Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Hasta]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

But the vast majority of that squad was in the PL last season and are very physical side.  

I would say them and Fulham will be top 2 unless they have very poor run of form.

 

My point being they were clearly not good enough to be a premier League squad as they got relegated. They have premier League experience, but that doesn't mean they are premier League quality.

Im not disputing they aren't one of the two favourites, but we are competing directly with them at the same level on merit. We certainly should be comparing ourselves with them.

[Gone to seed]

4 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Why would the non playing staff be unhappy? Have there been paycuts? 

Have you ever worked in a place that is festering like a shithole, surrounded by rich kids who think you are there to shine their undersoles, and where the 'management' are deluded and dishonest to the point of criminal insanity?

Welcome to Ewood Park, a 21st Century museum featuring the ghosts of shitlists past...

Ahh, I get ye - it was irony, wasn't it? Doh!

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by WIR Second Coming

[Wood26]

Have we still not heard from the club about our abysmal transfer window?

I spoke to a guy who works for our club at a game this season and he said he told Waggot he wants Mowbray gone, and the response was we played good football start of season.

I don’t blame Mowbray for transfers, I heard it from Lowes agent we offered 1 million over 4 years for him. That’s not gonna be the managers doing. I agree with fans annoyed at team selections etc, but transfers is Waggot at co.

[Paul Mellelieu]

666 

[Gav]

8 hours ago, Wood26 said:

Have we still not heard from the club about our abysmal transfer window?

I spoke to a guy who works for our club at a game this season and he said he told Waggot he wants Mowbray gone, and the response was we played good football start of season.

I don’t blame Mowbray for transfers, I heard it from Lowes agent we offered 1 million over 4 years for him. That’s not gonna be the managers doing. I agree with fans annoyed at team selections etc, but transfers is Waggot at co.

Posters on this very site have been crying out for defenders for the past 4yrs+, finally Mowbray has addressed that issue and hopefully we are now well covered in that area with better quality that we've had for a while, time will tell of course.

We sold Armstrong yes, we already have 2 £5m strikers of the books, its time for them to step up and be counted, so far they are doing.

Even with 29 goals a season Armstrong we were a million miles away from the promotion places, the club is a mid-table, neglected and now skint, Championship club, we are in no hurry to find the next Armstrong, its been a decent window under the circumstances, mid table here we come. 

Venkys out - Nothing improves until they leave the club.

 

Edited September 3, 2021 by Gav

[TimmyJimmy]

Transfer window closes. Nyambe returns from a hamstring injury. Coincidence. I don't think so.

[Gav]

20 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Transfer window closes. Nyambe returns from a hamstring injury. Coincidence. I don't think so.

I read that his international manager confirmed the injury if that makes any difference.

Would the club and Namibia be in collusion?

[rigger]

11 minutes ago, Gav said:

I read that his international manager confirmed the injury if that makes any difference.

Would the club and Namibia be in collusion?

Has Nyambe travelled to Namibia ? If not how could their manager confirm the injury ?

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, Hasta said:

My point being they were clearly not good enough to be a premier League squad as they got relegated. They have premier League experience, but that doesn't mean they are premier League quality.

Im not disputing they aren't one of the two favourites, but we are competing directly with them at the same level on merit. We certainly should be comparing ourselves with them.

But thats was a squad that played in the PL last season.

Yes we are competing with them in the championship but they are class above at this stage. Hopefully in the next few years this can rectify 

10 hours ago, Wood26 said:

Have we still not heard from the club about our abysmal transfer window?

I spoke to a guy who works for our club at a game this season and he said he told Waggot he wants Mowbray gone, and the response was we played good football start of season.

I don’t blame Mowbray for transfers, I heard it from Lowes agent we offered 1 million over 4 years for him. That’s not gonna be the managers doing. I agree with fans annoyed at team selections etc, but transfers is Waggot at co.

Why would we during the international football week. Bayes, Sharpe and Crooke will be next at Ewood Park will be 9th September I believe. 

We might have got Lowe maybe if we offered the same fee as Bournemouth. is there any other names you heard we failed with on the last few days of the window? 

Do you blame Waggott, Venus and Pasha?

 

[Exiled in Toronto]

5 hours ago, TimmyJimmy said:

Transfer window closes. Nyambe returns from a hamstring injury. Coincidence. I don't think so.

Amazing it never occurred to Nyambe or his agent to inform the host of clubs eager to sign him that he wasn’t actually injured.

[Tom]

Rich Sharpe said he had reached out for comment from the club and manager about the window but hadn’t got a response.

Chaddy it’s not unreasonable to expect that the club be available for comment in the local paper outside of pre game press conferences 

[1864roverite]

1 minute ago, Tom said:

Rich Sharpe said he had reached out for comment from the club and manager about the window but hadn’t got a response.

Chaddy it’s not unreasonable to expect that the club be available for comment in the local paper outside of pre game press

I don’t accept that last point. The club has a duty to its support. Keeping them informed is keeping them interested you can see all over news now networks that most clubs are in the local press whereas rovers lot are missing in action like the set of twonks they have become

[gumboots]

Most clubs have soundbites at least on official Twitter feeds. You get little bits of club news, bits from interviews, pics of training

[Miller11]

Wouldn’t put it past Waggott to bring back clubcall and tell everyone it’s their duty as fans to ring a premium rate number to hear from anyone at the club.

[PeteJD13]

22 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Wouldn’t put it past Waggott to bring back clubcall and tell everyone it’s their duty as fans to ring a premium rate number to hear from anyone at the club.

Don't give him ideas Duncan!

[Tom]

3 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

I don’t accept that last point. The club has a duty to its support. Keeping them informed is keeping them interested you can see all over news now networks that most clubs are in the local press whereas rovers lot are missing in action like the set of twonks they have become

I think we are in agreement buddy, Chaddy had said why would we hear from them but I think it’s entirely reasonable to expect to have had some word on the back of the failure to land a striker 

Edited September 3, 2021 by Tom

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Tom said:

Rich Sharpe said he had reached out for comment from the club and manager about the window but hadn’t got a response.

Chaddy it’s not unreasonable to expect that the club be available for comment in the local paper outside of pre game press conferences 

All 3 local reporters(Crooke, Sharpe and Bayes) have reached out to the club and Mowbray. 

Its Waggott that need to answer the question why a striker wasn't bought in since He and Venus are in charge of players transfer negotiations not Mowbray at the club. I would also like to know why a striker from France was flied in and was at Brockhall but the deal wasn't done. Or the deal for Jamal Lowe wasn't done or why we kept chasing Obafemi when its look unlikely he would sign here for weeks. Mowbray isn't to blame for the lack of striker signing here on the last 3 days of the transfer window. 

Mowbray will be diplomatic with his answers in the pre game press conference whilst he will be clearly unhappy at the lack of striker signing and could feel like he has been hang out to dry by this lack of striker signing. 

 

2 hours ago, gumboots said:

Most clubs have soundbites at least on official Twitter feeds. You get little bits of club news, bits from interviews, pics of training

and you get soundbites from the club and small clips of interviews from managers or signings. 

But I don't think Waggott has ever given an interview to the Rovers TV or Ifollow. 

Edited September 3, 2021 by chaddyrovers

[1864roverite]

I disagree on the striker point and who is to blame for the failure to land one. Was it not Mowbray himself that suggested we had maybe 6 options ? Mowbray would be the one to outline vision style of play, what was expected and to outline the ambition of the club so therefore the blame lies at his feet if he failed to sell the club to a potential striker 

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, 1864roverite said:

I disagree on the striker point and who is to blame for the failure to land one. Was it not Mowbray himself that suggested we had maybe 6 options ? Mowbray would be the one to outline vision style of play, what was expected and to outline the ambition of the club so therefore the blame lies at his feet if he failed to sell the club to a potential striker 

is this reply to me? 

Mowbray did say we have 5 or 6 different options but Mowbray doesn't do the transfer or player contract negotiations but its Waggott and Venus. 

Did a player not sign cos of talks with Mowbray or did Club call them off? 

[1864roverite]

What I am highlighting Chaddy is that Mowbray is part of the blame for failing to land a striker. His job is to speak to the player personally it’s what the manager does I accept he doesn’t do the other negotiations (he might do of course) and he most certainly sells the club and it’s ambitions.

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, 1864roverite said:

What I am highlighting Chaddy is that Mowbray is part of the blame for failing to land a striker. His job is to speak to the player personally it’s what the manager does I accept he doesn’t do the other negotiations (he might do of course) and he most certainly sells the club and it’s ambitions.

and what happened if its was the contract negotiations were the problem was? 

We need to know were the problem was in secure the striker signing on permanent basis

[Paul Mellelieu]

The number of the Beast is Tom.

[1864roverite]

Chaddy the first thing about the transfer isn’t the money, length of contract or signing on fee it’s the particular clubs own ambition, what are the hopes and how does that player fit in to those plans. That is the managers job, to sell it. The rest is down to the legals and agents.

Edited September 3, 2021 by 1864roverite

[JacknOry]

You cant just absolve TM from blame because you assume he has nothing to do with the negotiations. If that were the case, he could just suggest Messi and Ronaldo and leave it to the other two stooges.

All of them were responsible for bringing in players.

[gumboots]

19 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Chaddy the first thing about the transfer isn’t the money, length of contract or signing on fee it’s the particular clubs own ambition, what are the hopes and how does that player fit in to those plans. That is the managers job, to sell it. The rest is down to the legal sand agents.

Can you have illegal sand?