Tony Mowbray Discussion

[47er]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I never said that it is proof of long term success under Mowbray or even justification that he is the man to take us forward, but for the last 4 games in isolation he deserves plenty of credit.

Why should we take a 4 game run "in isolation" I've already said why I don't!

Make it 20 and I'll definitely be interested!

[Mashed Potatoes]

9 hours ago, 47er said:

Why should we take a 4 game run "in isolation" I've already said why I don't!

Make it 20 and I'll definitely be interested!

But if we lost 4 games in a row - imagine what people would be saying then.

[47er]

2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

But if we lost 4 games in a row - imagine what people would be saying then.

It would be pretty much like it was on that awful run last season I imagine.

And you'd be defending him.

Lets be straight, all those demands for his sacking from posters on here, including me, were not about any mini-run of bad results.

[K-Hod]

35 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

But if we lost 4 games in a row - imagine what people would be saying then.

They probably wouldn’t be happy, because the team they support kept losing. Imagine that...

[Bigdoggsteel]

15 hours ago, Amo said:

I don’t think the implication was that he literally wanted to plod along in mid table, just that he had grown complacent and too stuck in his ways to take the club forward. 

No, it was 100% said that he literally wanted to plod along because doing anymore would raise expectations and therefore make him more likely to be sacked if it went belly up. 

Which was a silly thing to say as he has actually stated he wants to get in the play-offs! 

[DE.]

13 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

No, it was 100% said that he literally wanted to plod along because doing anymore would raise expectations and therefore make him more likely to be sacked if it went belly up. 

Which was a silly thing to say as he has actually stated he wants to get in the play-offs! 

I can remember people saying similar things about Bowyer tbf, although I don't think there's any truth in either scenario.

[Bigdoggsteel]

Just now, DE. said:

I can remember people saying similar things about Bowyer tbf, although I don't think there's any truth in either scenario.

No, obviously there isn't. It's crazy stuff...

[DE.]

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

No, obviously there isn't. It's crazy stuff...

Owen Coyle has essentially built an entire career around one lucky promotion, I think the benefits to a manager's reputation outweigh any hypothetical negatives tbh.

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, DE. said:

Owen Coyle has essentially built an entire career around one lucky promotion, I think the benefits to a manager's reputation outweigh any hypothetical negatives tbh.

Indeed. I think people were implying that if Mowbray got us to the play-offs, but lost, Venkys might sack him as they are clueless. I mean ,as you say, absolutely no negatives for the manager who gets promoted, at worst it's a new contract and a pay off when they are inevitably sacked whilst struggling in the Premier league.   

[DE.]

8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Indeed. I think people were implying that if Mowbray got us to the play-offs, but lost, Venkys might sack him as they are clueless.

Well it's possible, but evidence suggests they're more likely to sack him if we're mid-table as that's where we were when Bowyer was given the boot. I'm sure Mowbray knows as well as the rest of us that guessing our owners future actions is a pointless exercise. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

4 hours ago, K-Hod said:

They probably wouldn’t be happy, because the team they support kept losing. Imagine that...

Glad to hear that like me you are really happy with the way things are going

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Indeed. I think people were implying that if Mowbray got us to the play-offs, but lost, Venkys might sack him as they are clueless. I mean ,as you say, absolutely no negatives for the manager who gets promoted, at worst it's a new contract and a pay off when they are inevitably sacked whilst struggling in the Premier league.   

I wouldn't want him sacked if we got in the play offs and lost however painful it might be to me just getting there would be an outstanding effort. 

Don't get me wrong i wouldn't want them doffing him an extra 5 years on the back of it either but back in the day Don Mackay had us in there 3 seasons on the bounce.  I don't think anyone wanted him potting then he was our guiding light.

Edited December 10, 2019 by tomphil

[Amo]

3 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

No, it was 100% said that he literally wanted to plod along because doing anymore would raise expectations and therefore make him more likely to be sacked if it went belly up. 

Which was a silly thing to say as he has actually stated he wants to get in the play-offs! 

People say one thing and do another? Fancy that.

[Bigdoggsteel]

Just now, Amo said:

People say one thing and do another? Fancy that.

Sorry, you have lost me. Nice pic though 

[Mattyblue]

Amazing when we ended up in the play offs for the third time in 4 seasons in 1992 and we were known as a ‘perennial Play off outfit’ we wouldn’t be in them again as of 2020 (getting on for 30 years now).

[booth]

Right Venky's what have you done with the real Tony?!

Not that I'm complaining, keep him in his box I like t'other Tony.

 

[K-Hod]

38 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Glad to hear that like me you are really happy with the way things are going

Of course I’m happy, we’ve just won four in a row....

[tomphil]

Just now, booth said:

Right Venky's what have you done with the real Tony?!

Not that I'm complaining, keep him in his box I like t'other Tony.

 

I think he's been threatened or even pranged with the old electronic cattle prod...

Long may it continue.

[Amo]

7 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Sorry, you have lost me. Nice pic though 

People are contradictory. They say one thing and do another.

[Bigdoggsteel]

20 minutes ago, Amo said:

People are contradictory. They say one thing and do another.

Ya,I got that,but who did you mean?

[JHRover]

35 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Amazing when we ended up in the play offs for the third time in 4 seasons in 1992 and we were known as a ‘perennial Play off outfit’ we wouldn’t be in them again as of 2020 (getting on for 30 years now).

Hang on, I thought we were perennial struggling little Blackburn before Jack Walker came along?

[speeeeeeedie]

18 hours ago, JoeH said:

Okay... just a video mate.

I thought that it was interesting.

Not living locally I miss out on stories that are out there but don't make it to press. There were mentions on here about Coyle's Krispy Kreme fascination, now I have another source.

I thought it was funny that Coyle always played 5-a-side because he wanted to score and went bananas if he didn't get decent service. No wonder he's a failure. Getting Burnley up was pure luck.

I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole with those podcasts. I watched a bit of Matt Kilgallon's. He said that 2014-15 Rovers team he played in under Bowyer should have been promoted as the squad was talented enough. I also looked up Chris Brown's Wikipedia. He stole a living from football. A striker with almost 400 appearances and less than 70 goals, a paintball incident, and a sex tape. He seems like he's grown up though. 

[Amo]

8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Ya,I got that,but who did you mean?

Mowbray. Just because he talks up our playoff hopes doesn't mean he isn't going to phone it in.

Just now, speeeeeeedie said:

I also looked up Chris Brown's Wikipedia. He stole a living from football. A striker with almost 400 appearances and less than 70 goals, a paintball incident, and a sex tape. He seems like he's grown up though. 

He was a poor man's Kuqi. Let that sink in.

[Mattyblue]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Hang on, I thought we were perennial struggling little Blackburn before Jack Walker came along?

A narrative spun by bitter Dingles and Nob Enders who spent the 80s trying to stay out of non league.

Unfortunately lapped up by a lot of own gullible fans.

[Bigdoggsteel]

Just now, Amo said:

Mowbray. Just because he talks up our playoff hopes doesn't mean he isn't going to phone it in.

Disagree. Whatever about previous results, I wouldn't accuse him of not working hard.