Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Ozz]

1 hour ago, Ulrich said:

The funnies have it. Do you want me to call you a cab? I'll borrow mum's dog n bone 📞👍😂😂😂

I thought Aussies had a sense of humour.

Not even bothering to comment on today's words from TM he should have gotten in the cab......

You seem alright really mate. Carry on. 

[glen9mullan]

Reading his latest interview on the back of the last couple of weeks statements, then one word comes to mind "bitter".

I've said a few times this season prior to Xmas, that injuries had massively hindered us, and on that basis I wouldnt change manager.

However since Xmas, with injuries clearing and heavily backed in the january window by the owners he has zero excuses.

His team selection for the last 2 matches in particular was criminal. I'd sack him for that alone, his faith is poor signings like Gallager who cant trap a bag of cement, cant pass, cant shoot, cant cross, cant win a 50/50 cross, has poor positional play, and has me saying everytime he gets the ball. "FFS". Even his team mates appear to now avoid passing to him.

He aint alone though, there are those who are hungry, and then those whose application is like they stole the buffet.

Our league position for the talent at his disposal is miles short of the minimum expectation.

Tms body language, sudden attitude of "go #### yourself, your opinion means ####" is most disappointing. He is sounding delusional, in a results winning business. He sounds like a bad gambler who tells you about the £100 he won this week, but fails to mention the previous month his family didnt eat and he couldnt pay his bills because he lost thousands".

Im sorry my opinion has finally broke on him, i've tried hard to be patient, to wait for it to all come together, but deep down know change is needed, and only an empty ground is keeping him in a job"

Edited February 19, 2021 by glen9mullan

[Stuart]

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

“I’m only trying to build a football team, build a club, with an identity, and I mentioned Brentford, I don’t know how many years they’ve been trying, they were top of the table and just lost two games, are they all moaning at Brentford? Maybe, I don’t know because I don’t see it."

"At this moment we haven't, we are doing with what we’ve got our very best and it feels a little bit like a lack of support from certain areas, but that’s okay, because the group are quite tight and we’ll get on with it together.”

 

a couple of digs at the fans??

Bowyer-esque.

Let’s hope it precedes a change in the same way.

”If we were top of the league and lost a couple of games would fans moan then?”

I don’t know Tone but with you in charge we won’t ever find out.

[AllRoverAsia]

25 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Bowyer-esque.

Let’s hope it precedes a change in the same way.

”If we were top of the league and lost a couple of games would fans moan then?”

I don’t know Tone but with you in charge we won’t ever find out.

He's having a dig at fans and the LT.

He just can't handle any level or criticism despite having ''“a big steel barrier up in front and you can’t hurt me''

It's ok as the squad are quite tight, down from ''very'' I see.

Edited February 19, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[OldEwoodBlue]

I couldn't give a fuck about his feelings. This is my club...your club...our club...

His club is Boro.

He has been OK but way past time to move on and take us forward.

No sentiment when Chelsea dumped Frank.

Where the fuck is Suhail the axe wielder ?

[OldEwoodBlue]

Point.

It gets right on my tits when he always refers to "Blackburn Rovers"

If he was in it with US he would say "US".

Full of shit and time to go Tony.

 

[Wood26]

On 13/02/2021 at 09:01, Ewood Ace said:

In the 3 season since we have been back in the Championship Swansea have spent about £8 Million, in the same time we have spent £15 Million just on strikers. In the last 2 seasons with Cooper in charge they have spent  £2.2 Million on transfers so less than half of what we spent just on Sam Gallagher in that same period.

Reading in the 3 years since we have been back in the Championship have spent around the same as us although their net spend is a fair bit less than ours. 

Brentford have made a significant profit in terms of transfers because they are always forced to sell their best players something that has never happened to Mowbray. 

Norwich are only in a position to spend money because they got to the Premiership but Farke got them into the Prem by spending less than Mowbray has already spent and he had two of his best player sold in Murphy and Maddison.

You got a lot of likes for this comment, but it’s factually incorrect.

2018/2019 Swansea spent £60 million, we spent £8 million.

Your other wishy washy comparisons suggest my original point, to the guy who was saying on budget we should be top 6, is correct.

Again, my original response to the guy saying based on budget we should be top 6, no we shouldn’t, we are where we should be if judged on spend.

[Wood26]

On 13/02/2021 at 07:36, martonrover said:

To the contrary, I think the only chance of Nyambe staying, and possibly the others, is to change the manager.

Ambitious players will not want to stay if Mowbray does.

Our best player, and to my knowledge only one who openly says he wants EPL no matter what, is Dack. And he just signed a new contract.

[Ewood Ace]

14 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

You got a lot of likes for this comment, but it’s factually incorrect.

2018/2019 Swansea spent £60 million, we spent £8 million.

Your other wishy washy comparisons suggest my original point, to the guy who was saying on budget we should be top 6, is correct.

Again, my original response to the guy saying based on budget we should be top 6, no we shouldn’t, we are where we should be if judged on spend.

That is absolute nonsense as you can see in the link below. So if you are going to give me these wishy washy responses at least get your facts right.

Swansea City - Transfers 18/19 (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt

 

[Sparks Rover]

11 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

Our best player, and to my knowledge only one who openly says he wants EPL no matter what, is Dack. And he just signed a new contract.

irrelevant 

[roverandout]

5 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

That is absolute nonsense as you can see in the link below. So if you are going to give me these wishy washy responses at least get your facts right.

Swansea City - Transfers 18/19 (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt

 

The Mowbrayites just pluck numbers out the air to suit their argument 

[Tom]

I still can’t believe he expects us to swallow the nonsense about Nyambe.

Previous 2 games he has THB on the bench itching to bring him on yet when THB starts Nyambe, who can play right back and in the middle can’t make the bench because of course we need Buckley there along with Rothwell, Elliot, Dolan, Evans and Brereton.....you know just in case 5 midfielders get injured.

In fact I recall he did similar 18 months or so ago, all of a sudden Bennett was in at right back and Nyambe out of the squad.

Also he’s cost us a few goals recently so like Raya he has to be dropped and made an example of in interviews.

Good job nobody else has made any mistakes this season then

If there is one constant in football it’s that managers will perpetually come out with self serving nonsense, even ‘decent and honest’ ones but this is just insulting 

Edited February 19, 2021 by Tom

[Tom Stinny]

29 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

Our best player, and to my knowledge only one who openly says he wants EPL no matter what, is Dack. And he just signed a new contract.

Let's not be short sighted, Dacks only signed a contract because he got a bad injury. No injury and he'd be doing exactly what Armstrong is.

 

He's financially set for the next few years while he get used to any setbacks this injury has caused. I don't knock him for that but don't try and convince anyone he's signed out of love of belief in Mowbrays vision. That's crap.

[47er]

7 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Isn't he moaning at the likes of Rich Sharpe making perceived negative comments?

Not like the fans are getting on his back in empty stadiums - I'm assuming he doesn't come on here.

Why would anyone be moaning at Brentford? Is he saying building a promotion team takes years and fans haven't moaned while Brentford were doing it?

He's had years and we are as far away as ever.

[Wood26]

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

That is absolute nonsense as you can see in the link below. So if you are going to give me these wishy washy responses at least get your facts right.

Swansea City - Transfers 18/19 (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/swansea-city/transfers/verein/2288/saison_id/2017
 

Sorry my mistake it was year before, but still within Mowbray era.

[Ewood Ace]

1 minute ago, Wood26 said:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/swansea-city/transfers/verein/2288/saison_id/2017
 

Sorry my mistake it was year before, but still within Mowbray era.

And all those players they bought though with the exception of Ayew were sold the following season.

[Wood26]

1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

And all those players they bought though with the exception of Ayew were sold the following season.

 

2 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

And all those players they bought though with the exception of Ayew were sold the following season.

And? He cost 20 million and is their top scorer this season. Our squad isn’t £20 million.

[Wood26]

3 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

And all those players they bought though with the exception of Ayew were sold the following season.

And? He cost £20 million and is there top scorer this season? Our squad isn’t £20 million 

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, Wood26 said:

 

And? He cost 20 million and is their top scorer this season. Our squad isn’t £20 million.

It is. Brereton £7 Million, Gallagher £5 Million, Armstrong £3 Million, Dack £750K, Kaminski £450K, Pears £350K, Evans £750K, Rothwell and Davenport( both undisclosed but probably a few hundred thousand each), Bell £300K, Elliott £4 Million, Branthwaite £1 Million, Pickering £650K. But even if it isn'' this is the Championship there are always sides going to come down who have players that cost a lot but very often they are more of hindrance than a help as we know only to well. Also Ayew isn't a £20 Million player anymore if he was then he would still be at Swansea.

[Wood26]

4 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

It is. Brereton £7 Million, Gallagher £5 Million, Armstrong £3 Million, Dack £750K, Kaminski £450K, Pears £350K, Evans £750K, Rothwell and Davenport( both undisclosed but probably a few hundred thousand each), Bell £300K, Elliott £4 Million, Branthwaite £1 Million, Pickering £650K. But even if it isn'' this is the Championship there are always sides going to come down who have players that cost a lot but very often they are more of hindrance than a help as we know only to well. Also Ayew isn't a £20 Million player anymore if he was then he would still be at Swansea.

I agree he’s not worth 20 Million, and Dack isn’t wort 750k. Original point was the guy was acting like we are Man City throwing money about and we are not.

The latest stuff with Nyambe, does anyone really care he was dropped? Same as Rothwell. Have the odd good moment, but by no means deserve to start every week.

Nyambe is fast and strong, as an attacking full back though, hopeless. He’s got one move, stand still, then Knock long me chase after, then after that 9/10 no end product.

Same fans crying over Nyambe are same who didn’t want Armstrong in the side.

[JHRover]

Nyambe wasn't just dropped. He was bombed out of the squad altogether. That's my gripe. A manager can pick his preferred XI on form, mistakes, plans but Nyambe if fit has to be in the squad and an option from the bench. There can be no excuse nor justification for that omission. I do not think any other defender - THB, Branthwaite, Lenihan, Ayala, Douglas, Bell - would ever be dropped out of the squad if fit. Mowbray wouldn't dare. He does with Nyambe.

[Ewood Ace]

3 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

Nyambe is fast and strong, as an attacking full back though, hopeless. He’s got one move, stand still, then Knock long me chase after, then after that 9/10 no end product.

Only 2 right backs in the division have more assists than Nyambe. He's an excellent defender and is improving all the time going forward. If he does depart this summer then we will not get a better player than Nyambe in. 

[Wood26]

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

Only 2 right backs in the division have more assists than Nyambe. He's an excellent defender and is improving all the time going forward. If he does depart this summer then we will not get a better player than Nyambe in. 

You don’t know that. We lost Graham, Mulgrew and Dack who scored all our goals, and then Armstrong appeared.

Honestly couldn’t care less if Nyambe left. We will get some one else, they will do fine.

If you think Nyambe is integral to our team, your not watching every match. Yeh he’s alright. That’s about it.

[Ulrich]

8 hours ago, Ozz said:

You seem alright really mate. Carry on. 

Thanks Ozzzz, nice to meet you too 👍 I hope you are all well down under?

3 hours ago, Tom said:

I still can’t believe he expects us to swallow the nonsense about Nyambe.

Previous 2 games he has THB on the bench itching to bring him on yet when THB starts Nyambe, who can play right back and in the middle can’t make the bench because of course we need Buckley there along with Rothwell, Elliot, Dolan, Evans and Brereton.....you know just in case 5 midfielders get injured.

In fact I recall he did similar 18 months or so ago, all of a sudden Bennett was in at right back and Nyambe out of the squad.

Also he’s cost us a few goals recently so like Raya he has to be dropped and made an example of in interviews.

Good job nobody else has made any mistakes this season then

If there is one constant in football it’s that managers will perpetually come out with self serving nonsense, even ‘decent and honest’ ones but this is just insulting 

If he likes you / you get on etc. Then you are immune. Doesn't like you / fallout etc... Watch out for the bus.

 

[yellowsubmarine]

I may be the only one but I'm really starting to hate this man. Whatever he has done for us in the first 2 seasons, the appreciation and gratitude to him are slowly evaporating.

With every match, every interview, he doesnt seem to know what he's doing or saying. Totally disillusional. All that talk about been 2nd in possession in the league is just rubbish when we aren't getting results. Do we get a wildcard promotion if we win the possession league?

It's getting stale. I know a new manager wont guaranteed promotion but sometimes, you just need a slight reboot.