Tony Mowbray Discussion

[broadsword]

23 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I think it's more psychological.   Manager doesn't give a toss, players don't give a toss....its a disease going through the squad.

I doubt our lads are particularly fit, but yeah, with Toni Moroni in charge, why should they even care? 

[RoverDom]

Any half decent owner / ceo would be pouncing on the now available Steve Bruce.

 

This latest run has proved that this season is no different. We were in the play offs for more than 1 game so I had stupidly started to believe but now I've given my head a shake and come full circle to Tony out, no matter what run of form we are on, if a good manager comes up, swap immediately. 

[Dolly blue]

1 hour ago, blondie said:

Another reference to fitness levels and intensity of training.

When is the intensity of training going to come to fruition?

We have, as last season,not  seen a performance where our fitness levels in a match seem superior to the opposition.

…I agree blonde….our physical fitness levels are poor at best …..but my main concern is that ….we are mentally unfit.
We’re afraid , we’re weak …our lads , on the pitch , are younger versions of Mowbray . ….they have no heart for the battle.

Would he inspire you to fight ?

[rigger]

19 minutes ago, Dolly blue said:

…I agree blonde….our physical fitness levels are poor at best …..but my main concern is that ….we are mentally unfit.
We’re afraid , we’re weak …our lads , on the pitch , are younger versions of Mowbray . ….they have no heart for the battle.

Would he inspire you to fight ?

One of the fittest most tenacious players we have, Sam Burns. What a good idea to loan him out, two levels (at least) below his ability. He would be in my team before Clarkson, even in Clarksons favoured position, never mind in Burns's favoured position. 

[Silas]

29 minutes ago, Dolly blue said:

We’re afraid , we’re weak …our lads , on the pitch , are younger versions of Mowbray . ….they have no heart for the battle.

Certainly feels that way. 

I can't picture a team with fight in it since the trend was set with the pathetic surrenders to Spurs & Wigan when we got relegated. 

In fact it feels like the last battling team had Robbie Savage in it ffs. But maybe my memory is being harsh. 

[arbitro]

32 minutes ago, Silas said:

Certainly feels that way. 

I can't picture a team with fight in it since the trend was set with the pathetic surrenders to Spurs & Wigan when we got relegated. 

In fact it feels like the last battling team had Robbie Savage in it ffs. But maybe my memory is being harsh. 

I think they would fight for the right manager. A few weeks ago Forest fan's were saying the same kind of things about their players and they were also hugely critical of Hughton. A change of manager later and these same players look like they would run through brick walls for Steve Cooper and are getting result. Two goals in stoppage time last night won them the game.

I heard someone at the ground say last night that he had been talking to the parents of one of our players. The word was that the players are losing faith rapidly in Mowbray. I wasn't privy to the conversation so take that whichever way you want.

[RV Blue]

He would have been sacked a long, long time ago if he were going to be sacked. The only way he’s leaving is at the expiry of his contract.

[PeteJD13]

6 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

He would have been sacked a long, long time ago if he were going to be sacked. The only way he’s leaving is at the expiry of his contract.

i think one difference this season over the last one is fans are back, so once Ewood starts jeering he'll walk

[islander200]

2 hours ago, blondie said:

Filling his head at all the things to be worried about Reading, rather than how to beat them.

Yeah hopefully Reading don't play 3 at the back 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

The sad matter of fact is that getting rid of the gurning one is not even on the radar of our so called owners.

His mates the CEO....stitched up good and proper,nice and cosey jobs for 't lads.

A fan base mute and unwilling to rock the Boat at Ewood, the whole situation is crap,makes my piss boil.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, PeteJD13 said:

i think one difference this season over the last one is fans are back, so once Ewood starts jeering he'll walk

When Ewood starts jeering?🤐

Edited October 20, 2021 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

44 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I think they would fight for the right manager. A few weeks ago Forest fan's were saying the same kind of things about their players and they were also hugely critical of Hughton. A change of manager later and these same players look like they would run through brick walls for Steve Cooper and are getting result. Two goals in stoppage time last night won them the game.

I heard someone at the ground say last night that he had been talking to the parents of one of our players. The word was that the players are losing faith rapidly in Mowbray. I wasn't privy to the conversation so take that whichever way you want.

If that remark is true what amazes me is the players hadn’t lost faith in him years ago.

[RV Blue]

27 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If that remark is true what amazes me is the players hadn’t lost faith in him years ago.

Mowbray keeps the influential players on side and picks on the less influential ones, always has. He won’t lose the dressing room as those with an influence in the dressing room like him. Very similar to Bowyer.

[chaddyrovers]

Rovers owners have to make a managerial change asap. We need a new direction under a new manager/head coach with fresh ideas, tactical aware and able to tighten up our defence. Some good choices out there

3 hours ago, RoverDom said:

Any half decent owner / ceo would be pouncing on the now available Steve Bruce.

From Bruce interview in the Telegraph says he is probably to retire from football after the abuse he and his family have suffered there. Tho even their bets player Saint Maximin has said some brilliant comments about him and his management of him

https://twitter.com/asaintmaximin/status/1450793089971494914?s=20

 

2 hours ago, PeteJD13 said:

i think one difference this season over the last one is fans are back, so once Ewood starts jeering he'll walk

I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if they turned this weekend if we don't perform against Reading. I always thought he was close to walking once before when we won 3-2 against Barnsley but his manner on the touchline was like a man ready to walk. It was Dack and Rothwell who saved him that day

1 hour ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

His mates the CEO....stitched up good and proper,nice and cosey jobs for 't lads.

Not sure him and Waggott are even close anymore or mates anymore. 

[RoverDom]

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

From Bruce interview in the Telegraph says he is probably to retire from football after the abuse he and his family have suffered there.

Such a shame that! Really dislike Newcastle fans. What kind of abuse was he getting do you know? 

[matt83]

13 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Such a shame that! Really dislike Newcastle fans. What kind of abuse was he getting do you know? 

Called him a tactically inept cabbage head.

Still would be a vast improvement over our own ‘tactically inept cabbage head’.

 

im sure the 8 million pay off softened the blow whatever was said. In fact if the price of having 8 million was someone following me around calling me a cabbage head id take it. 

Edited October 20, 2021 by matt83

[RoversClitheroe]

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Not sure him and Waggott are even close anymore or mates anymore. 

Because of what 1 poster said? I genuinely believe it's wide of the mark.

For starters he's backed him in the most recent fan forum saying he's doing a fantastic job.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

Such a shame that! Really dislike Newcastle fans. What kind of abuse was he getting do you know? 

 

 

37 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Because of what 1 poster said? I genuinely believe it's wide of the mark.

For starters he's backed him in the most recent fan forum saying he's doing a fantastic job.

It's was more than one posters if you look back properly. 

I wouldn't expect him to do anything at fans meeting 

[davulsukur]

18 hours ago, tomphil said:

Most saw the opening tactics and said that.

Yet we nearly got a point but in all honesty what happened was always the more likely to happen.

 

[JHRover]

At a normal club the CEO is in place on merit and is judged by the owners on performance, including results and team performance.

Naturally therefore the CEO would keep a close eye on things and ensure that the manager was performing to a particular standard and if targets were being missed or performances not good enough then consideration would be given to making a change, either brought about by the CEO or one instructed by the owners and carried out by the CEO.

In circumstances where the players were fed up, disillusioned, not hitting their potential or looking for moves away then the manager would be on borrowed time. 

In circumstances where large swathes of the fanbase were fed up, disillusioned, attendances plummeting or people considering not renewing then the manager would be on borrowed time.

Flip all that on its head at Venky Rovers.

Mowbray is bulletproof because the cretins in Pune like him. He has consolidated his position by appointing his chum to the position of CEO who thinks he is god's gift and will never attempt to remove him or be able to.

So instead we sit back and watch as our players' heads drop, inevitably look to move elsewhere, attendances collapse and people get completely fed up. But hey, at least Tony gets to carry on. That's the most important thing eh?

[booth]

3 hours ago, matt83 said:

Called him a tactically inept cabbage head.

Still would be a vast improvement over our own ‘tactically inept cabbage head’.

Ours sounds like a pie but with less charisma, or intelligence.

[tomphil]

Has there ever been a manager in the history of the championship who is happy so often to lose 1-0  ?

[simongarnerisgod]

19 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Has there ever been a manager in the history of the championship who is happy so often to lose 1-0  ?

he aint bothered because there is no consequence for ineptness at ewood these days,come the end of the season,if he decides he`s leaving,i expect a farewell to tony day at the last home match🙂,it would be typical,6 seasons of nothingness and  they`ll try to claim he rescued the club from oblivion

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

I believe the tide is turning on social media. In fairness I don't do Facebook, but on Instagram there are more and more comments of "Mowbray out" and "I'll buy a ticket one Mowbray goes" etc than I've ever seen before. I know it matters not a fuck on whether he'll actually leave, but it's heartening to see more and more fans who can see him for what he is. 

[tomphil]

10 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he aint bothered because there is no consequence for ineptness at ewood these days,come the end of the season,if he decides he`s leaving,i expect a farewell to tony day at the last home match🙂,it would be typical,6 seasons of nothingness and  they`ll try to claim he rescued the club from oblivion

It won't get 26k on but i'd happily pay 35 notes for a ticket if it's farewell !