Tony Mowbray Discussion

[matt83]

26 minutes ago, Craigman said:

I notice since the season has ended, we have not heard from Mowbray, all details of new contracts etc are for the youngsters, and news is about these and today how the U23's etc have done. No comments direct from Mowbray.

Could he actually be on his way, only contracts renewed are the ones that we could force to be extended.

Fingers crossed, that he will be gone soon.

Don’t do it to yourself lad. Over the last 6 months I’ve convinced myself of various things signalling his end. Ultimately Mowbray is like the terminator. Just when you think he’s gone he comes back stronger than before.

He’ll be back soon harping on about his journey, giving a thesis on why it’s not 1995 therefore he’s doing well and how we can’t possibly compete with Peterborough with their momentum from league one.

oh and defenders are coming. Naturally 

Edited May 26, 2021 by matt83

[matt83]

3 hours ago, K-Hod said:

It seems like we have gone back to calling people out for saying something which hasn’t transpired, then people biting back, indicating they know something we don’t.

Can we not do that please?

As stated before, the information was posted in good faith, by a number of posters, so, at that time, there may have been something in it. Who knows what may have happened since, but either Venky’s are waiting for something else to happen before they pull the trigger, or they’ve changed their mind. With them, pretty much anything goes, so it’s probably not worth getting worked up about rumour and hearsay until anything actually happens....

I for one like hearing what people think they know from what they believe to be reliable sources. Whether it’s transfer rumours or changes of personnel even if it ultimately doesn’t pan out. I get 99% of my rovers news from this site. Whether that’s the equivalent of these young uns using Facebook/Twitter for their main source of news I don’t know but saves me going on to the club site or the propaganda rag the LET.

Hopefully one day rovers will be more of an open book where fans feel part of the club again.

One thing I have heard from what I believe to be a reliable source is rovers know what next years seasons ticket details will be price wise but are waiting until the right time. I told this person for what it’s worth unless they make them pretty much free or coincide them with Mowbray’s sacking the take up will be as poor as it’s ever been.

[islander200]

54 minutes ago, Craigman said:

I notice since the season has ended, we have not heard from Mowbray, all details of new contracts etc are for the youngsters, and news is about these and today how the U23's etc have done. No comments direct from Mowbray.

Could he actually be on his way, only contracts renewed are the ones that we could force to be extended.

Fingers crossed, that he will be gone soon.

Mowbray will be on holiday now will he not?

If he was going surely he would be gone by now

[Sparks Rover]

19 minutes ago, matt83 said:

 

I told this person for what it’s worth unless they make them pretty much free or coincide them with Mowbray’s sacking 

Holy Moly, if that happened, Mowbray gone, new manager in a couple of days before the tickets go on sale that would be like Friday night down Peps🥳

Mani and Rev giving it large on the dance floor 

[DE.]

Problem is, when there's no real pressure from the top it usually leads to mediocre performances from all below, unless you have an extremely driven manager and set of players. I think it's obvious we don't. Mowbray and the team being under no pressure, as performances seemingly have no bearing on job security, means mid-table at best and a relegation battle at worst - and let's face it, under this lot it wouldn't be much of a battle. 

[tomphil]

16 minutes ago, DE. said:

Problem is, when there's no real pressure from the top it usually leads to mediocre performances from all below, unless you have an extremely driven manager and set of players. I think it's obvious we don't. Mowbray and the team being under no pressure, as performances seemingly have no bearing on job security, means mid-table at best and a relegation battle at worst - and let's face it, under this lot it wouldn't be much of a battle. 

This has been a massive issue here all along even under previous Venky induced managers. 

Now we have one whose been here years and knows exactly how they work. That means they just sigh the cheques, say yay or nay to things via their messenger and will only analyze things once per year in mid summer.

Otherwise there's nothing to worry about and if they did remove you it would be out of the blue without prior warning.

So just shrug your shoulders and carry on basically doing what you want as long as you run it by the messenger. Even more convenient when you have your pal as a cushion as well.

Only reason he isn't saying owt is he'll be on a long awaited break like most of them will. He also knows people are sick of hearing his babble so time to kick back for a few weeks and plan next years pitch to the fans.

[Ulrich]

38 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Mowbray will be on holiday now will he not?

If he was going surely he would be gone by now

He's been on his hols since Jan, judging by results.

[chaddyrovers]

57 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Mowbray will be on holiday now will he not?

If he was going surely he would be gone by now

Maybe he is not. But back at home in Middlesbrough with his family

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, Craigman said:

I notice since the season has ended, we have not heard from Mowbray, all details of new contracts etc are for the youngsters, and news is about these and today how the U23's etc have done. No comments direct from Mowbray.

Could he actually be on his way, only contracts renewed are the ones that we could force to be extended.

Fingers crossed, that he will be gone soon.

There is always a post season lull and wall of silence, everyone on holiday and every single aspect of the club (season tickets, kits, signings, budgets) all left until the last possible moment. Dont torture yourself would be my advice.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Craigman said:

I notice since the season has ended, we have not heard from Mowbray, all details of new contracts etc are for the youngsters, and news is about these and today how the U23's etc have done. No comments direct from Mowbray.

Could he actually be on his way, only contracts renewed are the ones that we could force to be extended.

Fingers crossed, that he will be gone soon.

Its a good point you have made here, 

Only contracts thats have done 1st team wise are the extensions to 4 players to JRC, Nyambe, Rothwell and Johnson for a year plus Scott new contract to 2024.

We have seen plenty of new contracts for our 23's and 18's players 

[islander200]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its a good point you have made here, 

Only contracts thats have done 1st team wise are the extensions to 4 players to JRC, Nyambe, Rothwell and Johnson for a year plus Scott new contract to 2024.

We have seen plenty of new contracts for our 23's and 18's players 

Possibly because our senior players won't sign on for a few hundred quid a week 

[gumboots]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe he is not. But back at home in Middlesbrough with his family

He doesnt live in Middlesbrough. He lives in Marske. That's at the seaside so wherever he is he's on hols. 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Mani and Rev giving it large on the dance floor 

In my case that would definitely clear the place!

[tomphil]

7 minutes ago, gumboots said:

He doesnt live in Middlesbrough. He lives in Marske. That's at the seaside so wherever he is he's on hols. 

It's obviously not nice enough for him to want to put his feet up and stay there, sadly.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Possibly because our senior players won't sign on for a few hundred quid a week 

or Mowbray and Waggott aren't at the club(Ewood Park) currently

[gumboots]

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

It's obviously not nice enough for him to want to put his feet up and stay there, sadly.

By Teesside standards, its not bad

[Gone to seed]

2 hours ago, gumboots said:

By Teesside standards, its not bad

He is a slumdog millionaire alright..

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by WIR Second Coming

[Craigman]

5 hours ago, islander200 said:

Mowbray will be on holiday now will he not?

If he was going surely he would be gone by now

Maybe there is a clause in his contract whereby when he enters the last 12 months, a mutual termination can take place, at a certain cost?

[JHRover]

As predicted we are now in the 'dust settling' phase.

Go off on holiday, keep quiet, let the catastrophic run and performances of January to April drift into the distant past.

The local media are busy away doing their bidding by regurgitating interviews about which players and positions we need to address, how the summer provides an opportunity.

All this does is implant things in people's minds - makes them think it is business as usual, that there's no decision to be made, that anyone entertaining ideas of him going are barking up the wrong tree, that the only issues for discussion here are which players we let go and which we bring in, and subconsciously prepare them for full steam ahead with Mowbray come July.

Him and Waggott aren't daft. Keep quiet, say nothing, let the dust settle and then by July most people will have forgotten about last season and those who haven't will be shot down with the usual 'its in the past' 'whats done is done' 'we need to look forward, not backward' stuff.

Eventually desperation to get back to watching live football for many will trump any particular interest in who is running the show or how bad they are at it.

Not all mind, I'm sure season ticket sales will be evidence of what people really think of the shambles.

Edited May 26, 2021 by JHRover

[RevidgeBlue]

9 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Holy Moly, if that happened, Mowbray gone, new manager in a couple of days before the tickets go on sale that would be like Friday night down Peps🥳

Mani and Rev giving it large on the dance floor 

On a serious note the owners are so far missing a trick big style once again  here as it's difficult to imagine that any ST launch won't have the feel of a lead balloon if Mowbray, Waggott and Venus are still here.

And that's before considering whether or not Waggott will introduce another huge price hike.

Just imagine the difference in outlook and new found feeling of optimism were the Coventrio potted, for the sake of argument Hughes or Ainsworth were appointed, and season tickets went on sale a couple of days after that!

[1864roverite]

We can only dream of scenarios where Rovers can rebound on the positive effect of a major decision🤬

[tomphil]

Again a lot of it plays right into their hands now.

I'm not saying they don't want to win games or get as many people in a possible but to me they've waved a white flag now. They've sussed it out and know they aren't capable or driven enough to get a team in the upper end on their budget. They know that only that and low prices will get gates at Ewood up again.

So we are firmly in option B where they know the team might struggle and crowds will be low. So make the best of that situation it's far less hassle without expectation and they all still get paid the same. 

I expect some price rises, tiny crowds and possibly more of the ground roped off. More staff laid off and more cost cutting with ready made excuse after excuse again. Emphasis on reduced income, reduced budget and press trotting out '150 million debt' line time after time.

The debt that is only a debt when people seem to want it to be, otherwise it's 'investment' !!!

We really might as well have Bob Saxton in charge - i'm sure these lot would have them training down Pleasy again if they could hide behind it.

[Mattyblue]

And the majority of the remaining engaged support will lap up the dumbed down expectations. 

If TM states mere ‘survival is the aim’, ‘we can’t compete’, ‘parachutes’ etc etc, then that will also become gospel with the fans and a 20th placed finish and a new contract for 2022 onwards will be just nodded through and the recalibration of the image of Blackburn Rovers as a club lucky to just be in the second division is complete.

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Mattyblue

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

46 minutes ago, tomphil said:

We really might as well have Bob Saxton in charge 

Yep,feels like we are back to those days again.That is exactly the scenario that is going to be played out for our club now Mattyblue....run on a shoestring,cutbacks left right and centre,unab!e to compete with the top end of this Division.

Our highlight of the season will be a Friday night Cup tie against the mighty Southampton!

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[matt83]

11 hours ago, JHRover said:

I'm sure season ticket sales will be evidence of what people really think of the shambles.

Which will then be dismissed as nothing more than an effect of covid.