Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Gav]

7 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Well I certainly do to be fair but I’ve never made grand statements about moving aside if I became a burden on my employers. 

To be fair he stood aside at Coventry I believe matt, not many modern day managers do that, they usually wait for the pay off.

[tomphil]

Unless he walked away without pay there's nothing noble about it.  Mutual agreement means exactly that and usually some sort of settlement.

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, Gav said:

To be fair he stood aside at Coventry I believe matt, not many modern day managers do that, they usually wait for the pay off.

He doesn't do what is right for the club though Gav and many examples of this.

Wasting money by giving out extensions to players who didn't play a minute during first covid lockdown.

Last season he would have known the situation regarding the soon to be out of contract players yet instead of giving some our younger players valuable experience he kept playing the players who wouldn't be here next season to fix them up with other clubs 

Those are just two

[TheRoversReturn]

18 hours ago, DE. said:

Good effort. Reminds me of the Kean Out days when it was appearing everywhere.

...and yet the Venky's STILL didn't sack him!!!

[rigger]

7 minutes ago, Gav said:

To be fair he stood aside at Coventry I believe matt, not many modern day managers do that, they usually wait for the pay off.

Is that not what he is doing to the Rovers now. I couldn't care less what he did at Coventry.

[Blue blood]

48 minutes ago, Gav said:

Why do you believe Mowbray to be a liar with no morals? 

I believe him to be past his sell by date, working for mad owners, but I think he’s a decent guy.

Well the fans comparing us to the 95 and comparing them to the Premier League winning team is one whopper that springs to mind. 

As is his moans about not having experience when he just signs kids (not just from this season) or complaining not having enough defenders when he stacked up midfielders and ignored the defence. Maybe not outright lies but these are certainly distortions of the truth, lies by omission and generally not very honest assessments. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

46 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

Well the fans comparing us to the 95 and comparing them to the Premier League winning team is one whopper that springs to mind. 

As is his moans about not having experience when he just signs kids (not just from this season) or complaining not having enough defenders when he stacked up midfielders and ignored the defence. Maybe not outright lies but these are certainly distortions of the truth, lies by omission and generally not very honest assessments. 

I don't understand the lie in the first sentence, is that not just something that annoyed people?

As for the rest, tenuous links at best to labelling him a "lier".  I mean "just signs kids" , come on. He was slated for signing Downing , Ayala (before this season) and by some for giving Bradley Johnson a new deal. 

Saying we don't have enough defenders wasn't a lie, does come back to him though, but again, not a lie. 

 

[Blue blood]

4 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I don't understand the lie in the first sentence, is that not just something that annoyed people?

As for the rest, tenuous links at best to labelling him a "lier".  I mean "just signs kids" , come on. He was slated for signing Downing , Ayala (before this season) and by some for giving Bradley Johnson a new deal. 

Saying we don't have enough defenders wasn't a lie, does come back to him though, but again, not a lie. 

 

No one, literally not one fan, has compared us to or had current expectations for us influenced by winning the Premier League. It was an utter whopper to suggest that fans were comparing the current situation to then, it's simply not true. 

As for the rest, as I said. If not outright lies they are dishonest and disingenuous as they don't share the context of how these came about or the fact, as you say, that they are all problems of his own making. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

7 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

No one, literally not one fan, has compared us to or had current expectations for us influenced by winning the Premier League. It was an utter whopper to suggest that fans were comparing the current situation to then, it's simply not true. 

As for the rest, as I said. If not outright lies they are dishonest and disingenuous as they don't share the context of how these came about or the fact, as you say, that they are all problems of his own making. 

I suppose some fans think we should be in the PL (me included) but we don't have any divine right to that, unfortunately. 

[Blue blood]

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I suppose some fans think we should be in the PL (me included) but we don't have any divine right to that, unfortunately. 

Indeed but no one was comparing us to the title winning team. That's a very big difference from thinking we should be premier league. 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

2 hours ago, Gav said:

The worst run in our history? Don’t talk daft….

2 wins in 17 is the worst in my lifetime 

[AllRoverAsia]

31 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

No one, literally not one fan, has compared us to or had current expectations for us influenced by winning the Premier League. It was an utter whopper to suggest that fans were comparing the current situation to then, it's simply not true. 

As for the rest, as I said. If not outright lies they are dishonest and disingenuous as they don't share the context of how these came about or the fact, as you say, that they are all problems of his own making. 

Some time ago I bookmarked Mowbray in the LT etc etc telling what were initially obvious or turned out to be porkies.

I gave up, there were just too many and they needed indexing, which was a step too far.

I don't comment much on him these days. There is feck all I can do and I just want him gone and his cronies.

FOV.

[lraC]

One thing that perhaps needed pointing out when Mowbray defended himself by saying the current team is not like the team in 1995 is perhaps that neither is he at the standard he was when he managed Boro and WBA.

[Gav]

27 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

2 wins in 17 is the worst in my lifetime 

How about 10th in the Premiership to League 1 in 5 easy steps under these owners.

I’ll assume that is actually the worst run in your lifetime CNC?

[LDRover]

7 hours ago, toogs said:

This deserved more likes

The sadness never ends toogs...

[DE.]

Liar is maybe a bit strong but he's certainly been economical with the truth and comes out with a lot of BS, eg. "I don't look at the league table". Yeah, sure. I don't think he was necessarily lying when he said "defenders are coming" - I'm sure at the time he believed that - but when they didn't turn up he just hand waved it away and didn't give any real explanation as to why it didn't happen. My biggest problem with Mowbray isn't lying, it's the complete lack of accountability for everything. It would be nice for him to just hold his hands up every so often and say "yeah, I got that one wrong, sorry". 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

2 hours ago, Gav said:

How about 10th in the Premiership to League 1 in 5 easy steps under these owners.

I’ll assume that is actually the worst run in your lifetime CNC?

I'm totally with you on the owners being the main protagonists in our horror novel Gav, this shit show rests with them. Mowbray is absolutely a symptom of the disease though and can get in the bin with them. 

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[matt83]

Patronising jibber jabber. 

[RoversClitheroe]

18 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Chaddy please don't tell me you've fallen for this shit?

He must have been told he was being a prick ignoring the Rovers fans at Blackpool and they had to release this so people would fall for his shit 

[arbitro]

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Chaddy please don't tell me you've fallen for this shit?

He must have been told he was being a prick ignoring the Rovers fans at Blackpool and they had to release this so people would fall for his shit 

Absolutely correct. Somebody at Ewood has seen some comments on social media about Mowbray eulogising about the Blackpool fan's and this is just damage limitation. I wonder if he said what he did because the fans had the temerity to shout 'Mowbray sort it out '.

[RevidgeBlue]

51 minutes ago, arbitro said:

 I wonder if he said what he did because the fans had the temerity to shout 'Mowbray sort it out '.

Those were my thoughts exactly at the time, and I also expect he's been told to say something.

If he can get that prickly about chants so tame, he won't react well to some serious gip.

Ramp it up lads and lasses!

[arbitro]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Those were my thoughts exactly at the time, and I also expect he's been told to say something.

If he can get that prickly about chants so tame, he won't react well to some serious gip.

Ramp it up lads and lasses!

Agreed. I don't believe he is anywhere near as thick skinned he would like us to believe. I recall him exonerating himself early from the potential sale of Brockhall by saying 'it's above my pay grade'. 

[RevidgeBlue]

On 07/10/2021 at 13:09, Gav said:

The worst run in our history? Don’t talk daft….

3rd worst run in our history if you're going to be pedantic about it .....

[roversfan99]

Which would also make the 4 wins on the bounce the best run in our history, easy to focus on specific runs. We finished 15th over the course of the season, that is what matters and that wasnt good enough.

Again, this need to make him out as this ignorant "prick" to further tarnish him, there is more than enough regarding last season to justifiably want a change of manager. No need to become petty and nasty.

Edited October 9, 2021 by roversfan99