Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Southside Rover]

15 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

No he’s probably telling the truth there, file it with;

‘I don’t work on set pieces’ and ‘I don’t do tactics’

Question is, what does he do...other than the expletives 

[Southside Rover]

6 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

I can picture it now. His end of season meeting will be like a gender reveal party. There will be a big explosion as some giant balloons with our final league position float into the sky. Mowbray puts a positive spin on the fact we've stayed up.

With the shit he comes out with I'd expect he'll turn the league upside down and blag it that way. He might actually do better than 6th in that case 

[den]

What a different club we’d have been if they’d tapped into Williams and Finns experience and knowledge of the club. 
 

It’s the biggest mistake they made - after the decision to listen to Anderson.
 

 

[BigUts]

12 hours ago, den said:

What a different club we’d have been if they’d tapped into Williams and Finns experience and knowledge of the club. 
 

It’s the biggest mistake they made - after the decision to listen to Anderson.
 

 

Probably the biggest error in for the club in the last 30+ years

[Ulrich]

1 minute ago, BigUts said:

Probably the biggest error in for the club in the last 30+ years

Biggest mistake made in 146 years me thinks. Basically tossed away every advantage Jack gave us.

[Mattyblue]

21 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

Biggest mistake made in 146 years me thinks. Basically tossed away every advantage Jack gave us.

Almost every advantage... though they are trying their utmost to remove that last one too.

[Exiled_Rover]

22 hours ago, broadsword said:

I think we should all give ourselves a pat on the back for still having some sort of an interest in the club, despite all this sort of nonsense. 

 

Having said that, if I had a crystal ball and could see that in fifty years ' time we were still being run by venkys, then, as they say on dragon's den "I'm out". 

The only reason I still have an interest is the forlorn hope that these doss wankers will one day depart,and that there will be still be something to salvage. If that how gets taken away then for the sake of my own mental health, I have to walk. I don't think I could ever support another club, but I certainly can't support one where the soul and ambition has been eaten away by talentless parasites

Same.

I stepped away for a few years, but have taken a real interest again during the pandemic. 

Nothing has changed in that time - we're still a basket case club run by imbeciles with absentee owners. 

This is not the club I fell in love with. The soul has been removed. 

[oldjamfan1]

15 hours ago, Miller11 said:

Don’t be silly folks, it doesn’t matter how many season tickets we actually sell.

Waggott will be reporting back to Pune that our xST is 22,000 

Ha ha ha brilliant mate take a bow 😂😂😂

[broadsword]

35 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Same.

I stepped away for a few years, but have taken a real interest again during the pandemic. 

Nothing has changed in that time - we're still a basket case club run by imbeciles with absentee owners. 

This is not the club I fell in love with. The soul has been removed. 

"It is impossible that happiness and yearning for what is not present should ever be united"

That's yer man Epictetus there. It's impossible to care about the club right now without wishing that things were different. It's not about whether we're winning, what division we're in, how much money we have. It's none of that.

It's about knowing that yer man in the dug-out is busting his balls to get a win, the lads on the pitch are running themselves into the ground to keep the ball out of our net and put one in theirs. It's looking at the fixture list, because you really want to know who we're playing on your birthday, it's about hoping we do better than last year, will we get a cup run.

It's all that, and it's been taken from us, and at this juncture you really have to wonder if we'll ever get it back.

If you're asking me to feel the same with venky's running us, an absolute dickhead managing us, who thinks you can score goals passing it backwards with players out of position and money wasted on no-hopers, then I'm sorry but no.

[speeeeeeedie]

On 03/08/2019 at 12:28, Neal said:

No lessons learned. No possession football. No plan B. No Joe Rothwell. No defence. No defenders signed. No method. No Ryan Nyambe. No positivity. No progress. No idea. 

 

You're a nice bloke, you've done a good job but this is as far you will take us. Don't ruin your legacy, do the right thing and step aside. Charlton are relegation fodder so what does that make us? 

 

Go. 

 

On 03/08/2019 at 12:37, Norbert Rassragr said:

Seconded. Thanks for cleaning up after Coyle Tony, but it is clear you are not the right person to progress higher than about 14th in the table.

 

On 03/08/2019 at 12:41, Mattyblue said:

Get the sentiment. But be realistic, he’s well ensconced at the club. Close relationship with Waggott and the owners.

No chance he goes anytime soon, even if he oversaw a relegation.

Above are 3 of the first 4 posts in this thread from August 2019. No change in 18 months.

[OldEwoodBlue]

Mowbray's recent words, bullshit, lies are a fuck you to the fans.

Making 5 subs was a fuck you to the fans.

The owners saying he will be here until the end of the season regardless of results is a fuck you to the fans.

Mowbray keep talking about next season when he knows nobody wants him here is a fuck you to the fans.

Trying to flog part of Jack's legacy for a few houses under the radar was a fuck you to the fans.

If they actually let Mowbray start next season its a fuck you to the fans.

If they sack him and hire a new manager just before the season starts its a fuck you to the fans.

If (when) the stitch pitch doesn't happen its a fuck you to the fans.

If they put season tickets on sale in July, increase prices, guilt trip fans, all in light of the above its a massive fuck you to the fans.

Please give us your money you mugs so we can pay Daniel Ayala.

Erm...FUCK YOU.

Drain the swamp.

[JHRover]

Venkys would sooner see Ewood empty next season and be well out of pocket on ticket income and risk alienating thousands of those who remain than get rid of their mate who they like.

He's their man and nothing else matters. They trust him, like him and will ignore everything else.

The only good side to it is they won't turn around and force sales if their buddy is in the manager's seat as they won't want to show weakness or let him down. Unfortunately any player with ambition will look to get out of here if Mowbray remains.

[RevidgeBlue]

42 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

Above are 3 of the first 4 posts in this thread from August 2019. No change in 18 months.

I've thought that many a time.

Apart from "no possession football".

Now it's nothing but.

[tomphil]

They hired Coyle so yeah they'll have no qualms about keeping this one even if we finish 4th bottom.

Always said they'd still fund the club forever with hardly anybody in the ground. They aren't bothered as long as games are beamed into their kitchen. So they can continue playing real life football manager when they feel like it.  Probably betting amongst themselves on team selection and subs.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

29 minutes ago, JHRover said:

He's their man and nothing else matters. They trust him, like him and will ignore everything else.

 

...Even when the facts say he's a failure and has wasted Millions of their Money.

It's mind bending.

[Ewood Ace]

A thoroughly depressing read. His negligence is shinning through again with the comment, “I’m not interested whether we finish 17th or ninth, personally." That is a comment up there with any of the B.S. that Kean ever came out with.

Tony Mowbray on points targets, league tables & expectations | Lancashire Telegraph

[Tom]

We were never going up and never going down so it doesn’t matter apparently 

 

Why bother?

[arbitro]

Just now, Tom said:

We were never going up and never going down so it doesn’t matter apparently 

 

Why bother?

Does he realise how stupid he sounds? Development of players and the team? How many players have actually developed in his four years compared to how many have stagnated or regressed? And we are on course to finish marginally above the league position we were in when he joined us. He is beginning to sound like he has serious issues. 

[Mattyblue]

All about framing his discussions with the owners in the summer. Move it away from any talk of promotion and move it towards ‘development’ (though not sure who’s ‘developed’, so that’s another failing, surely?)

Totally transparent but it will probably do the job in his Pune meeting.

[Ewood Ace]

11 minutes ago, Tom said:

We were never going up and never going down so it doesn’t matter apparently 

 

Why bother?

On the plus side he has saved me £10. If the manager couldn't give a toss about where we finish in the table then I'm not spending my money to watch the uninspired dross that he puts out.

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Does he realise how stupid he sounds? Development of players and the team? How many players have actually developed in his four years compared to how many have stagnated or regressed? And we are on course to finish marginally above the league position we were in when he joined us. He is beginning to sound like he has serious issues. 

In a team where 4 loanees regularly start, Rothwell (and others) are regularly played out of position and strikers are asked to play out wide he's interested in the development of players?

Get stuffed.

[LeftWinger]

2018/19 - 35.3% (Win percentage)

2019/20 - 36.7%

2020/21 - 29.5% 

2020/21 (5th December onwards) - 18.5%

2020/21 (5th January onwards) - 16.7%

2020/21 (5th February onwards) - 6.7%

If he's developing and improving the squad - it must be the manager causing us to go backwards. 

Edited April 15, 2021 by LeftWinger

[rog of the rovers]

10 minutes ago, Tom said:

We were never going up and never going down so it doesn’t matter apparently 

 

Why bother?

Is this him saying..... either spend £100m and we'll get promoted, if not, then leave me alone to ''develop a culture'' and along the way we might finish 16th, we might finish 9th.

Its probably both brutally honest in what the Championship has and is becoming, yet at the same time, so self defeating and uninspiring.

Mowbray seems to be challenging the last vestiges of enthusiasm from a beleaguered fanbase. 

 

[LeftWinger]

Another stat - in the last 23 games, we've only won 1 game where we've had more possession than the opposition (we've won another 3 games in that time period, but had less possession than the opposition).

Possession football doesn't always work. 

[Richard Oakley]

4 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Another stat - in the last 23 games, we've only won 1 game where we've had more possession than the opposition (we've won another 3 games in that time period, but had less possession than the opposition).

Possession football doesn't always work. 

Congratulations, you've just proved possession based football is garbage. It's always been what you do with the possession you have that matters.