ended some time ago. 

we hav`nt started to get hammered regularly because we`ve been playing limited sides lately,the hammerings will start soon enough when we take on the promotion chasing teams

[Exiled_Rover]

31 minutes ago, riverholmes said:

There have been times this season when Mowbray looked on to something - eg. the performance against an admittedly dreadful Newcastle side.

However, Holtby, who was key to that hasn't retained form, fitness or favour and no-one has filled his boots, yet.

Ironically, a fragile but talented freebie, in Holtby, is more important to the side that the multi-million pound forwards we've signed.

If Don Said is accurately reporting that Nyambe was left out of the match day squad on merit, rather than injury or illness or another reason, it is a terrible example of management. Nyambe deserved, at least, to be on the bench. We know that Buckley is not going to play much, after Mowbray hooked him from the sub cameo, so Nyambe, at least, should've been on the bench ahead of a player that is definitely not going to play.

I swear he's DARING the Venky's to sack him.

On the back of a woeful performance against PNE he turns up at Barnsley and trots the players out in a system we've not used all year, playing a style of football that's a 180 degree change from what we've tried to implement for three years.

He then starts a utility player at RWB who's coming back from a long term injury and doesn't put the RB he's been basically playing as a RWB all season on the bench just incase, y'know, the aforementioned player tires after being asked to roam the entire right flank for 90 minutes. 

Don't even get me started on Evans being the first change, Dolan being asked to play RWB or Brereton being brought on with 5 minutes to go. 

Edited February 17, 2021 by Exiled_Rover

[Blue blood]

39 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

I'm sorry but with this comment he has almost reached Kean levels of hate for me. He say's this about our great club yet when we played his beloved Boro (who have one major honour in their entire history) the other week he talked them up like they were Man United. If he really wants to show the club a bit of respect then just bugger off.

 

Absolutely. Another utter and complete lie to make himself look less incompetent. Yes he is less corrupt then Kean but there is very little integrity there. Many of his quotes could pass for Kean's and that speaks volumes. 

Horrible person. Horrible manager. Get rid 

 

 

 

 

[roversfan99]

No problem with Dunn defending Mowbray. We all have our own opinions and it doesnt tarnish his reputation.

The guy he is quoting is well of the mark. Acknowledge where we are ie accept medicority. Changing managers every few years as if managers lasting over 4 years is the norm. Using an example whereby a team that was stagnant suddenly got a play off place then won the league after an ambitious and imaginative new managerial appointment. And quoting a new philosophy which is a mystery to us all.

[Ewood Ace]

How times change and it's so unlike Tony to move the goalposts when things aren't going well.

 

November 2019: 'This is Blackburn Rovers' - Boss maintains need for ambition | Lancashire Telegraph

 

 

Feb 2021: 

 

Edited February 18, 2021 by Ewood Ace

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I swear he's DARING the Venky's to sack him.

On the back of a woeful performance against PNE he turns up at Barnsley and trots the players out in a system we've not used all year, playing a style of football that's a 180 degree change from what we've tried to implement for three years.

Yes,and if you look the first goal was a direct result of the system not being practised and the players not used to it.  The right sided defender of the 3 should have closed the scorer down, his natural instinct was to go into a CH position, where we already had cover.  Absolutely no question that Mowbray is to blame, unless he's been drilling them all week on this system.........I suspect not.

[RevidgeBlue]

**Tin hat on**

I'll probably get slated for saying this but I want Mowbray out far more than I ever wanted Coyle out or arguably even Kean out.

The reasoning behind this seemingly insane statement is that imo it's a full two years since it became blindingly obvious he was out of his depth at Championship level and needed to be replaced.

With Coyle we were usually well in games until one or more pieces of calamitous defending invariably cost us and I never thought we played that badly under him or that the players ever stopped playing for him.

Even Kean had us in 5th or 6th when he was sacked. That was relatively early on in the season and would probably have got worse but it's still a position TM could only dream of.

If Mowbray had have been replaced two years ago I'd have had full respect for the job he did in stabilising us and bringing us back up. Instead it just seems to me he's been in full self preservation mode ever since with this "jam tomorrow" "slow build" crap to explain away his ownfailings. As a result I've grown to really dislike him and nothing in his managerial stats in the meantime has persuaded me I'm being unreasonable.