Tony Mowbray Discussion

[K-Hod]

‘Everybody needs to be patient with Mowbray’. He’s had four years, clearly this is being conveniently overlooked!

[martonrover]

6 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

It will be a real low if we lose to Coventry at the weekend, plus ,he still probably won't be sacked 

We will probably win, leading to the Facebook group having a whip round to start work on the statue.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

15 minutes ago, Dan said:

Here’s a random quote 

 

“I think everyone needs to be patient with Mowbray, we’ve played really well yet again, we need to look at the positives, I think the young lads at centre back have been really solid, it’s all that right backs fault, we definitely missed Sam Gallaghers physicality today, did you know we have lots of injuries?”. 
 

a few want him out, a few saying the grass won’t be greener etc. 🙄

[riverholmes]

Watching the Watford game highlights, I feel that once again the team formation is helping to fail Rovers. In the highlights, you see a number of times two fundamental defensive weaknesses - on the flanks and through the central midfield. For all the criticism that the defence has received, it seems to me that they are receiving scant protection sometimes.

By way of example, Watford's third goal, by Ken Sema, Ryan Nyambe comes out of position to close down a player in the midfield position. Watford work it around him and play it down the left and score. No Rovers midfielder is in the vicinity to realistically help the defence.

I believe that this 4-3-3 business, mimicking the Premier League and other clubs, is a major part of the failing. It is all very well playing Harvey Elliot, Dack and Armstrong up top - but it requires players to track back to protect the full-backs, as wingers are expected to do in a 4-4-2 formation. It also requires someone to hold the ball up at the top. It also requires the central midfielders to know who will perform the holding role and shield the central defence.

Until the formation is corrected, so that players know their defensive duties, I think we will continue to struggle. 

Just another point, normally, during central defensive injury crises, experienced full-backs are pulled in. I do not know why Nyambe or Douglas are not partnering one of the youngsters in the middle. Nyambe seems the obvious choice. It's not ideal but I believe is far preferable to playing two young players with so little experience (and who are not being protected by the rest of the team).

Edited February 25, 2021 by riverholmes

[roverandout]

17 minutes ago, Dan said:

Here’s a random quote 

 

“I think everyone needs to be patient with Mowbray, we’ve played really well yet again, we need to look at the positives, I think the young lads at centre back have been really solid, it’s all that right backs fault, we definitely missed Sam Gallaghers physicality today, did you know we have lots of injuries?”. 
 

a few want him out, a few saying the grass won’t be greener etc. 🙄

Aghhh

[G Somerset Rover]

18 minutes ago, Dan said:

Here’s a random quote 

“I think everyone needs to be patient with Mowbray, we’ve played really well yet again, we need to look at the positives, I think the young lads at centre back have been really solid, it’s all that right backs fault, we definitely missed Sam Gallaghers physicality today, did you know we have lots of injuries?”. 

a few want him out, a few saying the grass won’t be greener etc. 🙄

I read a corker on Twitter yesterday: "What's he meant to do with that midfield?!". Looks like this bloke wanted to go for a different tact over the much maligned defence. 

The one he's had four years to assemble without having to sell anybody you mean?

Edited February 25, 2021 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[Richard Oakley]

The facebook crowd prove you can fool some of the people all of the time. Nobody posting on here during the game said that we 'played really well'.

@chaddyroversargues that a new appointment is needed now and I agree. I saw a poster say we appointed Souness with 15 games to go in a season and he got us promoted. It can happen, again. I hope the rumours of negotiations with Hughes are true and near fruition. I think Venkys need to focus on one target and build a management team around him and I hope that's what they are doing.

Relying on Venkys to do the right thing is a very unusual place to be. I believe Venkys will act in a timely fashion, this time. I have faith.

 

[Swanson]

5 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

The facebook crowd prove you can fool some of the people all of the time. Nobody posting on here during the game said that we 'played really well'.

@chaddyroversargues that a new appointment is needed now and I agree. I saw a poster say we appointed Souness with 15 games to go in a season and he got us promoted. It can happen, again. I hope the rumours of negotiations with Hughes are true and near fruition. I think Venkys need to focus on one target and build a management team around him and I hope that's what they are doing.

Relying on Venkys to do the right thing is a very unusual place to be. I believe Venkys will act in a timely fashion, this time. I have faith.

 

Is there a rumour about Hughes?

[Tugay-is-God]

31 minutes ago, Dan said:

Here’s a random quote 

 

“I think everyone needs to be patient with Mowbray, we’ve played really well yet again, we need to look at the positives, I think the young lads at centre back have been really solid, it’s all that right backs fault, we definitely missed Sam Gallaghers physicality today, did you know we have lots of injuries?”.

Is no one else picking up that this person was obviously being sarcastic?

[Richard Oakley]

1 minute ago, Swanson said:

Is there a rumour about Hughes?

Allegedly on twitter. I've not read it.

[Bigdoggsteel]

8 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

The facebook crowd prove you can fool some of the people all of the time. Nobody posting on here during the game said that we 'played really well'.

@chaddyroversargues that a new appointment is needed now and I agree. I saw a poster say we appointed Souness with 15 games to go in a season and he got us promoted. It can happen, again. I hope the rumours of negotiations with Hughes are true and near fruition. I think Venkys need to focus on one target and build a management team around him and I hope that's what they are doing.

Relying on Venkys to do the right thing is a very unusual place to be. I believe Venkys will act in a timely fashion, this time. I have faith.

 

What rumours are these? 

[Richard Oakley]

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

What rumours are these? 

That Hughes is interested in coming back and that Venkys are negotiating with him. As I have said, I hope that's true. I've not read the tweet that another poster mentioned on here. 

[Mattyblue]

There’s always these uber-positive fools on social media, but they don’t matter in normal times - it’s the crowd in the ground that usually have the measure of a manager.

Without that seemingly the only insight is Facebook groups and they are getting a prominence they generally don’t have (doesn’t make it any less infuriating to read like!)

Edited February 25, 2021 by Mattyblue

[Mike E]

13 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

The facebook crowd prove you can fool some of the people all of the time. Nobody posting on here during the game said that we 'played really well'.

@chaddyroversargues that a new appointment is needed now and I agree. I saw a poster say we appointed Souness with 15 games to go in a season and he got us promoted. It can happen, again. I hope the rumours of negotiations with Hughes are true and near fruition. I think Venkys need to focus on one target and build a management team around him and I hope that's what they are doing.

Relying on Venkys to do the right thing is a very unusual place to be. I believe Venkys will act in a timely fashion, this time. I have faith.

 

That's a week of traction you've just guaranteed this site, whether true or not 😅

[Silas]

37 minutes ago, Dan said:

"....we need to look at the positives, I think the young lads at centre back have been really solid,..."
 

We've conceded 8 goals in the last 4 matches. 

Therefore, no-one has been "solid". 

Why do people try and argue against undisputable facts. 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

4.45pm it is, then (which is just after the close at the cricket too 👀)

I Doubt the cricket will last that long

[Hasta]

What really didn't help yesterday, and over the last few games, is the reliance on two unproven loans in the defence. It difficult to criticise as they were brought in as cover, not to be the mainstay of the defence, but they have a hand in all bar one of Watford highlights - 

 

For the first Watford Chance, Harwood-Bellis and Travis can both see the guy that eventually takes the shot. Travis ignores him to get back into midfield and Harwood-Bellis is looking at the man behind (who Nyambe has) and is slow to get across.

For the first goal Branthwaite is just slow to get out, plays the man onside and then stands watching him with his hand in the air instead of trying to do something about it.

For the second goal its a clear, basic error in dealing with the ball in by Harwood-Bellis.

For the next Watford chance Rothwell is just stood on the edge of the box sorting his collar out instead of falling back to pick up the extra man.

For the final goal Nyambe steps out as Harwood-Bellis has the other striker covered, but watch how slow Branthwaite is to react to the runner from midfield who ends up receiving the ball. 

We've complained constantly about not strengthening the defence. We knew it was short on cover every transfer window for the last 3 years. And yet here we are losing games with two teenage defenders who have made less that 15 starts between them in senior football before they arrived at Ewood. 

It's just poor, poor management of a squad.

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by Hasta

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Silence from the club is embarrassing. 

Same record for number of defeats in a row as Kean.

Mowbrays constant shifting of judgement drives me crazy.

Is he the honourable and honest man we all originally thought he was? 

He probably thinks he is capable of turning it around, if he has any self belief. And even if he doesnt, none of us would just give up a contract like that.

The owners have the responsibility of sacking him and sadly they wont.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Coyle was sacked by Rovers mid afternoon around 3.30pm

Bowyer was sacked by Rovers in the evening just after 6pm if memory serves me correct. 

I wouldnt get your hopes up, there is more chance of us winning the league this season than of Mowbray being sacked today. The owners wont know what score it was last night.

[benhben]

Do we actually have a board room anymore? When was the last time we heard of anyone other than Mowbray. Do we actually have a chairman or CEO? Has Waggot actually retired already?

No wonder theres no pressure on anyone to perform. 

[Butty]

17 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

That Hughes is interested in coming back and that Venkys are negotiating with him. As I have said, I hope that's true. I've not read the tweet that another poster mentioned on here. 

20 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

Allegedly on twitter. I've not read it.

I’ve just been on Twitter and can’t see anything linking us with Sparky not even a rumour. Sorry to burst the bubble. 

[gumboots]

The guy who phoned in to 606 mentioned it at the weekend

[Richard Oakley]

Just now, Butty said:

I’ve just been on Twitter and can’t see anything linking us with Sparky not even a rumour. Sorry to burst the bubble. 

Sorry that you went on a wild goose chase.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Butty said:

I’ve just been on Twitter and anc’t see anything linking us with Sparky not even a rumour. Sorry to burst the bubble. 

We are more likely to be linked to Torchy the battery boy

[rovers11]

I think that TM will resign at the end of the season, probably along with Waggot. That's my hunch. 

TM has dropped hints recently to suggest he won't be here - comments he made around the training ground and "not wanting to be a burden" on the club. He also looks like he's no longer enjoying the job and he'll know he's lost the support of the fans. 

I don't agree with fans who question his integrity or compare him to Kean, that's just nonsense. He had enough credit in the bank to have a chance to prove he's the man to take us up to the prem. He's not a good enough manager to take us there and has been given one season too many, but we're still in a far healthier place than when he came in.

It is painful now though, it's almost got to the point where  I can't watch the games anymore. A load of dross and lack of desire. . 

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

25 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

That Hughes is interested in coming back and that Venkys are negotiating with him. As I have said, I hope that's true. I've not read the tweet that another poster mentioned on here. 

Doubt it, but hope you are right.