Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Blue blood]

For all those saying we won't get better there's an article on BBC football (I can't copy the link) saying Warnock is tempted by one last job to get over the 1500 league games milestone. 

But of course there's no one better out there than TM. 

As for where the goals will come from, funny TM isn't talking about Gally and Bereton. 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

This comment makes me just think "eugh".

“We’ll keep rolling and see if we can get the right balance. We’re in there with all the other 14, 15 or 16 teams that believe they can get into the play-offs if they can put a run together.”

Even when he does find the right balance, he won't stick with it. 

The worst thing is, I think this would be a great season to break into the play-offs. A lot of inconsistent teams.

This. He always goes back to his "Footballing Philosophy" of being a possession based, passing team. Even if we win 4 on the bounce playing more direct and on the counter

[davulsukur]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51100089

 

Probably been mentioned but Warnock wants one last challenge.

[K-Hod]

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51100089

 

Probably been mentioned but Warnock wants one last challenge.

As much as I’d love it if we did hire him, I simply can’t see it, after the hash we made of it last time when we ultimately appointed Coyle.

[davulsukur]

8 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

As much as I’d love it if we did hire him, I simply can’t see it, after the hash we made of it last time when we ultimately appointed Coyle.

Yer he won't be coming here. There have been a few times where people have claimed he has retired when discussing a Mowbray replacement. Just putting the link up as he clearly wants to manage again and would be an upgrade on Mowbray.

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, arbitro said:

 Mowbray recommended Waggott.

 

you know for sure? just another guess? 

3 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Have the various CEOs actually had the powers and authority that would normally be associated with that position ? The impression I get is that these people are really just administrators.

I would guess very few CEO in Football now have permission to sack the manager without authorisation from the owner of the club

[oldjamfan1]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would guess very few CEO in Football now have permission to sack the manager without authorisation from the owner of the club

If I was the CEO I would expect to hold the power to hire and fire. I should think the opposite of what you say is true Chaddy. That's partly why they are employed - to be the owner's guardian of the club.

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

you know for sure? just another guess? 

I would guess very few CEO in Football now have permission to sack the manager without authorisation from the owner of the club

It's an educated guess. Just like you are guessing with your assumption but if you join the dots my guess holds more water than yours.

I don't for one second think you will see if the same way as me though.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

If I was the CEO I would expect to hold the power to hire and fire. I should think the opposite of what you say is true Chaddy. That's partly why they are employed - to be the owner's guardian of the club.

If I was owner of any football club it would be my decision to whether hire or fire the manager. 

I watched the class of 92 series on Sky Sports and the decisions on the manager choice/future was with the owners and the sporting director of Salford City club. Then I have watched the Sunderland TV Documentary series where it was Sunderland CEO Martin Bain choice on the manager hiring and firing. 

9 minutes ago, arbitro said:

It's an educated guess. Just like you are guessing with your assumption but if you join the dots my guess holds more water than yours.

I don't for one second think you will see if the same way as me though.

Fair enough. I have used both Mowbray and Waggott comments on the situation for my viewpoint 

 

[JacknOry]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

If I was owner of any football club it would be my decision to whether hire or fire the manager. 

I watched the class of 92 series on Sky Sports and the decisions on the manager choice/future was with the owners and the sporting director of Salford City club. Then I have watched the Sunderland TV Documentary series where it was Sunderland CEO Martin Bain choice on the manager hiring and firing. 

Fair enough. I have used both Mowbray and Waggott comments on the situation for my viewpoint 

 

You would be the dream owner for a manager - as you would never fire them.

Edited January 14, 2020 by JacknOry

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

You would be the dream owner for a manager - as you would never fire them.

sadly not. 

I would be very thoughtful and careful as owner. 

[JacknOry]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

sadly not. 

I would be very thoughtful and careful as owner. 

Would you fire TM today?

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, JacknOry said:

Would you fire TM today?

no I wouldnt

[JacknOry]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

no I wouldnt

Exactly my point. 

Your manager has just shoveled 12 million of your money into a hole you will never get it back from. Your club is now on the cusp of FFP difficulties - yet you would still not fire him. You have more money than sense Chaddy.

Edited January 14, 2020 by JacknOry

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, JacknOry said:

Exactly my point. 

why? cos I don't agree with your view of sacking a manager 

[JacknOry]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

why? cos I don't agree with your view of sacking a manager 

See my edit above to answer that question. 

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

 

Your manager has just shoveled 12 million of your money into a hole you will never get it back from. Your club is now on the cusp of FFP difficulties - yet you would still not fire him. You have more money than sense Chaddy.

well it would be my money funding the club. 

 

[Amo]

47 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

You would be the dream owner for a manager - as you would never fire them.

Yes, he would.

Then just as they're leaving the car park, he'd open the window and call them back. 

[Mercer]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

no I wouldnt

What is your justification for not firing Mowbray ?

Do you trust Mowbray in the transfer market ?

 

[Dreams of 1995]

Jesus Christ, talk about setting a man up to fail....

We all know Chaddy wouldn’t fire Mowbray and he’s explained why he wouldn’t a billion times. For once can the mob leave him out of it ?

[47er]

2 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Jesus Christ, talk about setting a man up to fail....

We all know Chaddy wouldn’t fire Mowbray and he’s explained why he wouldn’t a billion times. For once can the mob leave him out of it ?

"the mob"  LOL!!

[Ossydave]

8 hours ago, davulsukur said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51100089

 

Probably been mentioned but Warnock wants one last challenge.

He's basically said he wants a bit of something to do until his house in Cornwall is ready ?

Sorry but fuck that, not interested in us being a little gap filler for someone to take them through till retirement. 

[tomphil]

Said it a dozen times but the best hope is to rumble on this season. Finish similar to last then just hope he realises he's taken us as far as he can and decides to remove himself from what will eventually be a shit storm next season if things start badly.

Mutual consent, shake hands and thanks for the hard work.

[Dreams of 1995]

1 hour ago, 47er said:

"the mob"  LOL!!

What else do you call the same handful of people who ask him the same question topic after topic? 
 

no he wouldn’t sack Mowbray, yes he trusts Mowbray in the transfer window, no he doesn’t think there’s a better manager out there for us. 
 

We’ve all read it before and it’s getting annoying seeing the same questions posed to him to get the same answers back all the time. Clearly you will have to agree to disagree. 

[47er]

15 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

What else do you call the same handful of people who ask him the same question topic after topic? 
 

no he wouldn’t sack Mowbray, yes he trusts Mowbray in the transfer window, no he doesn’t think there’s a better manager out there for us. 
 

We’ve all read it before and it’s getting annoying seeing the same questions posed to him to get the same answers back all the time. Clearly you will have to agree to disagree. 

The "answers" are usually evasive, repetitive, deflecting and largely irrelevant, hence people ask him the same questions because they never got an answer in the first place!

However, no-one is compelling you to read anything, so just calmly scroll down and you'll be free of annoyance.   Easy eh?